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Lack Of Minority Superheroes

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Report this Aug. 21 2009, 2:12 pm

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In the Spider-man films, NY (and the general population) is a living breathing character in the plot and it integrates into the movie with great form. In the X-movies, the general population is ostracized as fodder and molded to function as needed for the world of mutants to have the setting they need to function in the movies. They are an afterthought and made out to be just another nuisance bad guy .... even by the ACTUAL bad guy, but he at least has a reason to hate them more than anyone.

I feel the same way... I have always felt there were two Marvel universes existing at the same time... One is the Mutant universe where every other person is a mutant... and everyone else is trying to kill them...



Then there is the Spiderman/ Avengers/ Fantastic Four Universe where there are normal humans who deal with day to day issues..

Honestly if a were in the world of the X Men I would be scared to death of Mutants as well...

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Report this Aug. 21 2009, 2:14 pm

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Does Psylocke count as a mainsteam superhero that's also a minority?

I'm not sure I know that Psylocke is supposed be of some Asian descent. I know she was in a couple of the video games and maybe a cartoon I'm sure about the cartoon though. I'm pretty sure she wasn't in any of the movies though.

Psylocke was originally white, Captain Britain's sister. ?Then she was transformed into a psychic ninja of asian looking descent.

Psylocke...

She had a very minor role in X3, which wasnt named ... She was one of the outcasts that met in the abandoned building. She appears in the credits as Psylocke and was played by Mei Melancon

:laugh: ?:laugh:

That was supposed to be psylocke?

I've watched the movie at least three times, and never caught that.

Dude! the purple hair didnt give it away?
Actually I was surprised we didnt see a Green haired Polaris or a Havok nod, with the movie having included Multiple Man....and that they also pulled the "bit part" off with Jubilee in this movie as well

I still don't know who all those Mutants were supposed to be... I've watched that movie maybe 10 times and I own it... But there are just too many...

They call Jubilee by name in the 2nd movie...

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Report this Aug. 21 2009, 3:08 pm

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Does Psylocke count as a mainsteam superhero that's also a minority?

I'm not sure I know that Psylocke is supposed be of some Asian descent. I know she was in a couple of the video games and maybe a cartoon I'm sure about the cartoon though. I'm pretty sure she wasn't in any of the movies though.

Psylocke was originally white, Captain Britain's sister. ?Then she was transformed into a psychic ninja of asian looking descent.

Psylocke...

She had a very minor role in X3, which wasnt named ... She was one of the outcasts that met in the abandoned building. She appears in the credits as Psylocke and was played by Mei Melancon


Wow delegating a rather major X-men character to such a "bit" part. I guess another reason X3 sucked.

Actually according to Ratner there's a debate over whether she really is Psylocke or not.  Ratner says she's not while the the film credits says she is.

Seeing as how she never displayed any telepathic ability and instead came morphing out of a wall, I'm going with "not her".

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Report this Aug. 21 2009, 4:32 pm

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Does Psylocke count as a mainsteam superhero that's also a minority?

I'm not sure I know that Psylocke is supposed be of some Asian descent. I know she was in a couple of the video games and maybe a cartoon I'm sure about the cartoon though. I'm pretty sure she wasn't in any of the movies though.

Psylocke was originally white, Captain Britain's sister. ?Then she was transformed into a psychic ninja of asian looking descent.

Psylocke...

She had a very minor role in X3, which wasnt named ... She was one of the outcasts that met in the abandoned building. She appears in the credits as Psylocke and was played by Mei Melancon


Wow delegating a rather major X-men character to such a "bit" part. I guess another reason X3 sucked.

Actually according to Ratner there's a debate over whether she really is Psylocke or not. ¿Ratner says she's not while the the film credits says she is.

Seeing as how she never displayed any telepathic ability and instead came morphing out of a wall, I'm going with "not her".

I wont speculate on what is actually a canonical deciding factor as to either screen sequence or credits, all I'm saying is that THIS character was listed in the credits as such. I dont remember specifically as I havent watched in a while, but did she morph in alone or with other people?

If with other people, coming in through a wall could be attributed to one of them.....unless of course her telekinetic ability extends to the molecular level which essentially and technically would allow her the ability to pass through a wall.

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Report this Aug. 21 2009, 5:23 pm

OBAMA is a superhero

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Report this Aug. 22 2009, 4:17 pm

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Yeah, but what about the other minority...

Europeans.

I've seen the anti-Euro attitude that goes on in this place, and they don't get much better treatment in comics either.

Farg the French... Fragin Frogs

See what I mean.

:eyesroll:

lol... French women are very sexy... Well actually I find women from every where very sexy... I'm an equal opportunity employer...

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Report this Aug. 22 2009, 4:57 pm

Im an equal opportunity exploiter - I just have to think she's hot enough by my tastes to exploit

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Report this Aug. 22 2009, 5:13 pm

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Im an equal opportunity exploiter - I just have to think she's hot enough by my tastes to exploit

lol

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Report this Aug. 23 2009, 10:00 am

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Does Psylocke count as a mainsteam superhero that's also a minority?

I'm not sure I know that Psylocke is supposed be of some Asian descent. I know she was in a couple of the video games and maybe a cartoon I'm sure about the cartoon though. I'm pretty sure she wasn't in any of the movies though.

Psylocke was originally white, Captain Britain's sister. ?Then she was transformed into a psychic ninja of asian looking descent.

Psylocke...

She had a very minor role in X3, which wasnt named ... She was one of the outcasts that met in the abandoned building. She appears in the credits as Psylocke and was played by Mei Melancon


Wow delegating a rather major X-men character to such a "bit" part. I guess another reason X3 sucked.

Actually according to Ratner there's a debate over whether she really is Psylocke or not. ?Ratner says she's not while the the film credits says she is.

Seeing as how she never displayed any telepathic ability and instead came morphing out of a wall, I'm going with "not her".

I wont speculate on what is actually a canonical deciding factor as to either screen sequence or credits, all I'm saying is that THIS character was listed in the credits as such. I dont remember specifically as I havent watched in a while, but did she morph in alone or with other people?

If with other people, coming in through a wall could be attributed to one of them.....unless of course her telekinetic ability extends to the molecular level which essentially and technically would allow her the ability to pass through a wall.

The "morphing" through the wall ability was a nod towards her Shadow Phasing ability she had for a short time in the comics. She was nearly killed by Sabretooth when he escaped the mansion and Wolverine and Archangel revived her using the Crimson Dawn. This then gave her, the ability to transport distances through shadows.

With Psylocke's subsequent death and resurrection (yet again) this has since been forgotten about.

It should also be noted that Claremont's novel adaptation also has the girl as Psylocke in the Omega gang. In the book, Psylocke survived Phoenix's attack which disintegrated the others...which isn't surprising as Psylocke was one of Claremont's pet female characters.

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Report this Aug. 23 2009, 10:52 am

Claremont was also once of the people out working on their lawn with Stan Lee when Young Jean started showing off for Xavier and Eric's visit

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Report this Aug. 30 2009, 3:55 am

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OBAMA is a superhero

Hero to some but never a Superhero. I still maintain you MUST have superpowers to be a superhero which is why Batman is not a true superhero IMO.

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Report this Aug. 30 2009, 3:59 am

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Report this Aug. 30 2009, 4:00 am

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