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The Repair station from Dead Stop

grigori

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Report this Sep. 15 2009, 6:55 pm

Quote (honeybee1111 @ Sep. 15 2009, 6:48 pm)
I tend to think no "race" was controlling that station. It was AI, probably built by AI. Long ago, having shucked off its humanoid masters. I say humanoid masters, only because it seemed to have preference for humanoid "processors".

That was interesting. Built by humanoid masters who perhaps DID have an ethical side, but then AI took over, and it's only logical when AI figures out that these biological units make great computers. Nothing sinister about it; AI has no sense of human morality.

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Report this Sep. 15 2009, 8:42 pm

I like these comments!

:cool:  :logical:  :logical:

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Report this Sep. 15 2009, 9:22 pm

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Just one of those interesting origins mysteries. :)

Despite its modern/futuristic veneer, it could have been created thousands of years (in the Trek Universe). ?Capable of adapting to the surrounding evolving technology of those it came into contact with. ?An adaptive program that allowed it to service craft with different levels of technology.

I agree--I don't think it was any of our familiar species.

AND I think that T'Pol was right, to a point, when she said that some cultures aren't motivated by material gain.

IF YOU RECALL--and the timing is crucial--the fake Archer didn't call Mayweather down to the Launch Bay UNTIL the scene moments after Tucker and Reed climbed up into the air vent and started snooping around.

So possibly most visitors to the repair station DO get a good deal, but someone long ago justified adding another brain to their central computer only in cases where a visitor violates the rules.

I hadn't thought of that - that the station only took "people" from those who broke the rules, BUT why wouldn't it take the person/people who broke the rules? ?Your theory makes sense because the aliens who sent Enterprise wouldn't knowingly send Enterprise there without a warning that the station will take a crew member, would they? ?UNLESS, they were from the species that created the station and needed to be certain that the station was properly "staffed"?? ?OR from a species that didn't value the life of its crewmembers, I guess.

BTW, why Travis? ?What special knowledge did he have? ?Wouldn't it have been better to take Trip or someone else from engineering?

I saw someone wrote they wished the station didn't look so TNG. ?But couldn't it have been built by a more advanced species who travel the galaxies and tried to make sure there is a repair station for its own people. ?They offer their services to others to make sure it is properly staffed when they (the builders) need it.

It was the Tellarites that told Archer about the station, and seeing as how they were at war with the Andorians at the time, which shows that they didn't have the level of tech that high (not to mention that they were also one of the founding races of the Federation), they couldn't have built the station in any way shape or form.

Agree. I prefer to believe that this was a lead-in precurser to "Spocks Brain"... (although a light-years better episode)

I agree with you Yanks. After thinking about this and remembering reading your post earlier, I have came to this conclusion - it is very likely that the Eymorg race could have built the station.

Here is some supporting facts:

(1) The Eymorg controller

Quote
(The Enterprise is at Red Alert as an alien vessel approaches them.)
SULU: Phaser banks standing by, sir.
CHEKOV: Range forty three thousand and closing.
KIRK: What do you read, Mister Spock?
SPOCK: Configuration unidentified. Ion propulsion, high velocity, though of a unique technology.
...
KIRK: Well, Scotty?
SCOTT: It beats me, but isn't she a beauty?
KIRK: Interesting design.
SCOTT: I've never seen anything like her. And ion propulsion at that. They could teach us a thing or two.


(3) The Eymorg race technological advance enough to build an AI to maintain itself and acquire a brain. Some of the knowledge in the teacher could have used to build the station's AI. We know the medical (surgical and biological knowledge) and scientific (propulsion, space vessel design) portion of the Teacher's knowledge base. When it comes to Computer Science, I would not be surprise that the teacher is a strong candidate to choose as the source of knowledge to create the station's AI.

BrotherofShran01

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Report this Sep. 17 2009, 6:04 pm

Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 16 2009, 9:57 am)
Quote (BrotherofShran01 @ Sep. 15 2009, 9:22 pm)
Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 14 2009, 11:20 am)
Quote (Camorite @ Sep. 14 2009, 10:57 am)
Quote (roser5838 @ Sep. 14 2009, 10:48 am)
Quote (grigori @ Sep. 13 2009, 3:19 pm)
Quote (24thcenstfan @ Sep. 13 2009, 2:42 pm)
Just one of those interesting origins mysteries. :)

Despite its modern/futuristic veneer, it could have been created thousands of years (in the Trek Universe). ?Capable of adapting to the surrounding evolving technology of those it came into contact with. ?An adaptive program that allowed it to service craft with different levels of technology.

I agree--I don't think it was any of our familiar species.

AND I think that T'Pol was right, to a point, when she said that some cultures aren't motivated by material gain.

IF YOU RECALL--and the timing is crucial--the fake Archer didn't call Mayweather down to the Launch Bay UNTIL the scene moments after Tucker and Reed climbed up into the air vent and started snooping around.

So possibly most visitors to the repair station DO get a good deal, but someone long ago justified adding another brain to their central computer only in cases where a visitor violates the rules.

I hadn't thought of that - that the station only took "people" from those who broke the rules, BUT why wouldn't it take the person/people who broke the rules? ?Your theory makes sense because the aliens who sent Enterprise wouldn't knowingly send Enterprise there without a warning that the station will take a crew member, would they? ?UNLESS, they were from the species that created the station and needed to be certain that the station was properly "staffed"?? ?OR from a species that didn't value the life of its crewmembers, I guess.

BTW, why Travis? ?What special knowledge did he have? ?Wouldn't it have been better to take Trip or someone else from engineering?

I saw someone wrote they wished the station didn't look so TNG. ?But couldn't it have been built by a more advanced species who travel the galaxies and tried to make sure there is a repair station for its own people. ?They offer their services to others to make sure it is properly staffed when they (the builders) need it.

It was the Tellarites that told Archer about the station, and seeing as how they were at war with the Andorians at the time, which shows that they didn't have the level of tech that high (not to mention that they were also one of the founding races of the Federation), they couldn't have built the station in any way shape or form.

Agree. I prefer to believe that this was a lead-in precurser to "Spocks Brain"... (although a light-years better episode)

I agree with you Yanks. After thinking about this and remembering reading your post earlier, I have came to this conclusion - it is very likely that the Eymorg race could have built the station.

Here is some supporting facts:

(1) The Eymorg controller

Quote
(The Enterprise is at Red Alert as an alien vessel approaches them.)
SULU: Phaser banks standing by, sir.
CHEKOV: Range forty three thousand and closing.
KIRK: What do you read, Mister Spock?
SPOCK: Configuration unidentified. Ion propulsion, high velocity, though of a unique technology.
...
KIRK: Well, Scotty?
SCOTT: It beats me, but isn't she a beauty?
KIRK: Interesting design.
SCOTT: I've never seen anything like her. And ion propulsion at that. They could teach us a thing or two.


(3) The Eymorg race technological advance enough to build an AI to maintain itself and acquire a brain. Some of the knowledge in the teacher could have used to build the station's AI. We know the medical (surgical and biological knowledge) and scientific (propulsion, space vessel design) portion of the Teacher's knowledge base. When it comes to Computer Science, I would not be surprise that the teacher is a strong candidate to choose as the source of knowledge to create the station's AI.

Thanks Bro, and congrats on 10000. :cool:

Seems logical, but the bashers are always looking for something to bash, so not identifying them is an easy target I guess.

Thanks Yanks. I enjoy a good mystery as long as my favorite characters are okay.  :)

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Report this Sep. 19 2009, 1:31 pm

I like the Spocks Brain connection. Definitely a race capable of building the station and the AI that runs it.

I also think this has been a great thread!

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