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Should Spock's death have been permanent?

Ali88

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 12:20 pm

Nicholas Meyer, who wrote and directed TWOK, was offered to write the screenplay for Star Trek III but declined cause he felt Spock's death should have been permanent

Do you agree with him?

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 12:36 pm

NO Way! :)

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 1:19 pm

No, Spock should not have been killed. What I did not understand was the fact that there were not environmental suits available for the Engineering crew to suit up and try to repair sections of engineering like the compartment that Spock died in :question:

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 1:21 pm

Quote (BrotherofShran01 @ Sep. 11 2009, 6:19 pm)
No, Spock should not have been killed. What I did not understand was the fact that there were not environmental suits available for the Engineering crew to suit up and try to repair sections of engineering like the compartment that Spock died in :question:

They did have oven gloves though  :O
:laugh:

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 6:47 pm

If they had to kill him off then, yes. Sure we don't want cool characters to be dead. However, Weird and crazy ways of bringing people back to life after they die are just... too bizarre and can end up being kind of stupid.
Besides it was a pretty cruel thing to do to Bones, when you think about it. Would Spock have been that mean?

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 7:49 pm

In my opinion, Spock's permanent death would have meant the premature death of Star Trek.

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 8:49 pm

If Spock's death had been permanent, it may have made TWOK a more powerful individual film (although it's fantastic either way), but it would have deprived us of the great "trilogy" follow-ups of TSFS and TVH.

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 9:15 pm

Quote (Vger23 @ Sep. 13 2009, 10:49 am)
If Spock's death had been permanent, it may have made TWOK a more powerful individual film (although it's fantastic either way), but it would have deprived us of the great "trilogy" follow-ups of TSFS and TVH.

Exactly.

Star Trek is ALL about Kirk and Spock; no Spock = No Star Trek

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Report this Sep. 12 2009, 10:26 pm

I'm glad he didn't stay dead, but as a rule I hate story lines where characters don't stay dead.  I'm kinda wishy washy on this one.  At the time I thought it was a cop out.

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Report this Sep. 13 2009, 9:29 am

The "No" is winning by a bigtime landslide, and for good reason. ?If it weren't for Spock, heh...you wouldn't have half as much fun watching TOS films, now would you?

Much the same way I felt after watching Data being deactivated in Nemesis, sorry for the spoiler, but without Data, TNG would go down the tubes for about the same reason.

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Report this Sep. 13 2009, 10:45 am

Well yes death is permanent. I mean it's like Kirk in generations.  He died and can't be brought back to life.

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Report this Sep. 13 2009, 1:17 pm

According to Shatners Trek Movie Memorise book, they had every intention of killing off Spock permanently in TWOK, because Nimoy didn't want to have anything to do with the franchise any more (due to disagreements between him and GR about the use of his character), and it was the only way they could get him in the movie. But, if you go by everything in that book, Nimoy enjoyed working TWOK so much that by the time they were ready to do Spocks death scene he was having serious second thoughts about it. Hense some of the reasoning behind the decition to bring Spock back in TSFS.

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Report this Sep. 15 2009, 2:28 am

Quote (tribblenator999 @ Sep. 13 2009, 10:45 am)
Well yes death is permanent. I mean it's like Kirk in generations. ¿He died and can't be brought back to life.

he was in the books, by William Shatner in fact. Not to bad book of a book either. yes I know, not canon, but still it worked, could be turned into something canon if they wanted to.

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Report this Sep. 15 2009, 3:00 am

Wasn't he resurrected by the Borg or some shit?

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Report this Sep. 15 2009, 3:57 am

Quote (Camorite @ Sep. 14 2009, 1:17 am)
According to Shatners Trek Movie Memorise book, they had every intention of killing off Spock permanently in TWOK, because Nimoy didn't want to have anything to do with the franchise any more (due to disagreements between him and GR about the use of his character), and it was the only way they could get him in the movie. But, if you go by everything in that book, Nimoy enjoyed working TWOK so much that by the time they were ready to do Spocks death scene he was having serious second thoughts about it. Hense some of the reasoning behind the decition to bring Spock back in TSFS.

According to the DVD special features, Harve Bennett said that they did intend to kill of Spock because Nimoy wanted out of Star Trek. However, when they showed the movie to a test audience, they were against the idea of killing Spock. So they inserted the mind meld scene with the intent of leaving an opening for the possibility to bring Spock back.

According to William Shatner's interview, he was unaware of the intention to bring Spock back.

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