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kludge77

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 11:33 am

I just watched Acquisition, Oasis & Detained last night. All fine episodes, nothing spectacular but each enjoyable in there own right.

Eight years ago, Acquisition would have turned me into a crazed frothing lunatic. I'd have been parading around the living room pontificating on the timeline inconstancies and emotional Vulcan inaccuracies. Going so long without any ST has obviously ?cooled me down. I'm like a man who was marooned for years finally rescued. Now eating his least favourite meal and loving it.

There is something be be said for "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." I mean from a canon perceptive this episode is all wrong, but I told myself when I started watching this show to 'let it all go"

The episode was a riot. I never laughed so hard as when they took Travis's chair. What the hell? :laugh:

Middleman

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 12:35 pm

Quote (kludge77 @ Oct. 01 2009, 11:33 am)
There is something be be said for "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." I mean from a canon perceptive this episode is all wrong, but I told myself when I started watching this show to 'let it all go"

I think that this was exactly what CBS's intent by pulling Star Trek off the air for a extended period of time. But instead of "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" I think it's more like "we need to teach you a lesson". It's unfortunate that Enterprise was the series that was in place when they decided to "teach us the lesson" because Enterprise was on its way to becoming the best Trek series had CBS allowed it the time the other series was allowed.

What were the lessons they were trying to teach us? IMO it's this:
1. Don't assume that Trek will be there forever, it won't be unless you support it.
2. Stop being so darn picky.

kludge77

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 2:55 pm

Quote (Middleman @ Sep. 30 2009, 9:35 pm)
Quote (kludge77 @ Oct. 01 2009, 11:33 am)
There is something be be said for "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." I mean from a canon perceptive this episode is all wrong, but I told myself when I started watching this show to 'let it all go"

I think that this was exactly CBS's intent by pulling Star Trek off the air for a extended period of time. But instead of "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" I think it's more like "we need to teach you a lesson". It's unfortunate that Enterprise was the series that was in place when they decided to "teach us the lesson" because Enterprise was on its way to becoming the best Trek series had CBS allowed it the time the other series was allowed.

What were the lessons they were trying to teach us? IMO it's this:
1. Don't assume that Trek will be there forever, it won't be unless you support it.
2. Stop being so darn picky.

I would bet it was more "we need to make money"

I will not say that I wouldn't be pleased as punch to have another TNG/VOY type show on the air. I would. Seriously, I'd do a bell kick in the office restroom.

I'm just saying, "Any Star Trek is better than no Star Trek"

In fact it is becoming my mantra here on the forums.

daniliescu

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 3:00 pm

i loved aquisition, it was funny and i like the ferengi with those #### big ears of theirs

kludge77

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 3:22 pm

Quote (daniliescu @ Oct. 01 2009, 12:00 am)
i loved aquisition, it was funny and i like the ferengi with those #### big ears of theirs

agreed! HY-STERICAL!

whyaduck

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 3:34 pm

I thought it was great and had no problem with Enterprise showing Ferengi. They never mention what they are.



"I can't lock onto its language."
"It's a lower life-form, you fool! Probably the captain's next meal."
"Don't be so sure. Look at the size of its ears!"

- Grish and Muk, sizing up Porthos in the captain's quarters

roser5838

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 4:02 pm

Quote (whyaduck @ Oct. 01 2009, 3:34 pm)
I thought it was great and had no problem with Enterprise showing Ferengi. They never mention what they are.



"I can't lock onto its language."
"It's a lower life-form, you fool! Probably the captain's next meal."
"Don't be so sure. Look at the size of its ears!"

- Grish and Muk, sizing up Porthos in the captain's quarters

That was a funny scene!  

I didn't have a problem with it either.  Just good fun!

kludge77

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 4:03 pm

Quote (roser5838 @ Oct. 01 2009, 1:02 am)
I didn't have a problem with it either. ¿Just good fun!

I think sums it up perfectly...

It's the only way I'm going to be able to enjoy Enterprise... So far, So good.

whyaduck

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 4:09 pm



ARCHER: Did it work?
T'POL: Perfectly.
ARCHER: (holding out his manacled wrists) Do you have the key?
T'POL: Not that interesting. No sense of humour. Always complaining.
ARCHER: I'll make it up to you.
T'POL: How?
ARCHER: Five bars of gold? Open these things, Sub-Commander. That's an order.

roser5838

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 4:20 pm

Quote (whyaduck @ Oct. 01 2009, 4:09 pm)


ARCHER: Did it work?
T'POL: Perfectly.
ARCHER: (holding out his manacled wrists) Do you have the key?
T'POL: Not that interesting. No sense of humour. Always complaining.
ARCHER: I'll make it up to you.
T'POL: How?
ARCHER: Five bars of gold? Open these things, Sub-Commander. That's an order.

Heehee! T'Pol is great in this episode!

I think Enterprise is more than just good fun. ¿

It is a great character driven series in its own right. ¿I really enjoy it, not just because it is some form of Trek! ¿

I know I have said it before, but to me, this is the most like TOS of any of the ST series of shows! ¿I am so happy to have this shows, but I wish there was more!

whyaduck

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 4:26 pm

I've said the same thing. The first thing I thought when I saw my first episode of Enterprise (earlier this year on SciFi) was that it reminded me of TOS. Up until I saw Enterprise, TOS was my favorite.

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 4:52 pm

I remember the night ENT first premiered. UPN was two years gone in my market and the show premiered at 1am on a Thurdsay morning!! (I was a little angry because so many others saw the show hours before I did, though now I feel sorry for those that didn't see it at all.) Needless to say I missed my 9am class later that morning. I remember being stunned by the different changes the show offered (the theme song, profanity, provincial attitudes, the Vulcans, the ship, etc... - all of which I loved). The emotional range of the characters was definitely a throw back to TOS and nice to see. I love the comparatively stoic attitudes in TNG too, but the contrast solidified ENT's place as an earlier point in history. ENT also helped explain and resolve a lot of points/inconsistencies in TOS.

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 5:21 pm

Enterprise seemed designed to appeal to me, right from Broken Bow. People swore and drank. No kids on the ship or holodecks or psychologists. Klingons aren't the good guys. The idea of being in space was threatening. And unlike many people, I was impressed at how hard the writers seemed to work to address any continuity issues. I think more attention was paid rather than less, despite all the nitpicking.

As for Acquisition, I"m a sucker for a light, the crew is in jeopardy episode in which our heroes outsmart the bad guys. The fact the crew never learned the name of the race was a perfect enough explanation for me at the time. Considering the real first contact with the Ferengi was at Roswell in 1947, it was all cool with me.

And you are lucky, lotshaker, I didn't even get 2am reruns when I moved to a non UPN market in the 4th season. I caught  reruns at Mom's house.

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 5:31 pm

I agree with you, honeybee. It was good to have the Klingons as foes again. But I liked how ENT went even further with their depiction of making them 'bad'. TOS for the most part showed them just as being enemies with little redemption and so it was hard to perceive them as real. But ENT focused on learning to objectify cultures and theirs was a warrior based society. So their 'badness' was a result of misunderstandings, which wouldn't be resolved until Kirk's time.

I had to drive 2 hours each week to my grandmother's house to see season 2 of ENT. FOX stopped carrying it completely after the 1st season. Though in hindsight I do recognize my fortune.

Acquisition is a good episode. It's lighthearted, funny. The Ferengi didn't mention their name and I doubt they'd mention their failure back home.

roser5838

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Report this Oct. 01 2009, 5:34 pm

Quote (whyaduck @ Oct. 01 2009, 4:26 pm)
I've said the same thing. The first thing I thought when I saw my first episode of Enterprise (earlier this year on SciFi) was that it reminded me of TOS. Up until I saw Enterprise, TOS was my favorite.

Me too.

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