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Historical Time Travel. An impossibility

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Report this Apr. 25 2010, 4:05 pm

> id="QUOTE"> border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">>>Quote> id="QUOTE">There are not any experiments that you can set down here before anyone that will prove time travel has occured. No one can go into the past and change history.
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Once again you skip over the various Quantum Eraser experiments which can alter the past of particles, changing the particle history!!!

In this case history is change every time the experiment take place. This has nothing to do with the games that I play, unlike you i know the bounties between what real or fake.

If you just Google, delay choice or Quantum Eraser you would see that these are real experiment that have been perform on many occasions.

A newer version of the experiment is actually being conducted Proffessor John G Cramer, Called the Quantum Lair experiment, he is actually attempting to create a time paradox where the known history of a particle is alternate.

This experiment is an attempt to show that Quantum entanglement does not just span spacial distant but temporal ones as well.

You keep stating that no experiment can show time travel, but there  are no attempts ( other than attempts of berate me) by you to address scientific data that these experiments have generated. Quantum delay choice and Quantum eraser actually show that our perception of how time operate is not only effected by Relativitic effects but Quantum ones as well.

For those that are interested in Cramer's latest work , here is a short article.

Backward goes forward

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Report this Apr. 25 2010, 9:34 pm

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Once again you skip over the various Quantum Eraser experiments which can alter the past of particles, changing the particle history!!!

In this case history is change every time the experiment take place. This has nothing to do with the games that I play, unlike you i know the bounties between what real or fake.

If you just Google, delay choice or Quantum Eraser you would see that these are real experiment that have been perform on many occasions.

A newer version of the experiment is actually being conducted Proffessor John G Cramer, Called the Quantum Lair experiment, he is actually attempting to create a time paradox where the known history of a particle is alternate.

This experiment is an attempt to show that Quantum entanglement does not just span spacial distant but temporal ones as well.

You keep stating that no experiment can show time travel, but there  are no attempts ( other than attempts of berate me) by you to address scientific data that these experiments have generated. Quantum delay choice and Quantum eraser actually show that our perception of how time operate is not only effected by Relativitic effects but Quantum ones as well.

For those that are interested in Cramer's latest work , here is a short article.

Backward goes forward


Basically all of those experiments are pork barrel projects meant to funnel money around to different political orginizations under the guise of seeming to be important.

You cannot attach radio carbon dating to energetic particles as you are when you try to assume that you can change the history by trying to change the past travel paths of a particle.

You constantly switch back and forth Lancer between biological time which is comprised of chemical reactions that cause certain reactions in the brain to occur such as images emotions, responses etc. Once an emotion, response or image occurs in the brain does not mean that if you change the chemical reactions to occur again the same manner that caused the result to begin with will not result in the person traveling back in time.

Time is a measure of atoms between each other based on how their energetic properties effect each other as well as the medium in which they are contained effect the atoms.

If you are able to force the particles back along the same path that they started out from and sent them along the same path that they initialy took and then changed their travel path at some point during their initial travel from point A to B you have not changed any historical event associated with the particles. All you have done is altered the travel path the the atoms initially traveled upon which would not effect any biological historical event.

You can sit there and post as many articles that you want to that professes some truth about time traveling being real but at the end of the day the attempt to create an effect  of moses parting the waves in someone's mind is nothing more than a cheap parlor trick from an era when people were not educated.

If time travel was true then show me one place in any AMERICA science book that discusses time travel being true. But you wont, not now not ever because time historical time travel is not possible.

Memories of a biological nature are not attached to energetic particles which both systems are completely different.

You continue to say that I do not know the difference between reality and what is false? Im not the one who continually tries to make everyone believe that time travel is possible with the rantings of severaly bi-polar and delusional people trying to confuse someone with the use of quantum entanlge of words to make the person believe in what you want them to believe.

Time travel is a scam where only delusional people that want others to think that they are intelligent and know the meaning of everything use time travel to build a geonium base of nothing.

The quatum eraser is also a scam that is nothing more than twisted words that once again cause people to become confused with trying to understand what is being talked about by entangling words in their mind to force them to look at the person like they are really intelligent when they are.

Take your carpet bag of parlor tricks and do everyone a favor and keep quiet.

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Report this Apr. 25 2010, 10:49 pm

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Report this Apr. 25 2010, 11:09 pm

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Dryson, Dryson calm down. Everybody is entitled to their opinions, so there is no need for belligerence. Besides, Lancer has proven himself on countless of occasions since he is a real-life physicist. However, I must admit that I am somewhat skeptical of time traveling into the past, but I like to keep an open mind about that possibility and I suggest you do the same. Who knows? You might be pleasantly surprised!  


Where is the proof that Lancer is a physcist? Just taking him at face value on what he wants you to believe is not proof positive that he is a physcist. Just like he said that he was nuclear engineer as well. I have been around people like him before that will say anything to get attention.

There was a complete bi-polar sociopath that I knew who was a stalker as well as he thought a woman liked him just because she was using him to get what he had. He said on several occasions that he had gone to school with Lebron James that he had also went to school with this person that knew someone popular. These types of people are called habitial liars as they think no one will ever check the validity of their story where they expect everyone to believe them. They think they are being slick because no one ever says anything to them about it because they are either using the person to get what they want or do not want to hurt the persons feelings. Until Lancer can provide proof of being both a physcist and a nuclear engineer then i considered him to be a liar.

Time travel is not possible regardless of the so called experiments that have shown supposed truth. No one has ever traveled back in time or forward in any historical event of human history. Time travel is simply nothing more than closing your eyes thinking a point in history and then letting the dream maker mechanisms in the brain take over to create a day dream. Once you open your eyes reality takes over and you are still in the same time period of when you closed your eyes. Time Travel is not possible but it does make for good sci-fiction.

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Report this Apr. 25 2010, 11:28 pm

Let me guess you probably believe that Stephen Kings:The Langoliers is real as well that there are little monsters running around eating up time? The movie Langoliers is nothing more than a metaphoric representation of another person in your life bothering you while you are trying to do something else that you want to do because they want you to do something for them that they can do but are to lazy to do for theirself or just bothering you to keep your from working on something.

The lights you saw at the end of the movie do not represent anything other than fancy special effects.

Sorry historical time is not possible. You cannot wish to go back and see a person that you never knew or change an event in the past.

The more you try an work on this infinite impossibility the more you fall into the trap of being depressed in never having enough time.

When someone dies you need to move on and continue your life or it will eat away at you until you die. Don't dwell on someone's death as it will Langolier your time.

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Report this Apr. 26 2010, 6:14 am

Quote (dryson @ April 25 2010, 12:28 am)
Let me guess you probably believe that Stephen Kings:The Langoliers is real as well that there are little monsters running around eating up time? The movie Langoliers is nothing more than a metaphoric representation of another person in your life bothering you while you are trying to do something else that you want to do because they want you to do something for them that they can do but are to lazy to do for theirself or just bothering you to keep your from working on something.

The lights you saw at the end of the movie do not represent anything other than fancy special effects.

Sorry historical time is not possible. You cannot wish to go back and see a person that you never knew or change an event in the past.

The more you try an work on this infinite impossibility the more you fall into the trap of being depressed in never having enough time.

When someone dies you need to move on and continue your life or it will eat away at you until you die. Don't dwell on someone's death as it will Langolier your time.

Although I haven't yet seen Stephen Kings: The Langoliers, I understand that it is indeed a great metaphor for the impossibility of time traveling into the past. As our knowledge of physics increases, eventually we will know for sure.

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Report this Apr. 26 2010, 4:40 pm

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Once again you skip over the various Quantum Eraser experiments which can alter the past of particles, changing the particle history!!!

In this case history is change every time the experiment take place. This has nothing to do with the games that I play, unlike you i know the bounties between what real or fake.

If you just Google, delay choice or Quantum Eraser you would see that these are real experiment that have been perform on many occasions.

A newer version of the experiment is actually being conducted Proffessor John G Cramer, Called the Quantum Lair experiment, he is actually attempting to create a time paradox where the known history of a particle is alternate.

This experiment is an attempt to show that Quantum entanglement does not just span spacial distant but temporal ones as well.

You keep stating that no experiment can show time travel, but there ¿are no attempts ( other than attempts of berate me) by you to address scientific data that these experiments have generated. Quantum delay choice and Quantum eraser actually show that our perception of how time operate is not only effected by Relativitic effects but Quantum ones as well.

For those that are interested in Cramer's latest work , here is a short article.

Backward goes forward


Basically all of those experiments are pork barrel projects meant to funnel money around to different political orginizations under the guise of seeming to be important.

You cannot attach radio carbon dating to energetic particles as you are when you try to assume that you can change the history by trying to change the past travel paths of a particle.

You constantly switch back and forth Lancer between biological time which is comprised of chemical reactions that cause certain reactions in the brain to occur such as images emotions, responses etc. Once an emotion, response or image occurs in the brain does not mean that if you change the chemical reactions to occur again the same manner that caused the result to begin with will not result in the person traveling back in time.

Time is a measure of atoms between each other based on how their energetic properties effect each other as well as the medium in which they are contained effect the atoms.

If you are able to force the particles back along the same path that they started out from and sent them along the same path that they initialy took and then changed their travel path at some point during their initial travel from point A to B you have not changed any historical event associated with the particles. All you have done is altered the travel path the the atoms initially traveled upon which would not effect any biological historical event.

You can sit there and post as many articles that you want to that professes some truth about time traveling being real but at the end of the day the attempt to create an effect ¿of moses parting the waves in someone's mind is nothing more than a cheap parlor trick from an era when people were not educated.

If time travel was true then show me one place in any AMERICA science book that discusses time travel being true. But you wont, not now not ever because time historical time travel is not possible.

Memories of a biological nature are not attached to energetic particles which both systems are completely different.

You continue to say that I do not know the difference between reality and what is false? Im not the one who continually tries to make everyone believe that time travel is possible with the rantings of severaly bi-polar and delusional people trying to confuse someone with the use of quantum entanlge of words to make the person believe in what you want them to believe.

Time travel is a scam where only delusional people that want others to think that they are intelligent and know the meaning of everything use time travel to build a geonium base of nothing.

The quatum eraser is also a scam that is nothing more than twisted words that once again cause people to become confused with trying to understand what is being talked about by entangling words in their mind to force them to look at the person like they are really intelligent when they are.

Take your carpet bag of parlor tricks and do everyone a favor and keep quiet.

Again nothing positive to contribute, you deny first evident in form of experiment and now attack the experiment themselves. we are talking about small experimental rigs, costing in around 40 to 50 thousand dollars, the pay off is the fact that Quantum mechanics has created the modern IC chips,lasers, and semiconductors that are now the basics of our present technology.

We can attack CERN and multi billion dollar price tag, The Delay choice experiments were bargains.

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Report this Apr. 27 2010, 6:16 am

Dryson, why are posing as a Guest? It's quite obvious that you are attempting to fool us by pretending to be another individual, but we're not stupid, you know. This only proves you are immature and need of attention. What advantage do you have to gain by resorting to such tactics?

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Report this Apr. 27 2010, 9:59 am

Quote (Whitestar7 @ April 26 2010, 7:16 am)
Dryson, why are posing as a Guest? It's quite obvious that you are attempting to fool us by pretending to be another individual, but we're not stupid, you know. This only proves you are immature and need of attention. What advantage do you have to gain by resorting to such tactics?

He not posing, it appears that he has been injected due to bad posing manners.

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Report this Apr. 28 2010, 8:28 pm

Quote (4_o_20 @ April 27 2010, 7:25 pm)
What's the deal with this guest thing? I was hoping he'd been kicked off the boards...

I think they couldn't delete his posts, but did cancel his account

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Report this Apr. 29 2010, 1:34 pm

Quote (4_o_20 @ April 28 2010, 5:27 am)
Let me be the first to say;

"Ding dong the witch is dead. Which old witch? The wicked witch? Ding dong the wicked witch is DEAD! She's gone where the goblins go, below, below below your home. Ding dong the wicked witch is dead!"

I'm cracking the Champagne as we speak. I kid you not!

I believe i share a toast with you... He won't be missed. :D

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Report this May. 10 2010, 8:59 am

Quote (lanceromega @ April 28 2010, 2:34 pm)
Quote (4_o_20 @ April 28 2010, 5:27 am)
Let me be the first to say;

"Ding dong the witch is dead. Which old witch? The wicked witch? Ding dong the wicked witch is DEAD! She's gone where the goblins go, below, below below your home. Ding dong the wicked witch is dead!"

I'm cracking the Champagne as we speak. I kid you not!

I believe i share a toast with you... He won't be missed. :D

If that's true, I'm toasting with you guys. Count me in! Come on, guys, I'm buying the first round! :cool:

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