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Do you want Nimoy back in the next trek movie?

starwarsrcks

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 3:30 pm

that would be good if Shatner came back I don't see what's wrong with bringing someone back from the dead

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 6:11 pm

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Other: Nimoy (or Shatner for that matter) should only be in it if it's an important part of the story.

I don't think Nimoy especially would appear if it was a fluff scene or nothing integral to the storyline.

jn91669, Spock Prime only knows the future of the original timeline...things are already different in the new timeline, so there is no way of knowing if what the elder Spock knows will ever come to pass, or at least happen the same way it did before.

:logical:

I am not talking about events I am talking about technological advancements. Things like quantum torpedos, phaser arrays, bio-neural gel packs, transporting through shields, Borg tech, medical advancements and EMH just to name a few.

That kind of technological knowledge would be very valuable, in fact priceless. There would be no way that the Ferengi, Klingons or Romulans would not try to extract that info from Spock Prime.

Even giving those items would affect the course of the timeline...Spock is almost certainly trying to get the new timeline to progress as closely to the prime timeline as possible.

Besides...the Klingons, Ferengi and Romulans of the 23rd century don't know who Spock Prime is, do they? So how would they know he has such knowledge? Remember to think in linear fashion...

:logical:

I was thinking linear.  I see it ias the crew of the Enterprise know of his existence. When they report the events back to Starfleet and have to explain how Vulcan was sucked into a black hole with red matter, an element that doesn't yet exist in that time line, they are going to explain how it came to be.

Skotty's little friend knows who Spock is, maybe he talks in his sleep. Either way I think that information is going to be hard to keep secret. Think conspiracy theorists.

jn91669

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 6:19 pm

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Other: Nimoy (or Shatner for that matter) should only be in it if it's an important part of the story.

I don't think Nimoy especially would appear if it was a fluff scene or nothing integral to the storyline.

jn91669, Spock Prime only knows the future of the original timeline...things are already different in the new timeline, so there is no way of knowing if what the elder Spock knows will ever come to pass, or at least happen the same way it did before.

:logical:

I am not talking about events I am talking about technological advancements. Things like quantum torpedos, phaser arrays, bio-neural gel packs, transporting through shields, Borg tech, medical advancements and EMH just to name a few.

That kind of technological knowledge would be very valuable, in fact priceless. There would be no way that the Ferengi, Klingons or Romulans would not try to extract that info from Spock Prime.

Well, you're right. ?Spock Prime is very valuable for his knowledge of future history and techology. ?

I imagine he was debriefed by SF after the events of ST XI (and he must have been, he was there at the end at SF headquarters and there would be a lot of questions about just what the hell happened, including how Scotty and Kirk beamed several lightyears onto the Enterprise, where the jellyfish and Narada came from, etc.). ?After that, he probably was given a new identity and allowed to go along with the Vulcan to aid in their founding of a new planet and the reestablishment of their culture. ?

On thinking about it some more, I think a plot could definitely be contrived where Spock Prime could be on the Enterprise as a "consultant/expert" due to his knowledge. ?Say the Romulans showed up earlier after the whole Nero debacle. ?Who knows them better than Ambassador Spock? ?

If they wanted to, I think they could definitely write a good role for Spock Prime in the next film. ?From what they've said though, it doesn't sound like that's going to happen.

What could be very interesting is that there may be spies within the federation who tip off Klingons and the Romulans to Spock's presence and an interesting scenario would be if Spock Prime was kidnapped by those spies.

That is exactly what I was thinking. Since rumor has it that they were talking about ending 12 with a cliffhanger tied into 13. Maybe they can do a Spock prime gets kidnapped in 12 with the Enterprise crew's mission being to rescue him. He gets killed and begins a war between the kidnappers (Romulans or Klingons, preferably Klingon) and the federation for movie 13.

Think of Star Trek doing an epic war on the big screen(not just Big E and two enemies but full on fleet to fleet battle) for 13 that would be amazing.

And if they kill Spock Prime in movie 12 they can give him a hero's death, instead of just forgeting that he has gone back in time and may just wind up fading into the scenery.

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 8:23 pm

Yes to Nimoy returning.

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Report this Jul. 30 2009, 3:25 am

NO! Please do not bring Leonard Nimoy's Spock back into any more sequels. It was a pleasant surprise to see Nimoy reprise his role as Spock (albeit a much older one) in STAR TREK XI, but let's not overdo it. ENTERPRISE and STAR TREK XI have opened up an alternate existence and a new life for Star Trek, and it is time for the new cast to shine in their portrayals as the traditional characters. Sure, Leonard Nimoy will always be remembered as Spock during the Golden Age of Star Trek, but we must accept and get used to the fact that Zachary Quinto is now Spock in this New Age of Star Trek. In other words, New Trek needs weaning from Old Trek.

Besides, having young and old Spocks constantly appearing in the same era would look funny after a while.

P.S. Please do not bring back William Shatner's Kirk either. He is part of Golden Trek history now.

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Report this Jul. 30 2009, 8:04 am

Shatner for Kirk, for one last time!!! :D

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Report this Jul. 30 2009, 11:32 am

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Other: Nimoy (or Shatner for that matter) should only be in it if it's an important part of the story.

I don't think Nimoy especially would appear if it was a fluff scene or nothing integral to the storyline.

jn91669, Spock Prime only knows the future of the original timeline...things are already different in the new timeline, so there is no way of knowing if what the elder Spock knows will ever come to pass, or at least happen the same way it did before.

:logical:

I am not talking about events I am talking about technological advancements. Things like quantum torpedos, phaser arrays, bio-neural gel packs, transporting through shields, Borg tech, medical advancements and EMH just to name a few.

That kind of technological knowledge would be very valuable, in fact priceless. There would be no way that the Ferengi, Klingons or Romulans would not try to extract that info from Spock Prime.

Well, you're right. ?Spock Prime is very valuable for his knowledge of future history and techology. ?

I imagine he was debriefed by SF after the events of ST XI (and he must have been, he was there at the end at SF headquarters and there would be a lot of questions about just what the hell happened, including how Scotty and Kirk beamed several lightyears onto the Enterprise, where the jellyfish and Narada came from, etc.). ?After that, he probably was given a new identity and allowed to go along with the Vulcan to aid in their founding of a new planet and the reestablishment of their culture. ?

On thinking about it some more, I think a plot could definitely be contrived where Spock Prime could be on the Enterprise as a "consultant/expert" due to his knowledge. ?Say the Romulans showed up earlier after the whole Nero debacle. ?Who knows them better than Ambassador Spock? ?

If they wanted to, I think they could definitely write a good role for Spock Prime in the next film. ?From what they've said though, it doesn't sound like that's going to happen.

What could be very interesting is that there may be spies within the federation who tip off Klingons and the Romulans to Spock's presence and an interesting scenario would be if Spock Prime was kidnapped by those spies.

That is exactly what I was thinking. Since rumor has it that they were talking about ending 12 with a cliffhanger tied into 13. Maybe they can do a Spock prime gets kidnapped in 12 with the Enterprise crew's mission being to rescue him. He gets killed and begins a war between the kidnappers (Romulans or Klingons, preferably Klingon) and the federation for movie 13.

Think of Star Trek doing an epic war on the big screen(not just Big E and two enemies but full on fleet to fleet battle) for 13 that would be amazing.

And if they kill Spock Prime in movie 12 they can give him a hero's death, instead of just forgeting that he has gone back in time and may just wind up fading into the scenery.

Please, no wars...

That would be all we need to put in JJ's hands...

:logical:

I rather Abrams do a war/battle movie than remake TWOK. Plus with todays advanced cgi a battle like the dominion war would be amazing on the big screen with a huge budget.

I just can not see them remaking TWOK   :sick:

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Report this Jul. 30 2009, 11:51 am

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I rather Abrams do a war/battle movie than remake TWOK. Plus with todays advanced cgi a battle like the dominion war would be amazing on the big screen with a huge budget.

I just can not see them remaking TWOK ? :sick:

Think about it...

How could they remake STII: TWOK unless they skipped ahead 20+ years in the new timeline?

It's only rumor at this point they might do a kind of remake of "Space Seed"...

I just don't want JJ running amok and doing his Star Trek version of Star Wars.

:logical:

Those rumors are scary :cry:

I thought he already ran amok.   :whatthe:

I guess at this point really anything goes. Once you take something classic and change it around and bring in new actors, nothing is off limits. If they can recast a classic crew then why not a classic villain.

Now if I can only convince myself!  :laugh:

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Report this Jul. 30 2009, 1:11 pm

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I rather Abrams do a war/battle movie than remake TWOK. Plus with todays advanced cgi a battle like the dominion war would be amazing on the big screen with a huge budget.

I just can not see them remaking TWOK ?

Think about it...

How could they remake STII: TWOK unless they skipped ahead 20+ years in the new timeline?

It's only rumor at this point they might do a kind of remake of "Space Seed"...

I just don't want JJ running amok and doing his Star Trek version of Star Wars.

:logical:

Those rumors are scary

I thought he already ran amok. ?

I guess at this point really anything goes. Once you take something classic and change it around and bring in new actors, nothing is off limits. If they can recast a classic crew then why not a classic villain.

Now if I can only convince myself! ?

I'm not as worried as I once was, since JJ is operating in a separate timeline that has no effect on "real" Trek.

:logical:

You know at this point I can care less. Anything goes. I either like it or I don't, life goes on either way.

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Report this Jul. 30 2009, 2:19 pm

:cool:

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Report this Jul. 30 2009, 2:32 pm

I know, but the term might seem a little off putting to others who accept this Trek as equally if you know what I mean (which I have seen happen before.)  How about "main Trek?"

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Report this Aug. 01 2009, 12:41 am

I voted, yes I like to see him in future movies. I also wouldn't mind to see Shatner in them as well, if its posable. I like both Shatner and Nimoy and thought they were great in TOS and the orginal movies even I thought Shatner was good in Genarations and thought Nimoy was great in the new movie. So if either one of them makes it in the future Star Trek movies, I be happy. But its totaly up to them, and if decide not to, its there choice. I still think the movies would be good even if they are not in it. I like the new crew based of TOS, and I thought they are just as good as the orginals. The new crew has pulled off to a good start, and its future movies I think would still good even if Nimoy or Shatner decides not to be in it. We just have to wait and see what happens.

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Report this Aug. 01 2009, 12:27 pm

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No. Leave off with the old folks already, dang.

A little ageism there? Should we shuffle all of them off to a nursing home? Are the no longer useful to society? ¿:eyesroll:

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