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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/12/report-cheney-felt-bush-stopped-taking-advice/

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May 21: Former Vice President Dick Cheney defended Bush administration counterterrorism policies at the conservative American Enterprise Institute (AP Photo)

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WASHINGTON -- Former Vice President Dick Cheney believes his old boss, President George W. Bush, gradually turned away from his advice during their second term in the White House, showing a surprising independence as he started taking more flexible positions on a range of issues, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.

Cheney, often described as the most influential vice president in U.S. history, has been discussing his years in office in informal talks with authors, diplomats, policy experts and past colleagues, the Post said, as he works on a memoir due out in 2011 from Simon & Schuster's Threshold Editions.

Robert Barnett, who negotiated Cheney's book contract, passed word to potential publishers that the memoir would be packed with news, said the article published on the Post Web site, and Cheney himself has said, without explanation, that "the statute of limitations has expired" on many of his secrets.

The book will cover Cheney's long career from chief of staff under President Gerald Ford to vice president under Bush.

"When the president made decisions that I didn't agree with, I still supported him and didn't go out and undercut him," Cheney said, according to Stephen Hayes, his authorized biographer. "Now we're talking about after we've left office. I have strong feelings about what happened. ... And I don't have any reason not to forthrightly express those views."

According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says.

"In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him," Gellman quoted a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. "He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming."

The Post quoted John P. Hannah, Cheney's second-term national security adviser, as saying Cheney remains driven, now as before, by the possibility of terrorists obtaining nuclear weapons from a nation hostile to the U.S.

What is new, Hannah said, is Cheney's readiness to acknowledge "doubts about the main channels of American policy during the last few years," a period encompassing most of Bush's second term.

It'll be interesting to see what Cheney's memoirs will contain.

At least Bush didn't make public spectacles about what people thought of him by creating snitch websites and declaring everyone whose against him potential domestic terrorists.

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At least Bush didn't make public spectacles about what people thought of him by creating snitch websites and declaring everyone whose against him potential domestic terrorists.

No, he just authorized the CIA to listen in on people and then refused to tell Congress who he was listening in on...

That's terrifying.

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The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice...

Red pill or blue pill?

Oh, the suspense.

why the hell didnt the man just run himself?

i loved the part about how he thinks "making concessions to public sentiment"(ie following public opinion) is a "moral weakness"

cuz of course... doing the job the people who voted you into office, voted you in for.. would hardly be the job of the PRESIDENT.. of all people.. LOFL... no.. he has to be above the public... like saddam hussein... now that guy had some morals!.

   

Quote (Avenger_Class2009 @ Aug. 14 2009, 1:40 am)

¿ ¿

lol

Gee, I was wondering how many people would draw crude sexual innuendoes from this...

And now I know.

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Quote (Red_Shirt_Casualty @ Aug. 13 2009, 1:23 pm) At least Bush didn't make public spectacles about what people thought of him by creating snitch websites and declaring everyone whose against him potential domestic terrorists. No, he just authorized the CIA to listen in on people and then refused to tell Congress who he was listening in on...

Oh stop being a hypocrite, Kosh. You supported Bush's actions on those policies more than just about anyone else on this board.

And keep thing in perspective, Bush wasn't listening in on your paid phone sex conversations. Rest assured, I'd say you're pretty safe in that regard.

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Dooooooyyyyyyyy.... Oh stop being a hypocrite, Kosh. You supported Bush's actions on those policies more than just about anyone else on this board. And keep thing in perspective, Bush wasn't listening in on your paid phone sex conversations. Rest assured, I'd say you're pretty safe in that regard.

Obviously, you don't know what a cheap bastard I am... like I'd ever pay for that...

But please, don't go around telling me that you are living in a dictatorship now because the government is abusing the rules in a way you don't like...

Bush went around saying everyone who didn't support the war was "helping the terrorists", putting up pictures of Max Cleland next to Osama, etc.

And yeah, I went along with it (which I regret now) because I had a suspicion the Democrat's hearts weren't in the fight.

But please, please don't go whining because the White House asked for people to submit stories of the kind of BS people are hearing about the health care bill, and act like that was anywhere NEAR the same thing as what Bush did.

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Quote (Avenger_Class2009 @ Aug. 14 2009, 1:40 am) ? ? lol

Barbara probably has the same complaint.  

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Quote (Red_Shirt_Casualty @ Aug. 17 2009, 8:03 am) Dooooooyyyyyyyy.... Oh stop being a hypocrite, Kosh. You supported Bush's actions on those policies more than just about anyone else on this board. And keep thing in perspective, Bush wasn't listening in on your paid phone sex conversations. Rest assured, I'd say you're pretty safe in that regard. Obviously, you don't know what a cheap bastard I am... like I'd ever pay for that... But please, don't go around telling me that you are living in a dictatorship now because the government is abusing the rules in a way you don't like... Bush went around saying everyone who didn't support the war was "helping the terrorists", putting up pictures of Max Cleland next to Osama, etc. And yeah, I went along with it (which I regret now) because I had a suspicion the Democrat's hearts weren't in the fight. But please, please don't go whining because the White House asked for people to submit stories of the kind of BS people are hearing about the health care bill, and act like that was anywhere NEAR the same thing as what Bush did.

What Bush did?

I trust that you are aware of the NSA's continued eavesdropping?

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/07/22-4


"What Bush did" = "What Obama continues to do". We may as well point out that the Echelon system was operational during the Clinton administration.

Don't like the program? Fair enough but let's be sure to point out that the program is still around, despite The Obama's statement to the contrary.

Quote (TheFounder @ Aug. 17 2009, 7:44 pm)

What Bush did? I trust that you are aware of the NSA's continued eavesdropping? http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/07/22-4 "What Bush did" = "What Obama continues to do". We may as well point out that the Echelon system was operational during the Clinton administration. Don't like the program? Fair enough but let's be sure to point out that the program is still around, despite The Obama's statement to the contrary.

No argument there... We've let ourselves get so scared we are tolerating stuff we'd never tolerate 20 years ago...