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Star Trek 11 has turned me off forever.

theonlygayinstarfleet

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:04 pm

Destorying Vulcan?!?! It literally made me cry. Its destroyed the timeline and making it all an alternate reality? Effing pathetic.

Did These new writers tune into the New Doctor Who and think, oh Destroying Gallifrey turned out well for that show lets do that to Vulcan too?! Well if they did they missed the fact that the destruction of gallifrey did make everything before hand null and void. (Excluding Enterprise that is)

Do they not realise that to Trekkies the history and lore is important?  Do they not care that every writer beforehand has respected this and did everything to preserve and respect that?

There was no need to destroy Vulcan. Plain and simple, and in fact the movie is rather ####ed good. Well besides it being yet again another lame overdone "We've gotta save earth romp."

For me they might as well put Abrams on screen for 10 minutes taking a dump on the Star Trek encylopedia with a flashy CGI background.

You know thinking about it I should have realised at the first sign of product placement (Nokia in the car) That this movie was gonna go very wrong. I just didnt realise it would completly destroy one of my most cherished and influencial programmes in my life.

If they realise what they did wrong then what have we got to look forward an apologetic triology where they spend to over budgeted movie correcting thier blasphemy? Probably not because that would a waste of money.

Hey Abrams while your at it why do you go and Kill Picard ancestors heck, turn the Andorians green and have transwarp invented in 1753! Make Janeway Kirks lover and reveal that the Kronos is in fact Pluto. Neah he's not that stupid. If he reads this while writing the next sccript I hope he rubs out a future scene with Uhura and and Kirk in a holodeck whilst Scotty invents the replicator.

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:26 pm

we've all heard this before on here at least 100 time, if you're gonna bash the new trek movie make up a new argument at least, yours is supremely LAME :eyesroll:

SpaceTherapist

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:29 pm

I like the idea of an alternate time line/universe for Star Trek. It provides an opportunity to explore who new stories and ideas unhindered by past canon.

Also, I still have my DVDs and can watch any old episode I want. The prime universe hasn't gone away.

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:32 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:29 pm)
I like the idea of an alternate time line/universe for Star Trek. It provides an opportunity to explore who new stories and ideas unhindered by past canon.

Also, I still have my DVDs and can watch any old episode I want. The prime universe hasn't gone away.

It has if no one does anything else with in the future.
Novels don't count.

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:35 pm

I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:46 pm

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I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

if they ever show Klingons in the TOS era they better have ridges. That was the way they were supposed to always have looked like. The original series just couldn't afford to do it that way.

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:48 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:46 pm)
Quote (Khoufu_Khorushu @ July 18 2009, 3:35 pm)
I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

if they ever show Klingons in the TOS era they better have ridges. That was the way they were supposed to always have looked like. The original series just couldn't afford to do it that way.

Assuming Orci keeps his word, then  if they show Klingons in a sequel, they'll have to stick with Enterprise's canon and use the smooth headed Klingons.
That story took place  long before the timeline divergence.

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:54 pm

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Quote (Khoufu_Khorushu @ July 18 2009, 3:35 pm)
I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

if they ever show Klingons in the TOS era they better have ridges. That was the way they were supposed to always have looked like. The original series just couldn't afford to do it that way.

Assuming Orci keeps his word, then ¿if they show Klingons in a sequel, they'll have to stick with Enterprise's canon and use the smooth headed Klingons.
That story took place ¿long before the timeline divergence.

It will be interesting to see what they do. I think the deleted scenes from the new movie show Klingons with ridges.

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 2:56 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:54 pm)
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I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

if they ever show Klingons in the TOS era they better have ridges. That was the way they were supposed to always have looked like. The original series just couldn't afford to do it that way.

Assuming Orci keeps his word, then ?if they show Klingons in a sequel, they'll have to stick with Enterprise's canon and use the smooth headed Klingons.
That story took place ?long before the timeline divergence.

It will be interesting to see what they do. I think the deleted scenes from the new movie show Klingons with ridges.

I just "love" how choose to stick with some bits of canon and completely ignore other bits. :eyesroll:

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 3:02 pm

Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 3:56 pm)
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Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 3:48 pm)
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Quote (Khoufu_Khorushu @ July 18 2009, 3:35 pm)
I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

if they ever show Klingons in the TOS era they better have ridges. That was the way they were supposed to always have looked like. The original series just couldn't afford to do it that way.

Assuming Orci keeps his word, then ?if they show Klingons in a sequel, they'll have to stick with Enterprise's canon and use the smooth headed Klingons.
That story took place ?long before the timeline divergence.

It will be interesting to see what they do. I think the deleted scenes from the new movie show Klingons with ridges.

I just "love" how choose to stick with some bits of canon and completely ignore other bits. :eyesroll:

A star trek has done that all throughout it's history.



Star Trek violates canon

WkdYngMan

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 3:06 pm

Quote (theonlygayinstarfleet @ July 19 2009, 2:04 pm)
Do they not realise that to Trekkies the history and lore is important? ¿Do they not care that every writer beforehand has respected this and did everything to preserve and respect that?

I'm not even sure most Trekkies care about such things.  Hence, why 8/10 or 9/10 Trekkies like the film!

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 3:09 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 3:02 pm)
Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 3:56 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:54 pm)
Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 3:48 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:46 pm)
Quote (Khoufu_Khorushu @ July 18 2009, 3:35 pm)
I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

if they ever show Klingons in the TOS era they better have ridges. That was the way they were supposed to always have looked like. The original series just couldn't afford to do it that way.

Assuming Orci keeps his word, then ?if they show Klingons in a sequel, they'll have to stick with Enterprise's canon and use the smooth headed Klingons.
That story took place ?long before the timeline divergence.

It will be interesting to see what they do. I think the deleted scenes from the new movie show Klingons with ridges.

I just "love" how choose to stick with some bits of canon and completely ignore other bits. :eyesroll:

A star trek has done that all throughout it's history.



Star Trek violates canon

Therapist, those were mistakes.
They didn't pick and choose which bits to ignore.

WkdYngMan

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 3:15 pm

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Therapist, those were mistakes.


Ahh.... so they were careless, ignorant, and were too lazy to do research. ¿They're con-men!

SpaceTherapist

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 3:20 pm

Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 4:09 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 3:02 pm)
Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 3:56 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:54 pm)
Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 3:48 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:46 pm)
Quote (Khoufu_Khorushu @ July 18 2009, 3:35 pm)
I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

if they ever show Klingons in the TOS era they better have ridges. That was the way they were supposed to always have looked like. The original series just couldn't afford to do it that way.

Assuming Orci keeps his word, then ?if they show Klingons in a sequel, they'll have to stick with Enterprise's canon and use the smooth headed Klingons.
That story took place ?long before the timeline divergence.

It will be interesting to see what they do. I think the deleted scenes from the new movie show Klingons with ridges.

I just "love" how choose to stick with some bits of canon and completely ignore other bits. :eyesroll:

A star trek has done that all throughout it's history.



Star Trek violates canon

Therapist, those were mistakes.
They didn't pick and choose which bits to ignore.

I guess there is no way you and I will see eye to eye on this. I think having this movie in an altered time line gives them creative license to do something different and for me that difference is creative and new.

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Report this Jul. 19 2009, 3:21 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 3:20 pm)
Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 4:09 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 3:02 pm)
Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 3:56 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:54 pm)
Quote (BrianHMay @ July 18 2009, 3:48 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 19 2009, 2:46 pm)
Quote (Khoufu_Khorushu @ July 18 2009, 3:35 pm)
I also hate it. And I thought a book that took place during TOS where the Klingons had their head-ridges and Bones learned about David Marcus already was horrible!

if they ever show Klingons in the TOS era they better have ridges. That was the way they were supposed to always have looked like. The original series just couldn't afford to do it that way.

Assuming Orci keeps his word, then ?if they show Klingons in a sequel, they'll have to stick with Enterprise's canon and use the smooth headed Klingons.
That story took place ?long before the timeline divergence.

It will be interesting to see what they do. I think the deleted scenes from the new movie show Klingons with ridges.

I just "love" how choose to stick with some bits of canon and completely ignore other bits. :eyesroll:

A star trek has done that all throughout it's history.



Star Trek violates canon

Therapist, those were mistakes.
They didn't pick and choose which bits to ignore.

I guess there is no way you and I will see eye to eye on this. I think having this movie in an altered time line gives them creative license to do something different and for me that difference is creative and new.

It's a cop-out.
And you know it.

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