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T'Pol's Pon Farr: Was it necessary?

sonofspock1

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:30 pm

For me, in a nutshell, no.

Just because you have a Vulcan on your Star Trek show doesn't mean we need to see them go through Pon Farr. We'd obviously seen it originally (and brilliantly IMO) with Spock in Amok Time, Vorik had it in Voyager's Blood Fever. Those I can put up with. I would even say Tuvok's was unnecessary (Body and Soul).

I know I kinda went into General ST there, but back to T'Pol's bout of Pon Farr. I know it was early because she was exposed to a mircobe (excuses, excuses, excuses! ), but, for me, it was Pon Farr for the sake of Pon Farr.

So. How long til someone posts a pic of T'Pol running half naked around the corridors?  :laugh:

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:34 pm

Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:30 pm)
For me, in a nutshell, no.

Just because you have a Vulcan on your Star Trek show doesn't mean we need to see them go through Pon Farr. We'd obviously seen it originally (and brilliantly IMO) with Spock in Amok Time, Vorik had it in Voyager's Blood Fever. Those I can put up with. I would even say Tuvok's was unnecessary.

OK, I know I kinda went in General ST there, but

wasn't that the episode when T'Pol tried to seduce Malcolm reed when he was dressed in a radiation suit or something

sonofspock1

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:38 pm

Yup, it was Bounty in S2.

By the way, I accidently posted that before I was finished, an accidental button mashing incident is to blame.  :blush:

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:40 pm

Quote (Scoobydog @ Oct. 08 2009, 12:35 am)
Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:30 pm)
For me, in a nutshell, no.

Just because you have a Vulcan on your Star Trek show doesn't mean we need to see them go through Pon Farr. We'd obviously seen it originally (and brilliantly IMO) with Spock in Amok Time, Vorik had it in Voyager's Blood Fever. Those I can put up with. I would even say Tuvok's was unnecessary.

OK, I know I kinda went in General ST there, but

Oh come on now Spocky, you know the male fans wanted to see T'Pol have some action. ¿Come on, you know that.

:cool:

I'm more of a Hoshi kinda guy!  :laugh:

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:40 pm

Well they had to show Tuvoks due to the fact that he had been in the DQ for seven years.  His time was up and he had to go through it.

As for Blood fever, really that was simply a plot device to show that Torres and Paris had interest in each other.  Voriec was really was not the main interest in the storyline.  I actually like Blood Fever though, was a nice little story and Torres looked HOT.

As for Bounty, you knew they would have to show it sometime.  The sexiest Vulcan ever seen would have to go through that.  I actually kind of like it because the interaction between TPol and Phlox was funny.

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:41 pm

Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:40 pm)
Quote (Scoobydog @ Oct. 08 2009, 12:35 am)
Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:30 pm)
For me, in a nutshell, no.

Just because you have a Vulcan on your Star Trek show doesn't mean we need to see them go through Pon Farr. We'd obviously seen it originally (and brilliantly IMO) with Spock in Amok Time, Vorik had it in Voyager's Blood Fever. Those I can put up with. I would even say Tuvok's was unnecessary.

OK, I know I kinda went in General ST there, but

Oh come on now Spocky, you know the male fans wanted to see T'Pol have some action. ?Come on, you know that.

:cool:

I'm more of a Hoshi kinda guy! ¿:laugh:

Nothing wrong with that, Hoshi is cute too. ;)

sonofspock1

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:47 pm

Quote (Dbear1 @ Oct. 08 2009, 12:40 am)
Well they had to show Tuvoks due to the fact that he had been in the DQ for seven years. ¿His time was up and he had to go through it.

As for Blood fever, really that was simply a plot device to show that Torres and Paris had interest in each other. ¿Voriec was really was not the main interest in the storyline. ¿I actually like Blood Fever though, was a nice little story and Torres looked HOT.

As for Bounty, you knew they would have to show it sometime. ¿The sexiest Vulcan ever seen would have to go through that. ¿I actually kind of like it because the interaction between TPol and Phlox was funny.

As this Pon Farr was early for T'Pol, I wonder would she have gone through a normal, regular, seven year PonFarr, or would this have screwed up her biological clock?

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:48 pm

Quote (Scoobydog @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:46 pm)
Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:38 pm)
Yup, it was Bounty in S2.

By the way, I accidently posted that before I was finished, an accidental button mashing incident is to blame. ?:blush:

I thought Bounty was in Season 4?

Nope it was the second to last episode in Season 2.  You might be thinking about Bound, which is in season 4

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:49 pm

Quote (Scoobydog @ Oct. 08 2009, 12:46 am)
Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:38 pm)
Yup, it was Bounty in S2.

By the way, I accidently posted that before I was finished, an accidental button mashing incident is to blame. ?:blush:

I thought Bounty was in Season 4?

Nope, the second last episode of S2.

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:52 pm

Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:47 pm)
Quote (Dbear1 @ Oct. 08 2009, 12:40 am)
Well they had to show Tuvoks due to the fact that he had been in the DQ for seven years. ?His time was up and he had to go through it.

As for Blood fever, really that was simply a plot device to show that Torres and Paris had interest in each other. ?Voriec was really was not the main interest in the storyline. ?I actually like Blood Fever though, was a nice little story and Torres looked HOT.

As for Bounty, you knew they would have to show it sometime. ?The sexiest Vulcan ever seen would have to go through that. ?I actually kind of like it because the interaction between TPol and Phlox was funny.

As this Pon Farr was early for T'Pol, I wonder would she have gone through a normal, regular, seven year PonFarr, or would this have screwed up her biological clock?

Good question, really have no way of answering for sure.  But I would guess not, since once Phlox gave her the serum she was no longer in Pon Far.

Another thing that popped in my mind, what happens in the books if she gets hit with Pon Far and Trip is half way across the galaxy being a spy?  Boy that could be a bit awkward to say the least.

sonofspock1

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 7:55 pm

Quote (Dbear1 @ Oct. 08 2009, 12:52 am)
Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:47 pm)
Quote (Dbear1 @ Oct. 08 2009, 12:40 am)
Well they had to show Tuvoks due to the fact that he had been in the DQ for seven years. ?His time was up and he had to go through it.

As for Blood fever, really that was simply a plot device to show that Torres and Paris had interest in each other. ?Voriec was really was not the main interest in the storyline. ?I actually like Blood Fever though, was a nice little story and Torres looked HOT.

As for Bounty, you knew they would have to show it sometime. ?The sexiest Vulcan ever seen would have to go through that. ?I actually kind of like it because the interaction between TPol and Phlox was funny.

As this Pon Farr was early for T'Pol, I wonder would she have gone through a normal, regular, seven year PonFarr, or would this have screwed up her biological clock?

Good question, really have no way of answering for sure. ¿But I would guess not, since once Phlox gave her the serum she was no longer in Pon Far.

Another thing that popped in my mind, what happens in the books if she gets hit with Pon Far and Trip is half way across the galaxy being a spy? ¿Boy that could be a bit awkward to say the least.

I dunno. She'd probably boost the speed of Enterprise, you know, "adversity is the mother of invention" and all that.  :laugh:

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 8:17 pm

Quote (sonofspock1 @ Oct. 07 2009, 7:30 pm)
For me, in a nutshell, no.

Just because you have a Vulcan on your Star Trek show doesn't mean we need to see them go through Pon Farr. We'd obviously seen it originally (and brilliantly IMO) with Spock in Amok Time, Vorik had it in Voyager's Blood Fever. Those I can put up with. I would even say Tuvok's was unnecessary (Body and Soul).

I know I kinda went into General ST there, but back to T'Pol's bout of Pon Farr. I know it was early because she was exposed to a mircobe (excuses, excuses, excuses! ), but, for me, it was Pon Farr for the sake of Pon Farr.

So. How long til someone posts a pic of T'Pol running half naked around the corridors? ¿:laugh:

Blood Fever was one of the few Voyager episodes I watched and I was not impressed at all (and they said Enterprise was bad).

T'Pol's contrived Pon Farr in Bounty was just written badly. I would have preferred to see her go through the "real thing" and see a meaningful story around her thought process in resolving it. If the episode was in season 3 or 4, we all know who she would resolve it with.

Also, here is your picture. Kinda hot!:

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 8:42 pm

I thought "Bounty" was exploitative. I never minded the decon scenes or T'Pol's catsuit, but Bounty crossed a line for me because it wasn't "real Pon Farr" and it was designed to get the character to loose control and her dignity AND for the male viewers to find it hot. It seemed like a crass thing to do to the actress and the character.

Yes, at some point, she could have gone through it because it is so much a part of Vulcan mythology - but I hated the cheap plot device in Bounty.

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 9:27 pm

Quote (honeybee1111 @ Oct. 07 2009, 8:42 pm)
I thought "Bounty" was exploitative. I never minded the decon scenes or T'Pol's catsuit, but Bounty crossed a line for me because it wasn't "real Pon Farr" and it was designed to get the character to loose control and her dignity AND for the male viewers to find it hot. It seemed like a crass thing to do to the actress and the character.

Yes, at some point, she could have gone through it because it is so much a part of Vulcan mythology - but I hated the cheap plot device in Bounty.

WOW, we really do think alike!

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 9:41 pm

Okay, I don't get the logistics...didn't someone say the female Vulcan's pon far schedule was set in place by her Vulcan mate's? that way they're in sync.
T'Pol did tell Phlox it was her first pon far. Would she not experience it until she married? (normally).
And does her psychic bond with Trip change all that? She didn't know quite what to make of that bond herself (Bound), but it was determined to be there.
She was quite circumspect in revealing to Trip that she spent the 2 weeks after her wedding to Koss "alone". Before she could explain further, of course, they were interrupted. The psychic bond would have been instigated by the time of the wedding, though not realized till later.
So this is a call-out to you Vulcan experts.

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