The ACORN scandal

RomanLion

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Report this Sep. 11 2009, 6:41 am

Yup, the crazy right wing is salivating over this one..

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/10/acorn.prostitution/

Two employees at the Baltimore, Maryland, branch of the liberal community organizing group ACORN were caught on tape allegedly offering advice to a pair posing as a pimp and prostitute on setting up a prostitution ring and evading the IRS.

The video footage -- which has been edited and goes to black in some areas -- was recorded and and posted online Thursday by James O'Keefe, a conservative activist. He was joined on the video by another conservative, Hannah Giles, who posed as the prostitute in the filmmakers' undercover sting.

The video shows the pair approaching two women working at the ACORN Baltimore office and asking them for advice on how to set up a prostitution ring involving more than a dozen underage girls from El Salvador.

One of the ACORN workers suggests that Giles refer to herself as a "performing artist" on tax forms and declare some of the girls as dependents to receive child tax credits.

"Stop saying prostitution," the woman, identified by the filmmaker as an ACORN tax expert, tells Giles. The other woman tells them, "You want to keep them clean ... make sure they go to school."  Watch tape of alleged advice on prostitution ¿

Both women appear enthusiastic to help.

Calls to ACORN's Baltimore offices were not immediately returned Thursday. A local spokeswoman told The Associated Press that both employees seen in the video were fired.

"The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at 'gotcha journalism,' " said Scott Levenson, a spokesman at ACORN's national offices. "This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further."

The conservative filmmakers unsuccessfully attempted similar ruses at the group's offices in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Los Angeles, California, and New York, Levenson said.

Law enforcement officials in the Baltimore area wouldn't confirm whether they are investigating the alleged incident at the local ACORN office. However, authorities said that under Maryland law, such undercover video may not be admissible in court as evidence.

CNN attempted to reach O'Keefe and Giles; O'Keefe was not available for comment and Giles canceled an interview scheduled for Thursday.

ACORN -- an acronym for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -- made headlines last year when Republican groups seized on allegations of voter registration fraud by the group in Florida and several other states, claiming its workers were trying to push the election in Barack Obama's favor.

On Wednesday, arrest warrants were issued for 11 Florida voter registration workers suspected of submitting false information on hundreds of voter registration cards, according to court documents. The Florida investigation was triggered by ACORN officials who noticed irregularities in forms they were receiving.

Here's the video!

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Report this Sep. 11 2009, 6:55 am

I agree, the right wing is going to have a field day with this one. ACORN has a definite problem. It is attempting to reach out to several communities of interst in an effort to organize the unorganized. This involves trying to get a lot of people involved in the political effort. So, they can have hundreds of people of a saintly character working for them that the media is going to ignore. Yet, if one or two of their raw recruits is caught exercising bad judgement all hell breaks loose and the so-called liberal media gets in on the act of embarrasing ACORN.

I think the basic mission of ACORN is good and honorable. It is my understanding that the offending parties have been fired and are no longer associated with ACORN. It should also be pointed out that had the journalists been law enforcement officials this would have clearly been a case of entrapment. ACORN clearly does not condone or encourage this type of conduct and should not be smeared because of it.

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Report this Sep. 11 2009, 7:04 am

Quote (caltrek @ Sep. 11 2009, 6:55 am)
I agree, the right wing is going to have a field day with this one. ACORN has a definite problem. It is attempting to reach out to several communities of interst in an effort to organize the unorganized. This involves trying to get a lot of people involved in the political effort. So, they can have hundreds of people of a saintly character working for them that the media is going to ignore. Yet, if one or two of their raw recruits is caught exercising bad judgement all hell breaks loose and the so-called liberal media gets in on the act of embarrasing ACORN.

I think the basic mission of ACORN is good and honorable. It is my understanding that the offending parties have been fired and are no longer associated with ACORN. It should also be pointed out that had the journalists been law enforcement officials this would have clearly been a case of entrapment. ACORN clearly does not condone or encourage this type of conduct and should not be smeared because of it.

Well, fromwhat I've read, these two activists went to a bunch of ACORN offices trying to carry out this scam before they found someone who would bite.

But what I've seen on Townhall, ACORN is the commie hiding under every bed on the right.

caltrek

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Report this Sep. 11 2009, 7:08 am

:laugh:

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Report this Oct. 09 2009, 9:43 pm

Quote (caltrek @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:55 am)
I agree, the right wing is going to have a field day with this one. ACORN has a definite problem. It is attempting to reach out to several communities of interst in an effort to organize the unorganized. This involves trying to get a lot of people involved in the political effort. So, they can have hundreds of people of a saintly character working for them that the media is going to ignore. Yet, if one or two of their raw recruits is caught exercising bad judgement all hell breaks loose and the so-called liberal media gets in on the act of embarrasing ACORN.

I think the basic mission of ACORN is good and honorable. It is my understanding that the offending parties have been fired and are no longer associated with ACORN. It should also be pointed out that had the journalists been law enforcement officials this would have clearly been a case of entrapment. ACORN clearly does not condone or encourage this type of conduct and should not be smeared because of it.

I hope there is a lawsuit.

That would be fun to watch.

I think it's going away though.

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Report this Oct. 09 2009, 9:47 pm

You know, if you put "prostitution" the IRS doesnt care.

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Quote (Cruervo @ Oct. 09 2009, 1:47 pm)
You know, if you put "prostitution" the IRS doesnt care.

It's not a crime on the federal level. Only states and below outlaw it. The exact opposite of Marijuana. Both should be legal everywhere.

And Kosh really has gone off the deep end.

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Report this Oct. 10 2009, 10:39 am

Not that I expect that anybody who has already made up their mind about ACORN to be swayed by this:

"Right-wing media's ACORN attacks rely on numerous falsehoods

Media aired filmmakers' false claim that every ACORN office was complicit in fake prostitution scheme. Hannah Giles and James O'Keefe, the conservative filmmakers who made the widely circulated ACORN videos in which they posed as prostitute and pimp, as well as Andrew Breitbart and Mike Flynn, who have been promoting the videos for BigGovernment.com, have claimed in media interviews that the filmmakers were never rebuffed by any of the ACORN offices they visited in their attempts to get ACORN to assist them in improper activities.

Police report shows that Philadelphia ACORN Housing office called cops. Contrary to statements by Giles, O'Keefe, Breitbart, and BigGovernment.com editor-in-chief Mike Flynn, Katherine Conway Russell, ACORN Housing Corp.'s Philadelphia office director, stated that O'Keefe visited the office '[l]ast July' with 'another woman.' Russell stated that '[a]fter asking several general questions, [O'Keefe] began to veer off into suspicious territory.' Russell said that O'Keefe eventually 'asked about bringing girls from El Salvador and getting them papers, et cetera,' but that 'I told them that there was nothing we could do to help them, that I didn't know anything about what they were asking about.' Russell also said that after she contacted another ACORN official and it became clear that O'Keefe 'lied to get his appointment,' they contacted the police. ACORN Housing also released a copy of the Philadelphia police report.

LA Times media columnist reported ACORN employee saw 'red flags' when filmmaker refused her suggestion to go to battered women's shelter. Additionally, Los Angeles Times media critic James Rainey reported that ACORN official Lavelle Stewart 'told me this week' that when O'Keefe and Giles came to Stewart's ACORN office in Los Angeles disguised as a pimp and prostitute, Stewart 'tried to get the 'prostitute,' who claimed she had been beaten by her pimp, to go to a women's center.' Rainey continued: 'The fact she was not taking the help I offered her made me think something was not right,' Stewart said. 'It raised a red flag.'

San Diego ACORN official also reported duo to police following encounter. In a September 22 article, the Associated Press reported that California police said an ACORN worker contacted them about 'possible human smuggling.'

Filmmaker reportedly promised to release Philadelphia video, but no such video has been released yet. On the September 27 edition of Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace stated that 'O'Keefe wants to set the record straight. ... And he says he'll release all the tapes soon to show if any ACORN offices did the right thing.' Wallace then added, 'Why not release all the tapes at the start?' and proceeded to air video of O'Keefe saying, 'We knew that they would lie and they would say, 'Oh, you've got nothing,' or 'You're dubbing your voice in.' But you release a little bit at a time, and they get caught in their lie.' However, O'Keefe has not publicly released the Philadelphia tape as he reportedly promised.

Media highlighted ACORN employee's claim to have killed her ex-husband, even though ex-husbands are alive and well. On September 15 and 16, Fox News devoted significant programming to O'Keefe and Giles' video of their interactions with an ACORN worker who claimed she murdered her ex-husband and gave advice on how to run a brothel, but stated after the video was released that she had merely been attempting to 'shock them as much as they were shocking me.' In running with the video, Fox News hosts frequently promoted the fake claim that the ACORN employee killed her ex-husband without fact-checking the allegation or indicating that they had contacted ACORN for a response. In fact, in a September 15 news release, which was repeatedly ignored by Fox News, the San Bernardino Police Department stated that the employee's claim that she shot and killed her ex-husband 'do[es] not appear to be factual'.

Hannity falsely claimed ACORN is 'scheduled to get $8.5 billion' in 'taxpayer dollars.' On September 15, Hannity claimed that ACORN is 'scheduled to get $8.5 billion -- taxpayer dollars.' As PolitiFact.com has noted, the claim that ACORN will receive $8.5 billion is false.

Media falsely claimed that Obama official Gaspard worked with ACORN. After Matthew Vadum wrote in The American Spectator that '[e]vidence shows that years before he joined the Obama administration,' White House political affairs director Patrick Gaspard 'was ACORN boss Bertha Lewis's political director in New York,' Hannity, Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy, Beck, and The Fox Nation seized on the blog post, asserting that -- in Hannity's words -- 'ACORN has somebody on the inside of the White House.' However the Politico's Ben Smith has since reported that the allegation 'just isn't true' and that the White House has denied the American Spectator report. In its reporting, Fox News gave no indication that it attempted to fact-check the Spectator report or contact the White House for a response."

Media Matters

Still, the right-wing got some of what it wanted when Congress passed a bill to defund ACORN. This has given liberal Democratic lawmakers a presumably unanticipated political opening to introduce further legislation that perhaps the right-wing isn't so keen to see passed:

"JEREMY SCAHILL...What we have here are Democrats going out of their way to target an organization that has 500,000 member families and doing almost nothing to go up against the $300 billion-a-year contracting industry that literally is making a killing off of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere, and these are companies that have actual convictions, actual rap sheets. They are companies that are actually corporate felons.

Juan, you mentioned Representative Betty McCollum's legislation, the Against Corporations Organizing to Rip-off the Nation Act of 2009. It's called the ACORN Act. What that would do would be to 'prohibit...the federal government from awarding contracts, grants or other agreements to providing any other federal funds to or engaging in activities that promote certain corporations or companies guilty of certain felony convictions.'

In particular, Betty McCollum targets Pfizer, the massive pharmaceutical company, the maker of the most popular drug in the Senate, Viagra. Pfizer recently settled with the US Justice Department what was described as the largest fraud -healthcare fraud settlement in the history of the US Justice Department. The total fines paid out by Pfizer were almost $3 billion - with a 'b' - $3 billion for fraud, for mislabeling or mismarketing the purposes of an anti-inflammatory drug called Bexstra. They had to settle with various states' Medicare programs for fraud. Yet, this is a company that received in 2007 $77 million in US government contracts. Betty McCollum's legislation would seek to prevent this, would seek to stop it, because what you're seeing is that when the -even though the Justice Department settled with Pfizer and this massive amount of money was paid, it's really nothing to Pfizer in the broader sense of it, because Pfizer makes $40 billion a year in profits. Just in profits.

So, you know, in closing on this, Juan, what I would say is you have an effort now on the part of Betty McCollum, of Bernie Sanders - I know that there's other legislation that's going to address Blackwater that's going to come out of the House in the next two weeks or so - and you have them actually calling the question, not only on the Republicans that are targeting this community organization ACORN, but on the Democrats who vote to defund ACORN and do very little, if nothing, to go after actual corporate felons, corporate criminals, with very long rap sheets.

JUAN GONZALEZ: And Jeremy, what about some of the defense contractors and their judgments or their convictions for fraud?

JEREMY SCAHILL: Right...of the top ten defense contractors, a full ten of them have been convicted of some form of fraud, waste or abuse in the last several years. The top three - Boeing, Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin - are all corporate criminals. These companies combined make about $100 billion a year. And it's just - ¿it's incredible. They have a massive share of the war industry market. And when they pay out these fines, it's just sort of the cost of doing business.

And, you know, Lockheed Martin is basically like a parallel government to the US government. It's in every aspect of society. It's just a massive corporation. And it also gives a lot of campaign contributions and spends a lot of money lobbying.

You know, Pfizer, the company I was just mentioning, spent $11 million lobbying last - this year already, and we're not - the year's not even over. They've spent $11 million lobbying. They pour money into the campaign coffers of Democrats and Republicans alike.

You know, people talk about an election scandal, Juan, with ACORN. Here's the real election scandal in this country. These corporations make millions and billions of dollars from US taxpayer money. They use the Treasury as an ATM. They then funnel that money back into the campaign war chest of the politicians that are going to then ultimately shield them from any kind of accountability. It's a very disturbing reality, I think, but it shows how politics work in this country.

And you know it as well as anyone, Juan, that the Democrats now are the largest recipient of defense industry dollars in the campaigns, 52 percent during the '08 cycle. They're on course right now to increase that to 60 percent of all contributions from the defense industry in the 2010 election cycle going to the Democrats.

So, you know, you could have the Justice Department going after them for these fines. You can have all sorts of regulations and rules put in place. These are recidivists. And the only way to actually stop them is to cut them off. And fortunately, there are a few Democrats in the House that seem to understand that right now, maybe one or two in the Senate. But this is certainly something that people around the country can weigh in on with their various representatives."

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Report this Oct. 10 2009, 10:56 am

Acorn....rotten to the core. :p

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Report this Oct. 10 2009, 11:25 am

They should change their name to AHOLES

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Report this Oct. 10 2009, 1:56 pm

In the video cited by Tommy Boy, reference is made to several investigations into voter registration fraud that ACORN has been charged with. Here is the part these conservative pundits do not tell you about that story:

"Dropped down the memory hole is the fact that ACORN was at the center of the so-called 'prosecutor-gate' scandal, when the Bush administration pressured U.S. Attorneys to bring indictments over the grassroots group's voter-registration drives and then fired some prosecutors who resisted what they viewed as a partisan strategy not supported by solid evidence.

...a stark example of how Republicans - aided by the giant megaphone of the right-wing media - continue to keep Democrats on the defensive, while evidence of Republican guilt gets little sustained attention except at a handful of Internet sites.

That pattern holds true even for issues connected to ACORN.

For instance, much less media interest followed the House Judiciary Committee's August release of Bush administration e-mails related to the role that Rove and other Bush administration officials played in the firings of nine U.S. attorneys amid a Republican effort to target ACORN's voter- registration work during the 2004 presidential election between President George W. Bush and Sen. John Kerry.

Two of the nine U.S. Attorneys who were fired in 2006 were targeted because they refused to bring criminal charges against individuals affiliated with ACORN. The firing of another U.S. Attorney was due, in large part, to his refusal to convene a grand jury and secure a voter-fraud indictment against individuals, some of who were affiliated with ACORN.

In a May 2, 2005, Rove deputy Scott Jennings sent to another Rove protege Tim Griffin an e-mail, which said that in the fall of 2004, Bernalillo County's Republican Sheriff Darren White and Pat Rogers and Mickey Barnett, Republican Party operatives in New Mexico, turned over hundreds of 'suspected fraudulent voter registration forms' handled by ACORN workers. The e-mail was also forwarded to Leslie Fahrenkopf, Bush's associate counsel.

In 2004, New Mexico was considered a swing state in the Bush-Kerry race and Bernalillo County had been targeted by ACORN for a major grassroots effort to register voters, which resulted in about 65,000 newly registered voters, many of who were low-income and minorities who tend to vote for Democrats.

Sheriff White challenged the integrity of some of the names on the voter registration rolls, according to then-New Mexico U.S. Attorney David Iglesias in his book, In Justice: Inside ?the Scandal that Rocked the Bush Administration. White held a press conference along with other Republican officials in the county to call attention to the matter.

'The purported examples that were then produced included a woman who had correctly filled out two different registrations with slightly different signatures and another in which a husband, with his wife's permission, had signed her name to the form,' Iglesias wrote. 'It was demanded that I take action against what was perceived as rampant abuse of the system.'

Scant Evidence

Iglesias said he established an election fraud task force in September 2004 and spent more than two months probing claims of widespread voter fraud in his state. In testimony before a Senate committee in 2007, Iglesias said the task force received about 108 complaints of alleged voter fraud through a hotline over the course of about eight weeks.

'Most of the complaints made to the hotline were clearly not prosecutable ? citizens would complain of their yard signs being removed from their property and de minimis matters like that,' Iglesias testified.

'Only one case of the over 100 referrals had potential. ACORN had employed a woman to register voters. The evidence showed she registered voters who did not have the legal right to vote. The law, 42 USC 1973 had the maximum penalty of 5 years imprisonment and a $5,000 fine.

'After personally reviewing the FBI investigative report and speaking to the agent, the prosecutor I had assigned, Mr. [Rumaldo] Armijo, and conferring with [a Justice Department official] I was of the opinion that the case was not provable. I, therefore, did not authorize a prosecution.

'I have subsequently learned that the State of New Mexico did not file any criminal cases as a result of the' election fraud task force.

Iglesias said Republican officials in his state were far less interested in election reforms and more intent on suppressing votes. He wrote in his book that the Justice Department issued a directive to every U.S. Attorney in the country to find and prosecute cases of voter fraud in their states during the height of hotly contested elections in 2002, 2004, and 2006, even though evidence was thin or non-existent.

During this period, ACORN had stepped up its voter registration efforts and boasted in press releases about registering tens of thousands of first-time voters.

Iglesias said in late summer 2002 he received an e-mail from the Justice Department suggesting 'in no uncertain terms' that U.S. Attorneys should immediately begin working with local and state election officials 'to offer whatever assistance we could in investigating and prosecuting voter fraud cases.'

Other pressure also came from congressional and state Republicans. In New Mexico, Barnett, Rogers ?White were among Republican operatives who complained directly to Rove at the White House and to officials in Bush's Justice Department that Iglesias would not prosecute ACORN employees. These unhappy Republicans demanded that Iglesias be replaced.

According to a report by the Justice Department's inspector general released last year, 'In a March 2006 e-mail forwarded to [Craig] Donsanto in the [Justice Department's] Public Integrity Section, Rogers complained about voter fraud in New Mexico and added, 'I have calls in, to the USA [U.S. Attorney] and his main assistant, but they were not much help during the ACORN fraudulent registration debacle last election.'

In June 2006, Rogers sent Iglesias's Executive Assistant U.S. Attorney Rumaldo Armijo an e-mail, which said, 'The voter fraud wars continue. Any indictment of the Acorn woman would be appreciated. . . . The ACLU/Wortheim [sic] democrats will turn to the camera and suggest fraud is not an issue, because the USA would have done something by now. Carpe Diem!' [Carpe Diem is translated, ?seize the day.?]

Despite positive job reports, Iglesias was fired in December 2006 as part of a purge of nine federal prosecutors who were deemed not 'loyal Bushies' or had other supposed shortcomings.

Last August, Rove went on Fox News to downplay his role in Iglesias's firing, but acknowledged that he did pass on complaints to the Bush Justice Department about 'the performance of the U.S. Attorney in New Mexico, that he failed to go after ACORN in clear cases of vote fraud?'

Expanded Warfare

But the Republican war against ACORN didn't stop with Iglesias.

In Missouri, former U.S. Attorney Todd Graves was another federal prosecutor who fell into disfavor with the Bush administration because of alleged inaction on ACORN and voter fraud issues.

Graves would not file criminal charges of voter fraud against four employees of ACORN, according to documents later released by the Justice Department in connection with the fired-prosecutors probe.

Graves also resisted pressure from Bradley Schlozman, head of the Bush Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, to file a lawsuit against Robin Carnahan, Missouri's Democratic Secretary of State, on charges that Carnahan failed to take action on cases of voter fraud, Graves testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2007.

Graves was forced to resign in March 2006 and was replaced by Schlozman as Missouri's acting U.S. Attorney. Schlozman then filed the civil suit against Carnahan.

The case was later dismissed by a federal court judge who ruled, 'The United States has not shown that any Missouri resident was denied his or her right to vote as a result of deficiencies alleged by the United States. Nor has the United States shown that any voter fraud has occurred.'

Schlozman also filed federal criminal charges of voter registration fraud against members of ACORN five days before the November 2006 mid-term elections. Schlozman came under criticism for breaking with longstanding Justice Department policy against bringing voting related charges so close to an election.

Schlozman testified before a Senate committee in 2007 that he received approval to file the voter registration fraud charges from a Justice Department ethics official. He later changed his testimony, was accused of perjury and was the subject of a federal investigation. The Justice Department, however, recently declined to prosecute Schlozman on allegations that he lied to Congress."

For more of the news story:

The Public Record

Cruervo

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Report this Oct. 10 2009, 5:11 pm

I dont care what their beliefs are, what religion they are, or what their official missions are. Organizations at all ends of the political spectrum like this freak me the #### out. Like when my mom was asking for a good church and was taken to the "Ranch"... :O

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Report this Oct. 10 2009, 5:18 pm

First rule of posting on forums.

If you post more than five or six pages in one post, it's probably not going to get read.

We're all suffering from ADHD. :cool:

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Report this Oct. 10 2009, 5:20 pm

Quote (Alisium @ Oct. 09 2009, 6:18 pm)
First rule of posting on forums.

If you post more than five or six pages in one post, it's probably not going to get read.

We're all suffering from ADHD. :cool:

What?  :laugh:

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Report this Oct. 10 2009, 9:52 pm

The Obama administration freek show continues.

NAMBLA lovers, ACORN scandal.

Prez goes before the olympic committee without a deal  

already made and looks like the arrogant idiot he is.

Prez gets the Nobel Peace Prize for being the America

hating liberal he is.

Health care bill that if passed will destroy freedom

and will surely put Republicans back in power.

Dingbat for speaker of the house.

Tax cheats

Girly pants and a very sissy baseball pitch.

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