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What If The Romulans Found Out That

TrekFan1701E

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 8:29 pm

What type of consenquences would that have for the Alpha Quadarent and their relationship with the Federation?

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 9:01 pm

they probably wouldn't go to war over it but the Fed would lose any trust and credibility they had built up. Which wasn't much IMHO. Things would go back to the way they were between the Fed and the Romulans

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 9:03 pm

Exactly.

But unless Garak spills the beans (completely improbable), the Romulans will never know.

'Cause ya know, Sisko is one with the Prophets now.

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 10:54 pm

Quote (TrekFan1701E @ July 11 2009, 8:29 pm)
What type of consenquences would that have for the Alpha Quadarent and their relationship with the Federation?

Bye bye alliance.

...especially as even when the Romulans didn't know about it, the alliance was a precarious one. (Certainly enough for Section 31 to want to weigh in on Romulan affairs.)

And (although probably not permanently) it would make the establishment of future relations nigh impossible for quite some time.

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 12:34 am

It also depends on the Tal Shiar, whether or not they knew and were complicit. They may have seen the danger of the Dominion and were looking for an excuse to join the Federation. In this case, had they examined the damaged data clip and discovered it to be false - despite Garek's assurances to the contrary - they could have just looked the other way because it suited their purposes.

Ultimately, the Dominion War seemed to bring the Federation and the Romulans together. I'm sure that Section 31 and the Tal Shiar might conspire together to suppress the truth should it ever arise. But it would also be questionable since the data clip was damaged.

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 12:36 am

I also think the Romulans should approach the Wormhole and demand Sisko pay for his actions - should the truth ever be known.

But really... what could the Romulans do? Sisko's a non corporeal being now.

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 9:54 am

Quote (lostshaker @ July 12 2009, 12:34 am)
It also depends on the Tal Shiar, whether or not they knew and were complicit. They may have seen the danger of the Dominion and were looking for an excuse to join the Federation. In this case, had they examined the damaged data clip and discovered it to be false - despite Garek's assurances to the contrary - they could have just looked the other way because it suited their purposes.

Ultimately, the Dominion War seemed to bring the Federation and the Romulans together. I'm sure that Section 31 and the Tal Shiar might conspire together to suppress the truth should it ever arise. But it would also be questionable since the data clip was damaged.

Good point.

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 11:52 am

Quote (Damien @ July 11 2009, 2:01 am)
they probably wouldn't go to war over it but the Fed would lose any trust and credibility they had built up. Which wasn't much IMHO. Things would go back to the way they were between the Fed and the Romulans

What was there to find? a damaged Optolythic data rod with now, apparently no way to tell if it was authentic. Remember it was Garak who destroyed the ship not the Federation, so if anything, Garak would be implicated in a murder and unless he confessed to what really happened (and the Romulans believed him) it was all cool, even the forged rod could be put down to Garak.

In a worse case scenario where the Romulans do find out and blame the Federation, I'm not sure they would go to war, sure they may threaten to but it's doubtfull they would be in a position to challenge Starfleet after the War and the events from NEM. And a few years later, they won't be around any more.

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 12:31 pm

The Romulans will always be around, just hopefully as allies now.

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 12:38 pm

Quote (captbates @ July 12 2009, 11:52 am)
Quote (Damien @ July 11 2009, 2:01 am)
they probably wouldn't go to war over it but the Fed would lose any trust and credibility they had built up. Which wasn't much IMHO. Things would go back to the way they were between the Fed and the Romulans

What was there to find? a damaged Optolythic data rod with now, apparently no way to tell if it was authentic. Remember it was Garak who destroyed the ship not the Federation, so if anything, Garak would be implicated in a murder and unless he confessed to what really happened (and the Romulans believed him) it was all cool, even the forged rod could be put down to Garak.

In a worse case scenario where the Romulans do find out and blame the Federation, I'm not sure they would go to war, sure they may threaten to but it's doubtfull they would be in a position to challenge Starfleet after the War and the events from NEM. And a few years later, they won't be around any more.

So now the real question is would Romulus go to war with the Cardassians?

I think the Federation would intervene on their behalf. Knowing Garek could spill the beans would heavily motivate them - though I'd like to think the Federation would act for more altruistic reasons... like them having helped rebuilt Cardassia and helping the government to became stable and less militaristic than the pre-Dominion War Regimes.

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Report this Jul. 13 2009, 7:32 pm

It certainly would have created some interesting implications for Nemesis.

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 4:38 am

If anyone, they were tricked by Garek. If in a tight spot, the Federation could always use him as a scapegoat.

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 8:53 am

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If anyone, they were tricked by Garek. If in a tight spot, the Federation could always use him as a scapegoat.

They were tricked by Garak and Sisko.

Sisko has a definite share of responsibility for what happened, for better or worse.

And thinking about the Romulans, I'm pretty sure they would see any attempt by the Federation to place the blame entirely on Garak as a sign of cowardice on the Feds' part -- which would scarcely help the alliance, would it?

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Report this Jul. 17 2009, 1:33 am

Quote (OtakuJo @ July 15 2009, 7:53 am)
Quote (nextgeneration14 @ July 15 2009, 4:38 am)
If anyone, they were tricked by Garek. If in a tight spot, the Federation could always use him as a scapegoat.

They were tricked by Garak and Sisko.

Sisko has a definite share of responsibility for what happened, for better or worse.

And thinking about the Romulans, I'm pretty sure they would see any attempt by the Federation to place the blame entirely on Garak as a sign of cowardice on the Feds' part -- which would scarcely help the alliance, would it?

Court marshal Sisko. Done

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Report this Jul. 17 2009, 3:02 am

Ah but you see, Starfleet Command knew about Sisko's plan, and had approved it before he went ahead. So that wouldn't work too well, either.

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