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Captain_Storma

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 2:53 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 09 2009, 8:23 pm)
Quote (exeter276 @ July 08 2009, 12:03 pm)
Since the Excelsior Class is my favorite ship I have always wanted to see a series on the Enterprise-B. The "B" has unlimited potential with most of that era unwritten and possibilities endless. I know we had the Enterprise-B in Generations, but hated Ferris Bueller's buddy Cameron as captain. A starship captain IMHO needs to be more assertive and have more of a commanding presence. Ferris's buddy failed horribly for me in that role. The series could start off with a different captain and Cameron got reassigned after their shake down cruise.

http://trekmovie.com/2009....-series

We are overdue for a series about the USS Excelsior with Sulu at the helm! I don't know who would play him, is Takei too old? I don't know but, but I would love to see a series like that.

Say goodbye to those ideas!

All you will get will be a movie spinoff in the new alternate timeframe... if we will get a series at all.  :(

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 2:59 pm

Quote (Captain_Storma @ July 08 2009, 3:53 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 09 2009, 8:23 pm)
Quote (exeter276 @ July 08 2009, 12:03 pm)
Since the Excelsior Class is my favorite ship I have always wanted to see a series on the Enterprise-B. The "B" has unlimited potential with most of that era unwritten and possibilities endless. I know we had the Enterprise-B in Generations, but hated Ferris Bueller's buddy Cameron as captain. A starship captain IMHO needs to be more assertive and have more of a commanding presence. Ferris's buddy failed horribly for me in that role. The series could start off with a different captain and Cameron got reassigned after their shake down cruise.

http://trekmovie.com/2009....-series

We are overdue for a series about the USS Excelsior with Sulu at the helm! I don't know who would play him, is Takei too old? I don't know but, but I would love to see a series like that.

Say goodbye to those ideas!

All you will get will be a movie spinoff in the new alternate timeframe... if we will get a series at all. ¿:(

You are right,. The time for an Excelsior series  or an Enterprise B series was prior to this movie.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 3:20 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ July 09 2009, 3:13 pm)
Well, Admiral, we've found a difference...

ST(TOS): "Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship, Enterprise. It's five year mission: To explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizatons. To boldly go where no man has gone before."
New stories each week, new life and new civilizations with new challanges and how Captain Kirk and crew would deal with them.

TNG: "Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship, Enterprise. It's continuing mission: To explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizatons. To boldly go where no one has gone before."
Mostly new stories each week, new life and new civilizations with new challanges and how Captain Picard and crew would deal with them. The Borg theme got a little long in the tooth.

DS9: Nice intro music. Probably my favorite from all of the series.
Mostly one thematic story from beginning to end - Bajor, Dukat, the Emessary. The Babylon 5 of Trek. There were a lot of side stories about the crew and Quark and we came to know more about them than any other Trek series characters, but it always came back to the central theme.

VOY: Nice intro music. A chance to get back to what I enjoyed about Trek, but there was the Kazon arc. When that was played out we were given the Borg arc up to the end of the series. Again, there were some side stories, especially during the brief period between the Kazon and the Borg arcs.

ENT: I thought Faith of the Heart fit rather well with Earth's first warp 5 exploration ship and the prequel premis.
The best chance to get back to what I enjoyed about Trek. So much potential too often missing the mark. Manny Coto came in and gave me more of what I had expected/wanted in the fourth season only to see the series cancelled and the dreadful TATV.

Trek is a complex, intertwined concept with many threads making up the fabric - the future; space; science; who they are; who we are and will become; personality interaction, conflict and resolution; exploration; what they will do when they find it. As viewers, we are on the outside looking in, using the settings and what they do as a mirror to explore what we think and what we would do placing ourselves in the character's place. This is what Trek is to me.

If it were only the human condition, there are many other venues to fill that niche. Trek is unique and what I feel Abrams failed to grasp.

I think the sooner people can agree on these two facts:

1. Star Trek means something different to everyone

2. There are many different versions and approaches to Star Trek and that make it a wonderfully diverse and rich franchise, none of which are any more or less "real" than the other...

...the sooner all this arguing goes away.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 3:34 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ July 09 2009, 3:33 pm)
Quote (Vger23 @ July 09 2009, 3:20 pm)
I think the sooner people can agree on these two facts:

1. Star Trek means something different to everyone

2. There are many different versions and approaches to Star Trek and that make it a wonderfully diverse and rich franchise, none of which are any more or less "real" than the other...

...the sooner all this arguing goes away.

:laugh: You obviously don't know the story of the Admiral and myself.

It dawned on us a few months ago how very oddly similar we are in our love of all things Trek.

He really liked/likes NEMESIS and me, not so much. There are a few opinions where we differ, but it doesn't amount to much.

This is why I said, "Well, Admiral, we've found a difference..." It's probably a shock to both of our systems :laugh:

There is no hostile arguing, merely a difference of opinion. And, between the Admiral and me, it's unusual to the point of being a good plot for a Twilight Zone episode.

I didn't mean you guys...I was just using your discussion as a springboard for a point. I know you guys love each other...!

:laugh:

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 3:37 pm

Here is my simple list of wishes if someone somewhere is TRULY thinking of initiating a new Star Trek series.

1. Please don't put it on SyFy. Please don't put it on a major network (I KNOW CBS owns it, please don't point that out to me). I'd love to see it fall to TNT (Rescue Me, The Shield) or HBO (Sopranos) where format is not so restricted and budget would be a little bit better.

2. Please put someone in front of / in charge of it that has some BALLZ. The fans and the viewing audience need to be challenged. Roddenberry's Trek back in the 60s was always pushing the envelope of what was acceptable for a television audience. I think people forget this fact because it was 40+ years ago and things have changed so much since then. A new Star Trek series should also push the envelope and challenge the viewers and fans.

3. Please do NOT try to cater to the fans. Varying segments of the fanbase are going to whine and moan no matter what because "their precious franchise is being changed" (see negative reactions to Star Trek XI). Simply make the most entertaining and high-quality television show possible, provide nods to the fans to keep them happy, and don't ever look back (see positive reactions to Star Trek XI).

4. Please either continue the concept of a TOS reboot / reimagining / whatever OR do something completely new. No "Adventures of Captain Sulu." No "USS Titan" series. Don't be tied into anything where non-fans are going to feel lost and hardcore fans are going to pick it apart for accuracy.

5. Please do NOT put a show on the air until 3-5 years after the last JJ movie has premiered. If anything, history has taught us that over-saturation can seriously hurt a franchise like Star Trek, and it quickly becomes stale and uninteresting to audiences and even fans. Let us ride the wave of the movies for a while, and then bring the show to the airwaves just as the hunger and curiosity for something new is starting to build again.

6. Please make sure that we maintain a show that is a positive outlook on humanity's future without resorting to stiff pseudo-perfect characters, political correctness, sappy preaching, and obvious metaphors. These things worked great in the late 1980s, but are completely lost on the 21st century audience. You can still have a great "vision" without resorting to these tired and stale ways of illustrating it.

7. Please NO FANWANK!! The series format should not be anything like "Captain Max Ryder and his highly skilled team of 25th century Starfleet Explorers, including @#rrtthh3cha his Horta 1st officer, Dr. Jean-Luc Riker (son of Will and Troi Riker, and CMO), Shro-Var his Romulan security officer and Spermy his Sperm Whale Conn Officer." It should have nothing to do with interstellar war between the Gorn, Federation, and Tholians. It should have no time travel / temporal cold-war themes. God, please deliver us from crap like this.

That's my list.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 3:57 pm

> id="QUOTE"> border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">>>Quote> id="QUOTE">If it were only the human condition, there are many other venues to fill that niche. Trek is unique and what I feel Abrams failed to grasp.
border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">>>Quote (trekbuff @ July 09 2009, 12:13 pm)


He did miss  some of what TREK is most definitely. The real question on that note is did he do it deliberately or just due the fact he doesn't/didn't have the proper education in regards to what TREK is?

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 4:23 pm

If a new series were to be a spin off of the new Kirk & crew (JJ's three movies) I doubt the movie actors would want to do a television program. I'm sure they want film careers not TV careers. And after seeing Urban's portrayal of Dr. McCoy no one on earth is now allowed to be called Dr. Leonard H. (Bones) McCoy.

Now a USS Kelvin series with Capt Robau and George Kirk would be a cool concept for a series. It can go back in years as much as you want with the Nero encounter being the obvious ending.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 4:29 pm

Quote (exeter276 @ July 09 2009, 4:23 pm)
If a new series were to be a spin off of the new Kirk & crew (JJ's three movies) I doubt the movie actors would want to do a television program. I'm sure they want film careers not TV careers. And after seeing Urban's portrayal of Dr. McCoy no one on earth is now allowed to be called Dr. Leonard H. (Bones) McCoy.

Now a USS Kelvin series with Capt Robau and George Kirk would be a cool concept for a series. It can go back in years as much as you want with the Nero encounter being the obvious ending.

Agreed on all counts.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 4:34 pm

25th Century with the Enterprise F please.  If you want to stick with original trek lets have a show that dosent have a boring ship design and history we already know.  

New ship, new letter of the alphabet (f) and new territory ( wormhole that leads to the large megalenic cloud or even andromeda ).  

we have seen enough of Romulans klingons and the such.  lets explore new territory outside our galaxy and you can have it make sense with a stable wormhole.  many people foget about the large and samll magalenic clouds that are just outside of our galaxy.  who knows what is in there!!

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 4:35 pm

Quote (exeter276 @ July 08 2009, 5:23 pm)
If a new series were to be a spin off of the new Kirk & crew (JJ's three movies) I doubt the movie actors would want to do a television program. I'm sure they want film careers not TV careers. And after seeing Urban's portrayal of Dr. McCoy no one on earth is now allowed to be called Dr. Leonard H. (Bones) McCoy.

Now a USS Kelvin series with Capt Robau and George Kirk would be a cool concept for a series. It can go back in years as much as you want with the Nero encounter being the obvious ending.

i like that idea accept for the way the ship looks

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 9:03 pm

Just an opinion of mine on how they should approach a new TREK series:

There are three options:

1. Traditional TREK episode to episode adventure or DS9 type adventure story arc type series either will work fine neither is 100% original, yet they definately work well.

2. Outer Limits type format TREK  individual stories that are one-offs that can go just about any where and an episode can be revisited at a later date with out hurting the series by infringing on canon.

3. This is the most expensive version of the 3 formats I am suggesting  and would prove to be the most interesting in the long run. Have a given number of ships for example 3 ships with seperate crews that are in no way related yet are all part of a bigger story that doesn't involve story arcs.

For any of these to work the production team needs to be familiar with all types of TREK.

IMO number 3 would be the best and it could cater to more of the fan base than a traditional show would. :logical:

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Report this Jul. 10 2009, 3:47 am

Quote (Vger23 @ July 09 2009, 3:37 pm)
Here is my simple list of wishes if someone somewhere is TRULY thinking of initiating a new Star Trek series.

1. Please don't put it on SyFy. Please don't put it on a major network (I KNOW CBS owns it, please don't point that out to me). I'd love to see it fall to TNT (Rescue Me, The Shield) or HBO (Sopranos) where format is not so restricted and budget would be a little bit better.

2. Please put someone in front of / in charge of it that has some BALLZ. The fans and the viewing audience need to be challenged. Roddenberry's Trek back in the 60s was always pushing the envelope of what was acceptable for a television audience. I think people forget this fact because it was 40+ years ago and things have changed so much since then. A new Star Trek series should also push the envelope and challenge the viewers and fans.

3. Please do NOT try to cater to the fans. Varying segments of the fanbase are going to whine and moan no matter what because "their precious franchise is being changed" (see negative reactions to Star Trek XI). Simply make the most entertaining and high-quality television show possible, provide nods to the fans to keep them happy, and don't ever look back (see positive reactions to Star Trek XI).

4. Please either continue the concept of a TOS reboot / reimagining / whatever OR do something completely new. No "Adventures of Captain Sulu." No "USS Titan" series. Don't be tied into anything where non-fans are going to feel lost and hardcore fans are going to pick it apart for accuracy.

5. Please do NOT put a show on the air until 3-5 years after the last JJ movie has premiered. If anything, history has taught us that over-saturation can seriously hurt a franchise like Star Trek, and it quickly becomes stale and uninteresting to audiences and even fans. Let us ride the wave of the movies for a while, and then bring the show to the airwaves just as the hunger and curiosity for something new is starting to build again.

6. Please make sure that we maintain a show that is a positive outlook on humanity's future without resorting to stiff pseudo-perfect characters, political correctness, sappy preaching, and obvious metaphors. These things worked great in the late 1980s, but are completely lost on the 21st century audience. You can still have a great "vision" without resorting to these tired and stale ways of illustrating it.

7. Please NO FANWANK!! The series format should not be anything like "Captain Max Ryder and his highly skilled team of 25th century Starfleet Explorers, including @#rrtthh3cha his Horta 1st officer, Dr. Jean-Luc Riker (son of Will and Troi Riker, and CMO), Shro-Var his Romulan security officer and Spermy his Sperm Whale Conn Officer." It should have nothing to do with interstellar war between the Gorn, Federation, and Tholians. It should have no time travel / temporal cold-war themes. God, please deliver us from crap like this.

That's my list.

:cool:  :logical:

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Report this Jul. 10 2009, 7:58 am

I'm not over demanding all I want is a Prime Star Trek series on any channel ASAP

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Report this Jul. 10 2009, 9:32 am

So you see startrek.com users, this is how you are supposed to disagree with someone and post your opinions on these message boards. This thread should be sticky to serve as a prime example of how threads are supposed to respectively play out. Great debate guys I am that much smarter for reading this!

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Report this Jul. 10 2009, 9:40 am

Quote (31st_Century_Temporal_Agent @ July 10 2009, 6:32 am)
So you see startrek.com users, this is how you are supposed to disagree with someone and post your opinions on these message boards. This thread should be sticky to serve as a prime example of how threads are supposed to respectively play out. Great debate guys I am that much smarter for reading this!

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