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dryson

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Report this Oct. 05 2009, 7:19 pm

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Dryson, such a qualification does not mean you know what you're talking about when it comes to the scientific definition of space.

Your work is good for renderings in art and design, but it does not relate to what spacetime is.

That seems to be your problem; you're confusing art too much with science.


No, what you are doing is trying to make spacetime sound horribly confusing to people where you can pretty much say whatever you want about spacetime and it will be excepted as the truth because your audience won't even know what you are talking about.

Space time is nothing more then taking an area of outter space, which is a medium because there are energetic and biological reactions that take place within the medium of space where the particles in space affect one another but will not affect space itself nor will space affect the particles and placing a certain geometric constraint such as a 2-D rectangle, or 3-D geometric costraint such as a cube or cone and studying the amount of time or the measureable distance that is created between two or more particles based on the particles interaction between one another within the geometric constraint.

4_of_20

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 3:22 am

By applying Fennmen's sum over multiple histories and all that, is it possible that a universe exists somewhere that follows dryson's laws of physics? Or even less ridiculous, Star Trek or Wars?

GrandLunar2007

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 8:29 am

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Dryson, such a qualification does not mean you know what you're talking about when it comes to the scientific definition of space.

Your work is good for renderings in art and design, but it does not relate to what spacetime is.

That seems to be your problem; you're confusing art too much with science.


No, what you are doing is trying to make spacetime sound horribly confusing to people where you can pretty much say whatever you want about spacetime and it will be excepted as the truth because your audience won't even know what you are talking about.

Space time is nothing more then taking an area of outter space, which is a medium because there are energetic and biological reactions that take place within the medium of space where the particles in space affect one another but will not affect space itself nor will space affect the particles and placing a certain geometric constraint such as a 2-D rectangle, or 3-D geometric costraint such as a cube or cone and studying the amount of time or the measureable distance that is created between two or more particles based on the particles interaction between one another within the geometric constraint.

Dryson, people can look up information on spacetime online or in science publications.

The information is written by qualified people, or taken from peer reviewed work, which comes from studies and observations.

It is astronomers and astrophysicists that provide the information on what spacetime is, not graphic artists.

If you think you can be a match against the PhDs that study space for a living, be my guest.

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Report this Oct. 07 2009, 10:08 pm

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I remember that thread. What a joke, just like this one.

Like the other day, I was going to apologize cause I could sense myself going off-topic in a post. Then I looked up and noticed the title was; "Which is faster, light or time?" and I decided to not even bother apologizing and go on ranting bs...

Off-topic is almost always the best defense against brain

dammage.

All that stuff is as superficial as TV shows.

"They've ruined my Trek!" What a freekin' joke.

Superficial changes to a superficial entertainment (oxymoron).

dryson

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Report this Oct. 13 2009, 9:53 am

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Dryson, people can look up information on spacetime online or in science publications.

The information is written by qualified people, or taken from peer reviewed work, which comes from studies and observations.

It is astronomers and astrophysicists that provide the information on what spacetime is, not graphic artists.

If you think you can be a match against the PhDs that study space for a living, be my guest.


Those whose study space are controlled by the elite and wealthy so that the elite and wealthy who are highly un-intelligent can use what the scientists find as a means of controlling people so they can make money off of them.

It doesn't take a PhD. to understand space and what space it, those that says it does are the type of people who want to look down upon people of lesser intelligence to control them to put money in their pockets which makes these types of people more un-intelligent then those that they control.

Space is an area outside of the confines of Earth where energetic reactions occur and can be seen with normal vision. These interactions include but are not limited to the sun a moon orbiting a planet or a comet. All of the aforementioned objects are energetic reactions taking place within space where space does not affect the objects that reside in space nor will the objects that reside in space affect space directly.

Sub-Space is the region of space where energetic reactions that cannot be seen with normal vision but require equipment to be seen occur. Sub-space is the area of space where an atom's energetic reactions take place. Sub space cannot be affected by space nor can Sub-Space affect space.

The reason why, space does not exist as any existance requires and energtic reaction to occur between various particle's of the atom. Space is a medium where energetic reactions reside and cannot be affected by or can space affect the energetic reactions taking place within space.

Why should I conform to what someone else wants me to believe so they can control me to base their cult off of so they can make money off of me so their fears of insecurity can be quenched by having x amount of dollars in their bank account so they can further corrupt and pollute their surroundings with their self indoctrinated delusion of trying to teach and project theirself into other people? I don't think so.

Why would I want to be molded like someone else wants me to be? Just to fancy their own fears?

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Report this Oct. 13 2009, 10:32 am

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Dryson, people can look up information on spacetime online or in science publications.

The information is written by qualified people, or taken from peer reviewed work, which comes from studies and observations.

It is astronomers and astrophysicists that provide the information on what spacetime is, not graphic artists.

If you think you can be a match against the PhDs that study space for a living, be my guest.


Those whose study space are controlled by the elite and wealthy so that the elite and wealthy who are highly un-intelligent can use what the scientists find as a means of controlling people so they can make money off of them.

It doesn't take a PhD. to understand space and what space it, those that says it does are the type of people who want to look down upon people of lesser intelligence to control them to put money in their pockets which makes these types of people more un-intelligent then those that they control.

Space is an area outside of the confines of Earth where energetic reactions occur and can be seen with normal vision. These interactions include but are not limited to the sun a moon orbiting a planet or a comet. All of the aforementioned objects are energetic reactions taking place within space where space does not affect the objects that reside in space nor will the objects that reside in space affect space directly.

Sub-Space is the region of space where energetic reactions that cannot be seen with normal vision but require equipment to be seen occur. Sub-space is the area of space where an atom's energetic reactions take place. Sub space cannot be affected by space nor can Sub-Space affect space.

The reason why, space does not exist as any existance requires and energtic reaction to occur between various particle's of the atom. Space is a medium where energetic reactions reside and cannot be affected by or can space affect the energetic reactions taking place within space.

Why should I conform to what someone else wants me to believe so they can control me to base their cult off of so they can make money off of me so their fears of insecurity can be quenched by having x amount of dollars in their bank account so they can further corrupt and pollute their surroundings with their self indoctrinated delusion of trying to teach and project theirself into other people? I don't think so.

Why would I want to be molded like someone else wants me to be? Just to fancy their own fears?

amazing now scientists are conspiring to hide the true nature of space time!!!! Scientist trend to be fairly low paid in comparison to the amount of education that they are require to have.

If the data coming from Observatories and Particle Accelerators was controlled by banker or Wall street, you may have some kind of point. Scientific research is freely distributed in form of papers and lectures which outline procedures that were used and carried out.

Other scientists donot take result of other scientist experiment on faith, they conduct the same experiment on their own or come up with verision of experiment that test the original results.

That why fraud  such as Jan Henrik Sch¿n , Shinichi Fujimura ,  Paul Kammerer  and a host of other scientists were uncover by fellow scientist. It only when enought experimental proof has be collected do scientist agree on a theory.

That why DAMA in italy who's claims of detecting Dark matter is still in doubt, no lab in USA has same success or why it took 25 years to finally prove cold fusion.

Your are correct it doesnot take a PHD to understand Space or what it is, but it does take a education in science and mathematics. Without such background you would be unable to understand concepts such as General Relativity, Reimann Tensors and Matrixes, or even the historical concepts that resulted in the current model and theories of the structure or space time.

Also a scientific background would show you the number of every day items that based on the Mathematical Frame work of General Relativity or the countless experiments that trend to support it.

Your Concept of a Cabal of Scientist or elite to control knowledge reeks of right wing wacko that attempt to discredit scientific ideas such Evolution, Global warming or even the Earth being round, by attacking Men and women that delicate their lifes to pursue of Knowledge. Einstein work at a pattern office, not a secert goverment lab when he propose his theory of Relativity, and Stuggled to earn a living till experimental proof of his predictions verified his ideas. Fame and wealth was by producted of release of true nature of space time, not concealing it. Even then, the most money he earned in the form of the Nobel Prize for Physics was for the work on the Photo electric effect, a corner stone of Quantum physics not Astro physics..

As it stand Science open the mind, it expose us to Scientific method which show us that any idea most be provable. That by following the steps of scientific method we can find answers and proofs to questions that we seek. Science has brought us all the things we present enjoy today, from the computers we surf the internet on to the medical treatment for disease such as smallpox.

There is no Conspiracy against you, i doubt anyone could make a single penny off what you have to say.

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Report this Oct. 13 2009, 1:29 pm

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Your Concept of a Cabal of Scientist or elite to control knowledge reeks of right wing wacko that attempt to discredit scientific ideas such Evolution, Global warming or even the Earth being round, by attacking Men and women that delicate their lifes to pursue of Knowledge


This post belongs in the Ardi thread and not in the topic Sub-Space.

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Report this Oct. 13 2009, 2:19 pm

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Your Concept of a Cabal of Scientist or elite to control knowledge reeks of right wing wacko that attempt to discredit scientific ideas such Evolution, Global warming or even the Earth being round, by attacking Men and women that delicate their lifes to pursue of Knowledge


This post belongs in the Ardi thread and not in the topic Sub-Space.

Wrong this belong in all threads dealing with you! This is your ultimate fall back. Not that you have proof derive from a source, or some kind of experiment. Instead you reduce everything to some kind of attempt to discredit you.

Your postings belong basically in general room since there is no element of science in any of them. Just your ravings...

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Report this Oct. 13 2009, 6:39 pm

No one's answered my question yet.

In a multiverse, would there be universes out there with physics and constants so drastically different to ours, they seem ludicrous? ie. The Star Wars universe, or drysons?

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Report this Oct. 13 2009, 6:43 pm

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No one's answered my question yet.

In a multiverse, would there be universes out there with physics and constants so drastically different to ours, they seem ludicrous? ie. The Star Wars universe, or drysons?

Simply put YES.

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Report this Oct. 13 2009, 6:45 pm

That's what I thought. Scary innit?

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Report this Oct. 13 2009, 9:35 pm

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Those whose study space are controlled by the elite and wealthy so that the elite and wealthy who are highly un-intelligent can use what the scientists find as a means of controlling people so they can make money off of them.


What's your evidence of this?

This seems more like an excuse to tell people not to believe decades of research.

Sorry Dryson, I don't by into this "it's a big conspiracy!" garbage.
Try that on someone else.

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Report this Oct. 16 2009, 1:10 am

What's drysons evidence?

Period.

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Report this Oct. 16 2009, 9:46 am

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What's drysons evidence?

Period.

Asterisk.

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Report this Oct. 19 2009, 5:03 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if some of his ideas came from the comic, "Asterisk".

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