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Sep. 07 2009, 6:19 pm
| Quote (Sara_Paris @ Sep. 06 2009, 6:59 pm) | | Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 07 2009, 3:40 am) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 06 2009, 4:36 am) | | Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 07 2009, 1:44 pm) | | Does anyone think that the real Amelia Earhart would have decided to stay on an alien planet rather than joining the crew and learning how to pilot a starship? I don't. |
I'm more surprised that nobody from the crew opted to stay behind. I would think that maybe at least 5 would. Imagine what a powerful scene that would have been. Showing a few crewmembers staying behind, and giving their hugs and goodbyes to Janeway and Chakotay. |
I agree. Also, I would have liked to have seen what their cities but I am sure there were financial constraints. After all, television episodes don't have the budgets that movies have. |
I was really hoping to see their cities as well. |
That would have been great. |
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Sep. 07 2009, 8:44 pm
| Quote (Lynx677 @ Sep. 07 2009, 12:38 pm) | | Quote (JOYOFVGR @ Sep. 06 2009, 1:08 pm) | | Quote (Lynx677 @ Sep. 07 2009, 11:13 am) | | Quote (Goodchild @ Sep. 06 2009, 3:52 am) | | Lynx, have you ever though that Josh is putting the bait out there for you to bite, proving his point? You need to de-personalise the situation? |
Whatever he's doing, such disgusting behavior isn't allowed on this forum. He's been crossing the line too many times. On any other forum, he would have been banned a long time ago. I mean, just look at his comments! A clear violation of every possible rule.
As for personal issues, this became a personal issue long ago. |
But you just attacked him out of now where in a thread that has nothing to do with you or any character on Voyager. No matter what your history or how you feel about Josh, you are the one out of line here. |
He's been attacking me in the worst possible way in every thread I post in, ruining all attempts to a constructive debate. What I did here was just payback. I've had enough of his behavior and I've have more than enough of the fact that his behavior is accepted. If he's allowed to start conflicts and insult people in the worst possible ways, then everyone must be allowed to do so. |
This post doesn't have jack sh* t to do with you. You've also proven Josh's point, as well as showing no concern for other people here that have asked for the bickering to stop. |
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Sep. 07 2009, 10:25 pm
Excuse me, I came here to discuss the episode "The 37s". Which room is that on?
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Sep. 07 2009, 10:33 pm
| Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 07 2009, 10:25 pm) | | Excuse me, I came here to discuss the episode "The 37s". Which room is that on? |
It's in here somewhere it's just burried under a load of Ten Forward politics.  |
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Sep. 07 2009, 10:40 pm
This is my favorite episode of VOY it is just so cool! |
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Sep. 08 2009, 3:55 am
| Quote (Sara_Paris @ Sep. 08 2009, 10:33 am) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 07 2009, 10:25 pm) | | Excuse me, I came here to discuss the episode "The 37s". Which room is that on? |
It's in here somewhere it's just burried under a load of Ten Forward politics. |
Actually, it's more of Voyager board politics.  |
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Sep. 08 2009, 9:56 am
| Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 07 2009, 3:36 am) | | Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 07 2009, 1:44 pm) | | Does anyone think that the real Amelia Earhart would have decided to stay on an alien planet rather than joining the crew and learning how to pilot a starship? I don't. |
I'm more surprised that nobody from the crew opted to stay behind. I would think that maybe at least 5 would. Imagine what a powerful scene that would have been. Showing a few crewmembers staying behind, and giving their hugs and goodbyes to Janeway and Chakotay. |
see, i was expecting some crewmembers to stay and relieved when no one did. i think you could say that b/c VOY was so new into its journey expectations and hope were still high that the crew would make it home soon. i think having no one stay was more powerful since it showed their trust in a female captain, which reassured the audience that having a female captain was okay too. remember, janeway was the first woman to lead a crew in a trek series so having some of the crew stay would possibly weaken her standing with the audience among the audience and fans. however, y'all are right in that seeing the civilization could've been interesting if for no other reason than to see the similarities and differences. |
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Sep. 08 2009, 9:58 am
| Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 07 2009, 10:25 pm) | | Excuse me, I came here to discuss the episode "The 37s". Which room is that on? |
So talk.  |
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Sep. 08 2009, 3:54 pm
| Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 06 2009, 11:25 pm) | | Excuse me, I came here to discuss the episode "The 37s". Which room is that on? |
I understand that and I apologize for the child who ruined the thread. |
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Sep. 08 2009, 4:28 pm
Havent you all figured out yet that you have to use the other secret Voyager board here that he doesnt know about to have discussions about Voyager without his interruptions?
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Sep. 08 2009, 11:08 pm
| Quote (Goodchild @ Sep. 07 2009, 2:52 am) | | You need to de-personalise the situation? |
Agreed |
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Sep. 09 2009, 12:49 am
| Quote (brcarthey @ Sep. 08 2009, 9:56 pm) | see, i was expecting some crewmembers to stay and relieved when no one did. i think you could say that b/c VOY was so new into its journey expectations and hope were still high that the crew would make it home soon. i think having no one stay was more powerful since it showed their trust in a female captain, which reassured the audience that having a female captain was okay too. ¿remember, janeway was the first woman to lead a crew in a trek series so having some of the crew stay would possibly weaken her standing with the audience among the audience and fans.
however, y'all are right in that seeing the civilization could've been interesting if for no other reason than to see the similarities and differences. |
I don't think any of the crew staying behind would have weakened Janeway's standing whether she was male or female. Gender has nothing to do with it. It's just practicality. |
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Sep. 09 2009, 12:55 am
| Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 09 2009, 3:54 am) | | Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 06 2009, 11:25 pm) | | Excuse me, I came here to discuss the episode "The 37s". Which room is that on? |
I understand that and I apologize for the child who ruined the thread. |
exodus. I'm already talking: Josh, no need for you to apologize. |
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Sep. 09 2009, 1:17 am
| Quote (ssmukhi @ Sep. 08 2009, 1:49 am) | | Quote (brcarthey @ Sep. 08 2009, 9:56 pm) | see, i was expecting some crewmembers to stay and relieved when no one did. i think you could say that b/c VOY was so new into its journey expectations and hope were still high that the crew would make it home soon. i think having no one stay was more powerful since it showed their trust in a female captain, which reassured the audience that having a female captain was okay too. ?remember, janeway was the first woman to lead a crew in a trek series so having some of the crew stay would possibly weaken her standing with the audience among the audience and fans.
however, y'all are right in that seeing the civilization could've been interesting if for no other reason than to see the similarities and differences. |
I don't think any of the crew staying behind would have weakened Janeway's standing whether she was male or female. Gender has nothing to do with it. It's just practicality. |
I agree. I am under the assumption that gender, race, and species have nothing to do with loyalty in the Star Trek universe, at least in Starfleet. Although, some have biases against artificial lifeforms as Lt. Cmdr. Hobson showed in TNG's "Redemption" but he quickly got over it after he realized Data's command abilities. |
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Sep. 09 2009, 12:39 pm
| Quote (Yanks @ Sep. 09 2009, 10:39 am) | | Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Sep. 07 2009, 1:44 am) | | Does anyone think that the real Amelia Earhart would have decided to stay on an alien planet rather than joining the crew and learning how to pilot a starship? I don't. |
I agree. I also think she would have made a very interesting addition to the Voyager crew. |
I don't agree. If TNG "Nutural Zone" is any example, it would be impossable for someone 3 or 4 certuries behind to adjust to life in the 24th century. Everybody she knew and her whole way of life would be gone. She's have no useful skills to do anything anymore, not to mention the culture shock. She has nothing on Voyager or on Earth to return too. Staying behind would have allowed her and her fiance to start their life again almost where it left off. Her skills would skill be useful as she and the others started their own colony. |
