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A question for my fellow Britons.

akebono62

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Report this Oct. 16 2009, 11:57 pm

Quote (CornishMonkey @ Oct. 16 2009, 4:53 pm)
USS Cook

USS Newton

USS Brunel

USS Margaret Thatcher

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Report this Oct. 17 2009, 12:40 am

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There has to be a USS Beatles!!!

The Beatles have revolutionized music and therefore deserve their own Starship!

They could paint it yellow!

We all live in a yellow starship......

:D

And have Ringo as the Captain ?:laugh:



Just not the above Ringo, I hope.

I looove "Tombstone!" What a great movie.

CornishMonkey

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Report this Oct. 19 2009, 4:51 am

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Oct. 19 2009, 8:46 am)
Here's a question...

Are you (as a Brit) allowed to use Scottish/Welsh/Irish place names/persons for a British themed ship?

Great Britain consists the nations England, Scotland and Wales. Britain and Northern Ireland make up the United Kingdom. The Republic of Ireland is an independent country. So, the answer is yes.

CornishMonkey

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Report this Oct. 19 2009, 5:16 am

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Quote (CornishMonkey @ Oct. 19 2009, 4:51 am)
Quote (ZeroArmour @ Oct. 19 2009, 8:46 am)
Here's a question...

Are you (as a Brit) allowed to use Scottish/Welsh/Irish place names/persons for a British themed ship?

Great Britain consists the nations England, Scotland and Wales. Britain and Northern Ireland make up the United Kingdom. The Republic of Ireland is an independent country. So, the answer is yes.

Have you asked them how they feel about it?

To them, it might feel a bit like you were stealing their culture for your own use.

And, in the future of Trek, they might be counted as independant nations rather than "English property".

Always remember, one man's act of "cultural respect" is another man's act of "cultural theft".

You imply these nations are English property now. This is not the case, it is a political and cultural union. And what of the British people who have mixed parentage? I happen to have an English father and a Scottish mother. As I have explained, we are all British; I want a British name, so, if USS Dundee is the best I'll use it. It is akin to you selecting USS Perth for your starship.

CornishMonkey

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Report this Oct. 20 2009, 4:42 am

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Oct. 20 2009, 8:47 am)
Quote (CornishMonkey @ Oct. 19 2009, 5:16 am)
Quote (ZeroArmour @ Oct. 19 2009, 9:58 am)
Quote (CornishMonkey @ Oct. 19 2009, 4:51 am)
Quote (ZeroArmour @ Oct. 19 2009, 8:46 am)
Here's a question...

Are you (as a Brit) allowed to use Scottish/Welsh/Irish place names/persons for a British themed ship?

Great Britain consists the nations England, Scotland and Wales. Britain and Northern Ireland make up the United Kingdom. The Republic of Ireland is an independent country. So, the answer is yes.

Have you asked them how they feel about it?

To them, it might feel a bit like you were stealing their culture for your own use.

And, in the future of Trek, they might be counted as independant nations rather than "English property".

Always remember, one man's act of "cultural respect" is another man's act of "cultural theft".

You imply these nations are English property now. This is not the case, it is a political and cultural union. And what of the British people who have mixed parentage? I happen to have an English father and a Scottish mother. As I have explained, we are all British; I want a British name, so, if USS Dundee is the best I'll use it. It is akin to you selecting USS Perth for your starship.

Well if they aren't "English Property" what do you call a non-sovereign nation?

Neither Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland are independent nations at present (though NI seems happy with this). Scotland seems poised to vote itself free of British rule in the next few years, can Wales be all that far behind?

Look if you're happy with a name, fine, but you should think about the prospect that your "British" name might not be considered "British" at all!

PS: I'd never go with USS Perth, I've never been a big fan of naming ships after places.

I don't think you understand. The sovereign nation in question is Great Britain, brought about by the Act of Union. Scotland and Wales are no more English property than England is Scottish or Welsh property. It is a union, the sum of its parts.

The statistics indicate that if these nations were to have a vote on it, they would vote for the Union. However, that is not to say there isn't dissenting opinion, they are just not in the majority.

OtakuJo

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Report this Oct. 23 2009, 9:57 am

Actually by "statistics" -- is that what the polls say??

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USS Shepherd's Pie. (jk)

USS Picadilly
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Also, a vast number of ships these days are named after places. So it's an ongoing tradition -- which is likely to continue into the future.

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Report this Nov. 11 2009, 10:49 pm

USS Earl Gray. In honor of Picard's favorite tea.

OtakuJo

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 8:12 am

Well if you're going with the Earl Grey then you might as well have a Duke of Wellington as well.

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