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"Every person in uniform is a hero."

Beccs_

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 10:17 pm

Quote (TheChronicOne @ Sep. 30 2009, 11:13 pm)
Why and why not?


I've heard it said before numerous times. I think it is utter garbage.

Just because you are in the military or even served in theater does not make you a "hero."



Anyone agree with me? Or do you agree with the original statement?

Not everyone, no.

But plenty certainly are.

And not only in military uniforms, either.

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 10:17 pm

Quote (TheChronicOne @ Oct. 01 2009, 7:13 pm)
Why and why not?


I've heard it said before numerous times. I think it is utter garbage.

Just because you are in the military or even served in theater does not make you a "hero."



Anyone agree with me? Or do you agree with the original statement?

no

idiots inhabit every branch of the military

and  government

and its full of its fair share of cowards as well

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 10:20 pm

Well being in the Army I must agree with you. One of the biggest shitbags I've know all my life was deployed. He was a shitbag before he left and he's a shitbag now. Then there are those that say, "Well if I'm in a convoy and a five year old points an AK at me I'm going to shoot her." Yeah, that's real classy. Especially considering you can unload an AK-47 into an MRAP or any up-armored vehicle all day without hurting it. Thats not even considering that the kid's probably not going to hit anything. So yeah, bastards join the military too. In fact, I would say the majority of people in the military are ass holes who never see combat but act bad ass. Most people join because they are trying to fill an insecurity.

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 10:24 pm

even shitheads can be heroic once in a while.

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 10:25 pm

Quote (Cherry_On_Top @ Sep. 30 2009, 11:24 pm)
even shitheads can be heroic once in a while.

You can put a pig in a dress, but that doesnt make it a prom date.

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 10:29 pm

In the long and honored history of America
There are names that shine like beacons in the night
The Patriots whose vision gave us meaning
Who kept the lamp of freedom burning bright

In the long and honored history of America
There are those that paid the last and final price
Who were called upon by chance, or desperate circumstance
To make the ultimate sacrifice

A grateful nation bows its head in sorrow
And in thanks for guaranteeing our tomorrow
The last full measure of devotion
That's what they gave to the cause

The last full measure of devotion
And though they cannot hear our applause
We honor them forever and keep alive their story
Pay tribute to their lives and give them all the glory

The last full measure of devotion
Beyond the call of duty were their deeds
The last full measure of devotion
They gave themselves to serve the greater need

And for those who did survive
And came back home alive
They join in praise of comrades who were slain
And highly resolved, most highly resolved
That these dead shall not have died in vain

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 10:51 pm

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Report this Oct. 02 2009, 12:34 am

I don't feel like a hero.  All the uniform gets me is lots of girls want to talk to me.

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Report this Oct. 02 2009, 1:58 am

Not all military service members are heroes, but Cruervo is wrong when he says "most" of us are No Nos who act bad ass. :eyesroll: While I know a good number of No Nos in the military, the majority that I've met aren't like that at all.

The soldiers involved with the abuse at Abu Ghraib are among those that cannot be considered heroes. :logical:

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Report this Oct. 02 2009, 4:40 am

no.
I met police officers who were really jerks and vulgar and some are even racists.

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Report this Oct. 02 2009, 10:09 am

I guess it's how you define a hero.  I think most people define it as acting in a certain way in a dangerous situation.  Seems to me that people in this thread are defining it as being a great person all the time.  Not that I don't think being a great person all the time is an admiral thing.  I just don't think it fits the definition of heroic.

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Report this Oct. 02 2009, 11:01 am

I think the point is that putting on a uniform is being heroic in itself.  If you define hero as putting your life on the line to help others.

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Report this Oct. 02 2009, 2:43 pm

It's like the statement: "Support our Troops."  Does that support include when they are raping women and killing children?  The sentiment is noble, but leads directly to abuse.  Hence, my signature below.  You want to know why various governments don't use robotic soldiers for invasions--even though they might be more effective in the long run?  Because nobody is going to put a bumper sticker on their car that says: "Support our Robots."  It is the same reason the Americans haven't nuked anybody in 70 years.  Support for mass murder on a biblical scale seldom sells.  People are still arguing (10 forward included) over whether the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were warranted.

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Report this Oct. 02 2009, 2:45 pm

Quote (Yourstruly_Jack_theRipper @ Oct. 02 2009, 2:29 pm)
I wore the uniform and so did others.
But we all worked for our honorable discharges serving our country



:cool:

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Report this Oct. 02 2009, 3:06 pm

Quote (TheChronicOne @ Oct. 02 2009, 7:43 am)
Quote (Trekkicat @ Oct. 02 2009, 3:40 am)
no.
I met police officers who were really jerks and vulgar and some are even racists.

But... you are a racist.... ¿ ¿:question:

I am not racist. I just choose the people I want to have contact with just like all the people I know. and I do not care about the skin colour but about the behaviour.

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