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nextgeneration14

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 12:40 am

Is Sisko dead then. So he was burned by Pa-raith (sp?) fire. OK... so is he dead?

TheDriver

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 12:44 am

No, not really.

The producers and writers have stated they found it amusing fans tend to worship their favorite starship captains as gods. So they wanted to literally turn Sisko into a god.

He was always considered to be the "emissary," and the fulfillment of that prophecy was due, in part, to the fact Sisko's mother was actually one of the wormhole aliens. So his "death" just brought him into a higher state of being. He exists everywhere and everywhen as he is now one with the Prophets.

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 1:06 am

Yap, he went to the prophets. He is a prophet now.

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 1:18 am

Quote (nextgeneration14 @ July 25 2009, 12:40 am)
Is Sisko dead then. So he was burned by Pa-raith (sp?) fire. OK... so is he dead?

It depends on your interpretation.

The idea of the "return" seems very much like those promises given by Jesus and Arthur, for instance. Very much a mythical archetype, and very much open to different views.

Commander_Zelkar

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 7:25 am

He did say he'd be back, yes?

RedShirtGuyNumber1001

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 2:38 pm

No Sisko is dead period.  His saying he would be back was more of a momento of I will never be gone as long as you think of me type of thing.  Sisko is dead, and not coming back.  BnB wanted to make sure there was no chance a DS9 movie could be made.

TheDriver

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 2:51 pm

RedShirt, you're a closet conspiracy theorist, correct?

*shaking head*

Braga had nothing whatsoever to do with DS9. And apparently Berman was too busy overseeing VOY to really deal with DS9, leaving Behr and his team to do pretty much whatever they wanted. And they wanted to elevate Sisko to godhood.

Like OtakuJo said, Sisko's return was pretty much an inevitability. But that's another story...

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 3:35 pm

Not dead :logical:


What's interesting to think about is that in the future Sisko could return in another show, played by another actor, but would that work?
He could be reunited with an older Jake and Dax even Captain Nog.

OtakuJo

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Report this Jul. 25 2009, 5:05 pm

Well he could just as easily return played by the same actor. Would they do it? That depends who's in charge. Very unlikely but for those who would say "never", look at all the things that have already happened in Star Trek!

Would it work? Only if the powers that be take great care to make a halfway decent storyline.

RedShirtGuyNumber1001

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Report this Jul. 28 2009, 6:34 pm

Yes but it was stated many times how much Berman did like DS9, he thought it wasn't Star Trek, or it was against his personal canon.  My opinion is that the powers that be told Behr his show was done, and in order to make sure that DS9 was gone forever, Sisko would have to die...so no he is dead period.

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 12:15 am

I can't disagree more.  You can see Dukat burn up.  Sisko is The Emissary and is protected by the Prophets.  They specifically say that they have more for him to do.  Also, let's go back to Episode#89 "Accession" where Akorem Laan returns from being with the prophets for 200 years.  They send him out to prove to Sisko that HE is THE Emissary.  In the end Akorem Laan stays with the prophets again.  This , to me, absolutely proves that no matter what, the Prophets can , at any time, deposit Sisko where they need him to be.  Time has no meaning to them.  At all. Period.  If they have no concept of beginnings or endings how could Sisko be "dead"?  I would not be surprised to find that Sisko is actually some unidentified "hero" or "savior" in Bajor's past or future because the Prophets plopped him in there to fulfill his own destiny.  The Prophets have no concept of past, present or future.

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 6:08 am

challengerdyer  you're entirely right.  Canonically, there's no reason Sisko cannot return as a mortal human even a day after we saw Jake gaze out the window at the end shot of DS9.  The issue is more to whether writing in such a thing would fit the tune of DS9.  I mean, having Sisko stroll back on the promenade saying "Well, I'm back everyone.  What's up with you?"  tends to devalue the finale quite a bit.

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 3:16 pm

I believe Kira told Jake or Sisko told Cassidy that he could be back anytime... tomorrow, today, or yesterday.

Akorem Laan was deposited in the past after history recorded him gone, and the entire DS9 crew remembered the altered history, despite history being changed. That's pretty crafty wormhole alien power right there.

Sisko's not dead, just non-corporeal for the moment. Hmmm... He's taken a corporeal leave of absence.

RedShirtGuyNumber1001

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 4:54 pm

Sorry Charlie but you guys are wrong.  The only way a DS9 movie would ever come back is if Behr came back.  But I doubt he will ever return.  Sisko is not dead in terms of his memory or his contribution to the end of the war, but he will never return to his realm.  Watch the finale again and you can see how when he says he can return anytime that is not what he really means.  In fact this could be the "punishment" the wormhole aliens meant a few episodes earlier.

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Report this Jul. 29 2009, 5:04 pm

Sisko's alive. Behr himself said that he'd return to DS9 if Paramount/CBS funded an adventure. Behr just believed it was unlikely to happen.

Avery Brookes went to Behr addressing the issue of Sisko in the finale. Brookes didn't like it because he thought his character was being killed and that would be bad for those viewers who followed Sisko being the first black captain as a role model. Behr said it was a misinterpretation, that he was trying to turn Sisko into a God and could therefore bring him back should a story arise.

Now, I do admit that Behr has been known to lie to get what he wants story wise, but I seriously doubt he'd lie to Avery Brookes - not when the actor has brought Behr's investment to life.

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