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WHY did you LIKE Enterprise?

grigori

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 5:41 pm

(Since we've heard quite a bit about why people didn't watch or didn't like it...)

Regardless of your response, please elaborate on your particular take on what made Enterprise watch-worthy.

You can even give your favorite episode--if your mind is so well-ordered and certain! and why it is.

honeybee1111

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 6:46 pm

okay, this one's for you, grigori What did I like about ENT?

The color palate. The design of the ship, interior and exterior. No holodecks. The idea of space travel becoming dangerous again. Vulcans and Vulcan culture. Andorians (never tell me that alien makeup can't be interesting and compelling). The fact that Archer wasn't enlightened and frequently f-ed things up. The fact that Hoshi was scared and got over it - and was eventually willing to sacrifice her life to save earth. The fact that we never saw a Klingon in psycho-therapy. T'Pol wasn't always right, but she wasn't always wrong.

Favorite episodes by Season:
1: Broken Bow, Shockwave Part 1, Strange New World
2: Carbon Creek, Minefield, Dead Stop, Regeneration, Cogenitor
3: Anomaly, Impulse, North Star, Similitude, Azati Prime, Damage, Zero Hour
4: Home, The Forge Arc, The Observer Effect, Mirror Episodes, Terra Prime

grigori

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 7:00 pm

power-house of a response! well-thought out and, better, makes sense. tx!

whyaduck

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 7:30 pm

It's tough to pick just one choice in the poll. honeybee actually put into words exactly how I feel about Enterprise, so I won't repeat that, but I will add the relationships between the crew, the character-driven stories, the almost childlike awe and excitement with which Archer, and the crew, first approach exploration (until he finally gets that knocked out of him), the NX-01, and the humor.

Some of my favorite episodes:

Broken Bow
Shuttlepod One
Similitude
Night in Sickbay (yes, I know. No one likes this episode :laugh:)
Shockwave, Part II
Minefield
Dead Stop
Anomaly
and many more

TrekFan1701E

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 7:30 pm

CGI, NX-01. I also liked Shran and the Andorians.

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 7:37 pm

Most of the above, specifically:

The time period: First human foray into space;
Character-Driven Complexity;
Intriguing Cast;
and last, but certainly not least,

(Catsuits &) Bare Chests!! "...Hallelujah, it's raining men!"

NX-01 was the cutting edge of its time; these folks weren't perfect--not even the Vulcan?! not even the Vulcan, although she was 11 on a scale of 1-to-10, and I'm a grrl... then again... even the Chief Engineer was 11 on a scale of 1-to-10...

Character-driven complexity was there from day one, which we didn't get until mid-way through TNG; DS9 and Voy turned into soap operas, and I couldn't relate to those people, so I stopped watching them.

I could relate to ENT's officers; I only stopped because the whole TCW and Xindi thing were as unrelate-able as DS9's and VOY's histronics... but I came back for S.4...

Intriguing cast: (If you don't know what I'm gonna write here, then you haven't been paying attention to my posts! )
I don't know who cast them, but Forgotten Casting Director, whoever you are, Thank-You-Thank-You-Thank-You!! for introducing me to Dominic Keating and Connor Trinneer!! ...on film, I mean; I haven't gone to a Trek con to meet them--yet--but will when the book is finished, and definitely if it's accepted for publication, and I will most definitely dedicate it to Dominic and Connor--and Mom and Dad, natch!

whyaduck

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 7:59 pm

Serit - I hope it happens for you. When do you think you'll be done with the book?

BrotherofShran01

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 8:17 pm

In a Mirror, Darkly Part I & I - I loved the Terran Empire and seeing the mirror counterparts of the Archer's crew. Also, a Constitution class starship - the Defiant.

The Andorian Incident - First introduction of Shran.

Shadows of P'Jem - More Shran. The Andorians work with The ENT crew to save Archer and T'Pol.

Proving Ground - "The Andorian Mining Consortium runs from no one." - Shran, sarcastically



Azati Prime

E? (squared) - "It's the strangest thing. I, uh? I look at you, and I see my father ? right here, around the eyes. Now, the ears, those? those are your mother's."?- Tucker, to Lorian

Zero Hour - "Tell Archer... we're not even anymore. He owes me!" - Shran, as his ship is rocked by weapons fire

Borderland, Cold Station 12, The Augments



The Forge, Awakening, Kir'Shara

Babel One, United, The Aenar

Affliction

Butt Kicking, Catsuits, Orion & MACO Women!!!

grigori

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 9:28 pm

Quote (whyaduck @ July 15 2009, 7:30 pm)
the almost childlike awe and excitement with which Archer, and the crew, first approach exploration (until he finally gets that knocked out of him), the NX-01, and the humor.

tx 'duck, I often forget to mention the child-like awe aspect which FIRST drew me in. it was most definitely pointed and cultivated to give the viewers the same sense of wonder.

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 10:14 pm

I enjoy a good prequel.
Plus I enjoyed Shran and the Andorians.

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 10:36 pm

Growing up I had two groups of heroes.  The real astronauts of the Apollo and Skylab missions, and the fictional astronauts of Star Trek.  ENT was a great combination of the two.  I'm currently re-re-re-watching my ENT DVD set and sometimes feel like, Didn't anyone else get it?  (Judging by the ratings, not too many of us.) It was a great show and really restored a sense of the Right Stuff to the ST franchise.  
I liked TNG/DS9/VOY, but by the end of VOY's run the crew seemed like ho-hum, another space anomaly and we need to save the universe.
Setting ENT closer to our own time let the characters react more the way we might.  The ENT crew could get excited about a comet or seeing a shape-shifting alien.
By the 24th century it had become old hat.
I also thought the show had a great cast, and Archer would definitely be a captain I would want to serve with.

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 10:43 pm

Time-travel stories kept cropping up    was my vote,

I have to include:

Time period - 1st human foray into space

Rife with Vulcan culture, and some Andorians too

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 11:19 pm

Loved the Andorian stories, I always thought that them and the Tellarites were underused species.  The only 2 founding Federation members we ever got a good look at before ENT were Humans and Vulcans

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Report this Jul. 16 2009, 6:52 am

Voted "most of the above", though I probably should have picked only "character-driven complexity" and "intriguing cast" - believable, interesting and adequate actors and characters are the primary factor that defines my interest, but content goes close secon, of course ;)
"time-travel stories kept cropping up" is another attraction for me.
The other options did not matter much to me.
As for "because it was the best TV show you've ever seen", I can say ENT became the first sci-fi space adventure show which I wanted to have on DVD.

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Report this Jul. 16 2009, 6:53 am

In hindsight, I think season 3 was ahead of its time in the way in addressed a post 9-11 world. It was way dark compared to any other Star Trek series, and I can see why that would turn people off at the time. But then BSG came along and was 1000x darker than any Trek and critics went ape over its moral relativism and mysticism. The "good guys" torture, execute and murder.

Me? I prefer the Star Trek worldview. Archer begins season three "waterboarding" a pirate with the airlock (something BSG did later) but by Stratagem he's using brains over brawn to get information. In the end, he and his crew have to work with some Xindi to stop the attack and unite against a common enemy. Archer is challenged and forced to bend his moral code multiple times (See Damage), but it never fully breaks. Suicide bombing, torture, genocide, environmental rape (see the spheres) are all still portrayed as awful things.

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