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> id="QUOTE">:laugh:  :laugh:  Why not the force.  :question: Got to love you dryson just when it think you have gone as far as crazy would allow, you find a way to zoom right past that point........

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Report this Sep. 29 2009, 12:35 am

Makes a bit more sense now... what I can understand at least.

Thanks!!!

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Report this Apr. 06 2010, 4:34 am

Cern LHC sees high-energy success

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8593780.stm

"energy is packed into a comparatively few particles, travelling at more than 99.99% of the speed of light"

Is that mean:
Time will slow down when particles are travelling in 99.99% of speed of light (time travel paradox)?

If data is submitted through this machine, can data of today travel through time and space?

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Report this Apr. 06 2010, 5:02 pm

Quote (servantx @ April 05 2010, 5:34 am)
Cern LHC sees high-energy success

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8593780.stm

"energy is packed into a comparatively few particles, travelling at more than 99.99% of the speed of light"

Is that mean:
Time will slow down when particles are travelling in 99.99% of speed of light (time travel paradox)?

If data is submitted through this machine, can data of today travel through time and space?

information, via electromagnetic signal alway travel at C no matter what the time dilation the particle is under going. No paradox at all unless an other observer in a different inertial frame is also observing the experiments, then you end up with several of the famous paradoxes dealing with synchronicity, such as the train paradox.

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Report this Apr. 06 2010, 6:14 pm

Sorry your above remark is purely semantical and does not relate to anything more than stating that if you go the speed of light in one direction that you will eventually return to the place that you started the journey from.

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Report this Apr. 07 2010, 2:30 pm

Quote (dryson @ April 05 2010, 7:14 pm)
Sorry your above remark is purely semantical and does not relate to anything more than stating that if you go the speed of light in one direction that you will eventually return to the place that you started the journey from.

pot calling the kettle black, and also that is not what i said.

What i said is that Relativity state, no information can be transmitted Faster than light. Light travel always at the same speed away from a object no matter how fast it goes. So there is no paradox, when there are two observer, but maintaining a constant velocities.

The paradox emerges from multiple observers and from observers that change velocities.

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Report this Apr. 08 2010, 3:35 pm

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pot calling the kettle black, and also that is not what i said.

What i said is that Relativity state, no information can be transmitted Faster than light. Light travel always at the same speed away from a object no matter how fast it goes. So there is no paradox, when there are two observer, but maintaining a constant velocities.

The paradox emerges from multiple observers and from observers that change velocities.


There is no paradox that ensues because of the observers. If a starship is traveling at warp one and one observer is watching the starship accelerate to warp one at 5 km away and the second observer is watching the same starship accelerate to warp one but is closer to the travel path of the starship which one will see it first? Observer A will see the ship first because they have a wider field of view whereas observer B will only see the starship for a brief period before it passes out of it's view. Regardless of which position the starship traveling at c is viewed from the starship will still be traveling at c. It may appear that the starship is traveling slower when observed from position A when compared to position B because of the ability of the observers at position A being able to watch the starship travel at c for the entirety of the run, The observers at position B will only be able to see the starship streak by without them being able to see it from the starting point and being able to watch it it's entire run. It's not a matter of prespective or how you want to see things it is a matter of distance and being able to take in a wider field of view. There is no paradox, only in dogma is there a paradox.

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Report this Apr. 08 2010, 4:18 pm

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Report this Apr. 08 2010, 8:26 pm

Quote (dryson @ April 07 2010, 6:48 pm)
:laugh: ¿:laugh: ¿Why not the force. ¿:question: Got to love you dryson just when it think you have gone as far as crazy would allow, you find a way to zoom right past that point........


Sure, I'm not the one who believes that if you travel fast enough in a wormhole you can magically arrive in the past of a planet.
No if you move the mouth of a wormhole fast enought, and travel thru it... Big different!! :cool:  ;)

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