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Should America start weeding out the bigots?

loveroftrekmen

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:14 pm

Should America start weeding out forms of bigotry or hate?  Maybe purchase an island and send them there like the British did to their criminals (sent them to Austrailia).  What do you think?

Counter-argument:  I am not saying that people can not have their opinion on issues.  But, I am defining bigotry as those that spread hate of any kind in public or try to force their views on others when it comes to racist, sexist, sexual indentity hate, etc.  You get the idea.

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:15 pm

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God_in_an_Alcove

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:18 pm

Weeding someone out because of their opinions is just as bad as weeding someone out because of their skin color, or nationality, or religion. The only difference is that opinions can change. (Well, so can religion, but not the other two.)

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:26 pm

Quote (God_in_an_Alcove @ July 26 2009, 2:18 pm)
Weeding someone out because of their opinions is just as bad as weeding someone out because of their skin color, or nationality, or religion. The only difference is that opinions can change. (Well, so can religion, but not the other two.)

Agreed.


This thread is done.

loveroftrekmen

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:27 pm

Quote (God_in_an_Alcove @ July 25 2009, 4:18 pm)
Weeding someone out because of their opinions is just as bad as weeding someone out because of their skin color, or nationality, or religion. The only difference is that opinions can change. (Well, so can religion, but not the other two.)

Please read the counter-argument.  We are not talking about weeding out for opinion.  I made that very clear.  WE are talking about weeding out those who spread hate, war, and essentially destruction to a diverse community.

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:28 pm

Quote (PrepareToBeBoarded @ July 25 2009, 4:26 pm)
Quote (God_in_an_Alcove @ July 26 2009, 2:18 pm)
Weeding someone out because of their opinions is just as bad as weeding someone out because of their skin color, or nationality, or religion. The only difference is that opinions can change. (Well, so can religion, but not the other two.)

Agreed.


This thread is done.

Another person who can not read.  Read the whole post before you respond.  I provided a counter with conditions to discuss, so you would understand the relevance of this discussion and yet you both ignored it or did not read it.  Very sad.

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:28 pm

Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 26 2009, 7:14 am)
Should America start weeding out forms of bigotry or hate? ?Maybe purchase an island and send them there like the British did to their criminals (sent them to Austrailia). ?What do you think?

Counter-argument: ?I am not saying that people can not have their opinion on issues. ?But, I am defining bigotry as those that spread hate of any kind in public or try to force their views on others when it comes to racist, sexist, sexual indentity hate, etc. ?You get the idea.

Often the people that advocate this are some of the biggest bigots.

There are bigots everywhere in life, it's human nature, even if it's mild or rabid like both right and left extremest can be. And there are people where you think you're not a bigot just think differently, but they'll call you a hate filled bigot.

You weed out the bigots here (and who's to say what bigotry is exactly) you'll have a nation filled only with infants.

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:32 pm

Quote (Alisium @ July 26 2009, 2:28 pm)
Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 26 2009, 7:14 am)
Should America start weeding out forms of bigotry or hate? ?Maybe purchase an island and send them there like the British did to their criminals (sent them to Austrailia). ?What do you think?

Counter-argument: ?I am not saying that people can not have their opinion on issues. ?But, I am defining bigotry as those that spread hate of any kind in public or try to force their views on others when it comes to racist, sexist, sexual indentity hate, etc. ?You get the idea.

Often the people that advocate this are some of the biggest bigots.

There are bigots everywhere in life, it's human nature, even if it's mild or rabid like both right and left extremest can be. And there are people where you think you're not a bigot just think differently, but they'll call you a hate filled bigot.

You weed out the bigots here (and who's to say what bigotry is exactly) you'll have a nation filled only with infants.

That's true. To sum up your reply: Where does one draw the line between bigots and normal citizens?

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:33 pm

Look, I made it clear that I was not saying weed our people who have bigoted opinions but keep it to themselves. ¿I am discussing weeding out those who instigate public problems by trying to force others to feel their way. ¿

Please read the whole post.

This is not a thread about being bigoted to bigots.  This is a thread about weeding out those who take their bigotry outside their own personal space or mind.

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:36 pm

Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 26 2009, 7:33 am)
Look, I made it clear that I was not saying weed our people who have bigoted opinions but keep it to themselves. ?I am discussing weeding out those who instigate public problems by trying to force others to feel their way. ?

Please read the whole post.

It's not as easy as that.

Look at what happened Mass recently. A cop was doing his job and according to many, he's a bigot.

You can be labeled a hate-filled bigot that affects others because you keep to yourself.

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:36 pm

Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 26 2009, 2:33 pm)
Look, I made it clear that I was not saying weed our people who have bigoted opinions but keep it to themselves. ¿I am discussing weeding out those who instigate public problems by trying to force others to feel their way. ¿

Please read the whole post.

So then, all you are doing is getting rid of the people that you know are thinking that way. Leaving the people who quietly mumble racial slurs as they walk by. Who knows if these quieter people will snap one day?

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:40 pm

Bottom line is this:

This is America. We all have equal rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Provided we do not tread on those rights of others and break the law we may do as we wish.

It may not have always been perfect and we still have issue but we work through that within the confines of our representative form of government. Not by rounding up all the 'near do wells and shipping them off to Australia 2.0.

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:41 pm

Quote (PrepareToBeBoarded @ July 25 2009, 4:36 pm)
Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 26 2009, 2:33 pm)
Look, I made it clear that I was not saying weed our people who have bigoted opinions but keep it to themselves. ?I am discussing weeding out those who instigate public problems by trying to force others to feel their way. ?

Please read the whole post.

So then, all you are doing is getting rid of the people that you know are thinking that way. Leaving the people who quietly mumble racial slurs as they walk by. Who knows if these quieter people will snap one day?

If they can't control themselves then they have to leave.  This would be necessary to create a civilized society.

Alisium

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:42 pm

Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 26 2009, 7:41 am)
Quote (PrepareToBeBoarded @ July 25 2009, 4:36 pm)
Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 26 2009, 2:33 pm)
Look, I made it clear that I was not saying weed our people who have bigoted opinions but keep it to themselves. ?I am discussing weeding out those who instigate public problems by trying to force others to feel their way. ?

Please read the whole post.

So then, all you are doing is getting rid of the people that you know are thinking that way. Leaving the people who quietly mumble racial slurs as they walk by. Who knows if these quieter people will snap one day?

If they can't control themselves then they have to leave. ¿This would be necessary to create a civilized society.

It's necessary to create a despotic police state.

loveroftrekmen

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Report this Jul. 26 2009, 3:42 pm

Quote (Alisium @ July 25 2009, 4:36 pm)
Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 26 2009, 7:33 am)
Look, I made it clear that I was not saying weed our people who have bigoted opinions but keep it to themselves. ?I am discussing weeding out those who instigate public problems by trying to force others to feel their way. ?

Please read the whole post.

It's not as easy as that.

Look at what happened Mass recently. A cop was doing his job and according to many, he's a bigot.

You can be labeled a hate-filled bigot that affects others because you keep to yourself.

In that case, we would have to have a judge.  That bigoted cop would get a trial.  What his bigotry and accident or malicious?  He obvious has bigotry in his system, but what caused it?  Etc. . . .

However, for this question we have presupposed that we can judge that.

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