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Not following canon was successful.

Quantum7

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 1:19 am

The box office numbers don't lie.

Star Trek was a success.

Complaining about this or that is counterproductive to Trek evolution.

I'm already leery of this idea to placate traditional trek fans.

In my opinion they are what is wrong with the Star Trek franchise.

RomulusRemus

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 3:34 am

The numbers do lie.
This movie sucked and it sucked hard.
But you are right about one thing, they should not have bothered trying to placate long time Trek fans if their hearts weren't really into it. The alternate timeline explanation is a condescending act of charity to those of us who care about continuity and canon.

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 3:46 am

Quote (RomulusRemus @ Sep. 17 2009, 3:34 am)
The numbers do lie.
This movie sucked and it sucked hard.
But you are right about one thing, they should not have bothered trying to placate long time Trek fans if their hearts weren't really into it. The alternate timeline explanation is a condescending act of charity to those of us who care about continuity and canon.

:eyesroll:

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 8:19 am

Quote (Quantum7 @ Sep. 17 2009, 1:19 am)
The box office numbers don't lie.

Star Trek was a success.

Yep.

MrsStarbuck

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 8:32 am

Welcome to the boards Quantum7. And what an entrance! :laugh:

I agree that it was a commercial success, and has opened Star Trek up to a much wider audience. People who might have avoided it for being too 'geeky' or whatever are suddenly realising how cool it actually is and what they've been missing all this time :cool:

Vice_Adm_Baxter

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 8:55 am

Quote (Quantum7 @ Sep. 16 2009, 10:19 pm)
I'm already leery of this idea to placate traditional trek fans.

In my opinion they are what is wrong with the Star Trek franchise.

Well the fans are the ones that have kept TREK going over 40 years. Where were you all this time hmmm? Probably out there saying how lame TREK is.

Vice_Adm_Baxter

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 9:04 am

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Sep. 17 2009, 5:32 am)
Welcome to the boards Quantum7. And what an entrance! :laugh:

I agree that it was a commercial success, and has opened Star Trek up to a much wider audience. People who might have avoided it for being too 'geeky' or whatever are suddenly realising how cool it actually is and what they've been missing all this time :cool:

Well some people have a hard time admitting they are in denial. Those that seek help to live a normal life, we are here for them  ;)

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 12:56 pm

While I don't have anything against Trek fans who dislike the movie (since they're entitled to their opinion), I still think they should at least be grateful that Abrams made ST popular again among the mainstream. I for one am still amazed that Star Wars fans remain loyal to their franchise even after those horrific prequel movies came out.

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 1:03 pm

Quantum and Remus...

Are you the same person trying to re-gnite both sides of the war in a trolling effort?

Wow...talk about TRYING to stir up trouble!

Please, nobody should bite on this one.

:eyesroll:

Quantum7

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 2:26 pm

(Mrs.Starbuck)

Thank you.

Ministers of the Trek world I must define.

I am by no means trying to cause trouble.

I simply wanted to state that following canon can be suffocating to creativity.

I let my emotions get the better of me.

I am and always will be, a Trek fan.

Live long and prosper.

Narada

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 2:30 pm

You are not causing of trouble Quantum. The person RemusRomulan is only a person from this board known commonly by three other names which are banned.

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 2:36 pm

Quote (Quantum7 @ Sep. 17 2009, 1:19 am)
The box office numbers don't lie.

Star Trek was a success.

Complaining about this or that is counterproductive to Trek evolution.

I'm already leery of this idea to placate traditional trek fans.

In my opinion they are what is wrong with the Star Trek franchise.

I liked the movie for what is was, a great summer blockbuster, but didn't think it felt very Star Trek to me.

I felt it tried so hard to make the characters something that they weren't. If you like slutty officers and screaming Vulcans... well, more power to you. I didn't hate it, just have a hard time calling it Star Trek.

Didn't we already try appealing to the masses with Enterprise? How well did that work out?

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 2:45 pm

I loved the movie as a summer block buster and I loved it for it's new fresh approach to Star Trek. It's a whole new universe out there for Star Trek to explore and I am excited. Plus, I am happy to see the characters of Kirk, Spock & McCoy back in action even though they are played by new actors.

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 2:56 pm

Quote (SaturnsRings @ Sep. 17 2009, 2:45 pm)
I loved the movie as a summer block buster and I loved it for it's new fresh approach to Star Trek. It's a whole new universe out there for Star Trek to explore and I am excited. Plus, I am happy to see the characters of Kirk, Spock & McCoy back in action even though they are played by new actors.

:cool:  :cool:  :logical:

kludge77

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 3:58 pm

My thing is this, why are we clean slating the original series in order to tell it again!? Give it up already! I don't care about them anymore. We have 200 years and only 3 quadrants of a galaxy explored, can't we try something new!? Why not pick a brand new crew and just venture out. New aliens, new worlds, new technologies, new stories.

Isn't that what made Star Trek so appealing? I was to me. Ordinary people solving issues with their minds. Kirk was a problem solver not a drunk. Sure he got the girl and the last punch, but his guile and cunning were the tools that saved the day. Not childish bar room brawls that involved the groping of Urhua.

Do we just want another action hero in space movie? Will that not marginalize the franchise?

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