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Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 09 2009, 12:39 pm) Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 10:39 am) Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 07 2009, 1:44 am) Does anyone think that the real Amelia Earhart would have decided to stay on an alien planet rather than joining the crew and learning how to pilot a starship? I don't. I agree. I also think she would have made a very interesting addition to the Voyager crew. I don't agree. If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. ?Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. ?She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. ?She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too. Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. ?Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. Sure, all good reasons for leaving her behind. No problems. Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home.

Yes, I liked the actress too.

Yes, I think picking up folks along the way would have been cool too but remember, Voyager had an unfounded bad reputation. So folks were afraid to trust them.

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Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home.

It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point.

I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes.

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Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point. I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes.

The Borg kids never clicked with fans.

For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children.
I think I'm one of the few exceptions.

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Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:10 pm) Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point. I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes. The Borg kids never clicked with fans. For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children. I think I'm one of the few exceptions.

I liked the Borg kids as well. I would have like them to have stayed.

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Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 08 2009, 3:50 pm) Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:10 pm) Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point. I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes. The Borg kids never clicked with fans. For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children. I think I'm one of the few exceptions. I liked the Borg kids as well. I would have like them to have stayed.

I think a few more episodes of them attempting to fit in with Seven's help could have been good character building episodes for Seven.

Come to think of it, why weren't there more kids on Voyager? They were expecting a 70 year journey, but no crew members hooked upn and attempted to settle down? Or is there a directive that forbids it?

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Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 09 2009, 5:08 pm) Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 08 2009, 3:50 pm) Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:10 pm) Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point. I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes. The Borg kids never clicked with fans. For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children. I think I'm one of the few exceptions. I liked the Borg kids as well. I would have like them to have stayed. I think a few more episodes of them attempting to fit in with Seven's help could have been good character building episodes for Seven. Come to think of it, why weren't there more kids on Voyager? They were expecting a 70 year journey, but no crew members hooked upn and attempted to settle down? Or is there a directive that forbids it?

The was Naomi. Maybe there were more, we just didn't see them. Also, Tom and B'Elanna's baby was born on Voyager but they had already got home by that time.

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Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:50 pm)

Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:10 pm) Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point. I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes. The Borg kids never clicked with fans. For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children. I think I'm one of the few exceptions.

I am one that usually does not like kids on ST, the fact that they had kids on the Galaxy class ships was a bit hard for me to swallow.  That is a pretty dangerous environment to have kids, considering things can turn ugly very fast.

Jake on DS9 was believable since it was a space station, although I did not like the character.  By the time the Dominion war heated up he was over 18 if I remember correctly.  So as a story line it was believable.

Kids on voyager were conceivable considering they were in a very unusal situation.  But saying that I never really liked the Namoi character, although she was less annoying then some of the kids they had on the different series.

Saying all this I actually kind of liked the Icheb character; while he was by no means one of my favorites he had some interesting story lines.  Some people think he was Voyagers Wesley Crusher, but I never found Icheb as annoying as Wesley (one of my least favorite characters in all ST).

Seems they had a tendency to either make the kids supermen or the episodes they were in had a almost cartoonish quality IMO.

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Quote (scnj @ Sep. 08 2009, 6:19 pm) Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 09 2009, 5:08 pm) Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 08 2009, 3:50 pm) Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:10 pm) Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point. I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes. The Borg kids never clicked with fans. For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children. I think I'm one of the few exceptions. I liked the Borg kids as well. I would have like them to have stayed. I think a few more episodes of them attempting to fit in with Seven's help could have been good character building episodes for Seven. Come to think of it, why weren't there more kids on Voyager? They were expecting a 70 year journey, but no crew members hooked upn and attempted to settle down? Or is there a directive that forbids it? The was Naomi. Maybe there were more, we just didn't see them. Also, Tom and B'Elanna's baby was born on Voyager but they had already got home by that time.

Naomi was conceived before Samantha got on Voyager though. I just find it odd that seven years into what was meant to be a seventy year journey, no crew members had thought to settle down and start a family.

It's just occurred to me because the Enterprise-D had kids everywhere. I mean, they had an on board classroom.

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Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 09 2009, 5:30 pm) Quote (scnj @ Sep. 08 2009, 6:19 pm) Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 09 2009, 5:08 pm) Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 08 2009, 3:50 pm) Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:10 pm) Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point. I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes. The Borg kids never clicked with fans. For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children. I think I'm one of the few exceptions. I liked the Borg kids as well. I would have like them to have stayed. I think a few more episodes of them attempting to fit in with Seven's help could have been good character building episodes for Seven. Come to think of it, why weren't there more kids on Voyager? They were expecting a 70 year journey, but no crew members hooked upn and attempted to settle down? Or is there a directive that forbids it? The was Naomi. Maybe there were more, we just didn't see them. Also, Tom and B'Elanna's baby was born on Voyager but they had already got home by that time. Naomi was conceived before Samantha got on Voyager though. I just find it odd that seven years into what was meant to be a seventy year journey, no crew members had thought to settle down and start a family. It's just occurred to me because the Enterprise-D had kids everywhere. I mean, they had an on board classroom.

Well, the Ent-D was sort of a city in space.  A little different than a long-range explorer like Voyager.

Anyway, I guess it was just really effective birth control, or just a high attrition rate among couples.

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Quote (scnj @ Sep. 09 2009, 5:19 pm)

Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 09 2009, 5:08 pm) Quote (exodus201 @ Sep. 08 2009, 3:50 pm) Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:10 pm) Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 2:02 pm) Although, while I liked that TNG episode, I'm sure those folks could have adjusted. I just like the actress, and I'm sure she could have learned how to fly Voyager. (I'm sure Tom or Harry would have loved to teach her ) I always kind of wished they would have picked up more "passengers" along the road home. It would have been interesting to see them trying to adjust. I wish a couple would have gone with Voyager for that reason. But if you think about it, we already had a tie in to the 20th century because of Tom's affinity for it. It might have been overkill at that point. I also wish they had picked up more passengers along the way. Although there was Seven and the Borg Kids, I tend to forget about them sometimes. The Borg kids never clicked with fans. For some reason, Trek fans don't seem to like children. I think I'm one of the few exceptions. I liked the Borg kids as well. I would have like them to have stayed. I think a few more episodes of them attempting to fit in with Seven's help could have been good character building episodes for Seven. Come to think of it, why weren't there more kids on Voyager? They were expecting a 70 year journey, but no crew members hooked upn and attempted to settle down? Or is there a directive that forbids it?

I agree there should have been more children.

Being lost in hostile space should have been very high stress on the crew. ¿As most know sharing the burden by coupling up is a one of the best stress relievers. ¿There should have been a baby boom on Voyager.

..but I guess that's asking for to much realism on a sci-fi adventure show.

ENT-D was a ship to escort Ambassidors and introduce people into the Federation, not for combat.  If the Enterprise is supposed to represent the Federation, then having children on it expresses a feeling of peace and comfort.  There are no beings in the Alpha Quad. at the time powerful enough to threaten that peace. It wasn't until the Borg that Starfleet started to rethink the functions of their ships.  Due to that, ships like the Defiant & Voyager were created.

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