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Sep. 10 2009, 8:55 am
| Quote (brcarthey @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:46 am) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 09 2009, 7:00 pm) | I agree there should have been more children.
Being lost in hostile space should have been very high stress on the crew. As most know sharing the burden by coupling up is a one of the best stress relievers. There should have been a baby boom on Voyager.
..but I guess that's asking for to much realism on a sci-fi adventure show |
i'm sure a lot that coupling went on, but being in the hostile environment that voyager was in don't you think it would be reasonable that many would have been weary of introducing children to that environment. ¿therefore, a natural course of action would've been to use a starfleet-issued prophylactic. |
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Sep. 10 2009, 9:16 am
| Quote (brcarthey @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:46 am) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 09 2009, 7:00 pm) | I agree there should have been more children.
Being lost in hostile space should have been very high stress on the crew. As most know sharing the burden by coupling up is a one of the best stress relievers. There should have been a baby boom on Voyager.
..but I guess that's asking for to much realism on a sci-fi adventure show |
i'm sure a lot that coupling went on, but being in the hostile environment that voyager was in don't you think it would be reasonable that many would have been weary of introducing children to that environment. ¿therefore, a natural course of action would've been to use a starfleet-issued prophylactic. |
If it had been a seventy year journey, they'd have had to have had children at some point to finish the journey. Otherwise they'd reach a point where the crew would be too old to run the ship. Better to start early and get them trained before it would be too late. |
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Sep. 10 2009, 5:40 pm
| Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 09 2009, 12:05 am) | | Dr. Gillian Taylor was also transported to the 23rd century, and yet she was able to adapt and even got a position in a Science vessel. |
Good point. |
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Sep. 10 2009, 7:38 pm
| Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 09 2009, 11:05 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:39 am) | I don't agree.
If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. ?Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. ?She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. ?She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too.
Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. ?Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. |
I agree that she would have stayed behind, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
Dr. Gillian Taylor was also transported to the 23rd century, and yet she was able to adapt and even got a position in a Science vessel. |
I'm sorry but...........who?  |
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Sep. 10 2009, 7:42 pm
| Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:38 pm) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 09 2009, 11:05 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:39 am) | I don't agree.
If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. ?Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. ?She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. ?She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too.
Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. ?Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. |
I agree that she would have stayed behind, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
Dr. Gillian Taylor was also transported to the 23rd century, and yet she was able to adapt and even got a position in a Science vessel. |
I'm sorry but...........who? |
Star Trek IV I think. |
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Sep. 10 2009, 7:44 pm
| Quote (scnj @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:42 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:38 pm) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 09 2009, 11:05 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:39 am) | I don't agree.
If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. ?Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. ?She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. ?She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too.
Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. ?Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. |
I agree that she would have stayed behind, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
Dr. Gillian Taylor was also transported to the 23rd century, and yet she was able to adapt and even got a position in a Science vessel. |
I'm sorry but...........who? |
Star Trek IV I think. |
Oh, I barely remember any of the films before TNG. I don't own any of them. |
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Sep. 10 2009, 8:47 pm
| Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 09 2009, 8:44 pm) | | Quote (scnj @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:42 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:38 pm) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 09 2009, 11:05 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:39 am) | I don't agree.
If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. ?Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. ?She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. ?She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too.
Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. ?Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. |
I agree that she would have stayed behind, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
Dr. Gillian Taylor was also transported to the 23rd century, and yet she was able to adapt and even got a position in a Science vessel. |
I'm sorry but...........who? |
Star Trek IV I think. |
Oh, I barely remember any of the films before TNG.
I don't own any of them. |
She was a whale biologist in San Francisco and she traveled with Kirk and Co. back to the future because she said she had to take care of the whales but shipped out on a science vessel. I guess she forgot about George and Gracie. |
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Sep. 10 2009, 8:52 pm
| Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 10 2009, 8:47 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 09 2009, 8:44 pm) | | Quote (scnj @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:42 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:38 pm) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 09 2009, 11:05 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:39 am) | I don't agree.
If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. ?Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. ?She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. ?She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too.
Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. ?Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. |
I agree that she would have stayed behind, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
Dr. Gillian Taylor was also transported to the 23rd century, and yet she was able to adapt and even got a position in a Science vessel. |
I'm sorry but...........who? |
Star Trek IV I think. |
Oh, I barely remember any of the films before TNG.
I don't own any of them. |
She was a whale biologist in San Francisco and she traveled with Kirk and Co. back to the future because she said she had to take care of the whales but shipped out on a science vessel. I guess she forgot about George and Gracie. |
So, we just saw her arrive in the 23th century but we never saw her actually adapt to it. Being on a science vessel wouldn't mean she adapted, it just means she left with them. What happen to her after, we'll never know. |
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Sep. 10 2009, 9:08 pm
| Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 8:52 pm) | | Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 10 2009, 8:47 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 09 2009, 8:44 pm) | | Quote (scnj @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:42 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:38 pm) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 09 2009, 11:05 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:39 am) | I don't agree.
If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. ?Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. ?She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. ?She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too.
Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. ?Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. |
I agree that she would have stayed behind, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
Dr. Gillian Taylor was also transported to the 23rd century, and yet she was able to adapt and even got a position in a Science vessel. |
I'm sorry but...........who? |
Star Trek IV I think. |
Oh, I barely remember any of the films before TNG.
I don't own any of them. |
She was a whale biologist in San Francisco and she traveled with Kirk and Co. back to the future because she said she had to take care of the whales but shipped out on a science vessel. I guess she forgot about George and Gracie. |
So, we just saw her arrive in the 23th century but we never saw her actually adapt to it. ¿Being on a science vessel wouldn't mean she adapted, it just means she left with them. ¿What happen to her after, we'll never know. |
Wasn't she like the Mary Sue character you see in fan fic? She represents the fans, wishing you could beem away with Kirk and company to the 23rd century. |
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Sep. 10 2009, 9:13 pm
| Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 10 2009, 9:08 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 8:52 pm) | | Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 10 2009, 8:47 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 09 2009, 8:44 pm) | | Quote (scnj @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:42 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 7:38 pm) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 09 2009, 11:05 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 10 2009, 12:39 am) | I don't agree.
If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. ?Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. ?She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. ?She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too.
Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. ?Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. |
I agree that she would have stayed behind, but not for the reasons you mentioned.
Dr. Gillian Taylor was also transported to the 23rd century, and yet she was able to adapt and even got a position in a Science vessel. |
I'm sorry but...........who? |
Star Trek IV I think. |
Oh, I barely remember any of the films before TNG.
I don't own any of them. |
She was a whale biologist in San Francisco and she traveled with Kirk and Co. back to the future because she said she had to take care of the whales but shipped out on a science vessel. I guess she forgot about George and Gracie. |
So, we just saw her arrive in the 23th century but we never saw her actually adapt to it. ?Being on a science vessel wouldn't mean she adapted, it just means she left with them. ?What happen to her after, we'll never know. |
Wasn't she like the Mary Sue character you see in fan fic? She represents the fans, wishing you could beem away with Kirk and company to the 23rd century. |
What fun is that if you can't brag about it to your friends? |
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Sep. 10 2009, 9:17 pm
 Guess she didn't plan that far ahead. |
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Sep. 11 2009, 2:28 am
| Quote (scnj @ Sep. 10 2009, 9:16 pm) | | If it had been a seventy year journey, they'd have had to have had children at some point to finish the journey. Otherwise they'd reach a point where the crew would be too old to run the ship. Better to start early and get them trained before it would be too late. |
Yes, Chakotay even mentioned that in an early episode. |
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Sep. 11 2009, 3:05 am
| Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 11 2009, 8:52 am) | | So, we just saw her arrive in the 23th century but we never saw her actually adapt to it. ¿Being on a science vessel wouldn't mean she adapted, it just means she left with them. ¿What happen to her after, we'll never know. |
I think we can take it for granted that she adapted. She was happy in the last scene. |
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Sep. 11 2009, 3:18 am
| Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 10 2009, 4:05 am) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 11 2009, 8:52 am) | | So, we just saw her arrive in the 23th century but we never saw her actually adapt to it. ?Being on a science vessel wouldn't mean she adapted, it just means she left with them. ?What happen to her after, we'll never know. |
I think we can take it for granted that she adapted. She was happy in the last scene. |
Agreed. She even said she had no one here (meaning 1986 San Francisco) when she was arguing with Admiral Kirk. |
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Sep. 12 2009, 11:15 pm
| Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:56 pm) | | Quote (SLagonia @ Sep. 09 2009, 6:38 pm) | | Quote (scnj @ Sep. 08 2009, 9:05 pm) | | Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 09 2009, 5:30 pm) | | Quote (scnj @ Sep. 08 2009, 6:19 pm) | | Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 09 2009, 5:08 pm) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 08 2009, 3:50 pm) | | Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:10 pm) | | Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) | Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted.
I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her  )
I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. |
It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point.
I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes. |
The Borg kids never clicked with fans.
For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children.
I think I'm one of the few exceptions. |
I liked the Borg kids as well. I would have like them to have stayed. |
I think a few more episodes of them attempting to fit in with Seven's help could have been good character building episodes for Seven.
Come to think of it, why weren't there more kids on Voyager? They were expecting a 70 year journey, but no crew members hooked upn and attempted to settle down? Or is there a directive that forbids it? |
The was Naomi. Maybe there were more, we just didn't see them. Also, Tom and B'Elanna's baby was born on Voyager but they had already got home by that time. |
Naomi was conceived before Samantha got on Voyager though. I just find it odd that seven years into what was meant to be a seventy year journey, no crew members had thought to settle down and start a family.
It's just occurred to me because the Enterprise-D had kids everywhere. I mean, they had an on board classroom. |
Well, the Ent-D was sort of a city in space. ?A little different than a long-range explorer like Voyager.
Anyway, I guess it was just really effective birth control, or just a high attrition rate among couples. |
... or lots of time in the holodeck...  |
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