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exeter276

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:03 am

Since the Excelsior Class is my favorite ship I have always wanted to see a series on the Enterprise-B. The "B" has unlimited potential with most of that era unwritten and possibilities endless. I know we had the Enterprise-B in Generations, but hated Ferris Bueller's buddy Cameron as captain. A starship captain IMHO needs to be more assertive and have more of a commanding presence. Ferris's buddy failed horribly for me in that role. The series could start off with a different captain and Cameron got reassigned after their shake down cruise.

http://trekmovie.com/2009....-series

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:23 am

Quote (exeter276 @ July 08 2009, 12:03 pm)
Since the Excelsior Class is my favorite ship I have always wanted to see a series on the Enterprise-B. The "B" has unlimited potential with most of that era unwritten and possibilities endless. I know we had the Enterprise-B in Generations, but hated Ferris Bueller's buddy Cameron as captain. A starship captain IMHO needs to be more assertive and have more of a commanding presence. Ferris's buddy failed horribly for me in that role. The series could start off with a different captain and Cameron got reassigned after their shake down cruise.

http://trekmovie.com/2009....-series

We are overdue for a series about the USS Excelsior with Sulu at the helm! I don't know who would play him, is Takei too old? I don't know but, but I would love to see a series like that.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:28 am

The time frame ( post 'Undiscovered Country' ) would be a great era to explore, i would quite like that, but i doubt it would be set on the 1701-B.
James Kirk became a Legend and was killed defending that ship and it was not even his ship to command.
He was killed by a ship to bear the name Enterprise, with a lot of media observing the event.
that would be a ship that would almost certainly not be launched as any Enterprise that killed Kirk - the man that ships name would be associated with would be concidered bad luck.
who would not shy away from that assighnment?
Even if by some chance there was a Enterprise - B series it would probably be commanded by John Harriman.
Again, it is an era that could use further observation, but i would think Captain Sulu of the USS EXCELLSIOR would be the best bridge from the real true Star Trek to everything that followed .

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:31 am

Quote (Trau @ July 09 2009, 11:28 am)
The time frame ( post 'Undiscovered Country' ) would be a great era to explore, i would quite like that, but i doubt it would be set on the 1701-B.
James Kirk became a Legend and was killed defending that ship and it was not even his ship to command.
He was killed by a ship to bear the name Enterprise, with a lot of media observing the event.
that would be a ship that would almost certainly not be launched as any Enterprise that killed Kirk - the man that ships name would be associated with would be concidered bad luck.
who would not shy away from that assighnment?
Even if by some chance there was a Enterprise - B series it would probably be commanded by John Harriman.
Again, it is an era that could use further observation, but i would think Captain Sulu of the USS EXCELLSIOR would be the best bridge from the real true Star Trek to everything that followed.

Kirk died on the ship, but the ship didn't kill him, but technically he didn't die, he went into the Nexus.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:40 am

In the eyes of the public he did die launching that ship,it would be 80 years before he would be found in the Nexus.
It would stilll be a factor in the ships history it would never shake.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:40 am

I hope its a Prime Universe series then I can rejoin the franchise.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:43 am

Quote (Trau @ July 09 2009, 11:40 am)
In the eyes of the public he did die launching that ship,it would be 80 years before he would be found in the Nexus.
It would stilll be a factor in the ships history it would never shake.

So what did they do with Enterprise-B? Did they place it in mothballs?

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:49 am

Quote (Commander_Zelkar @ July 08 2009, 12:43 pm)
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In the eyes of the public he did die launching that ship,it would be 80 years before he would be found in the Nexus.
It would stilll be a factor in the ships history it would never shake.

So what did they do with Enterprise-B? Did they place it in mothballs?

Other than what we saw in Star trek: Generations that is all we know of the Enterprise B.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 11:57 am

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 09 2009, 11:49 am)
Quote (Commander_Zelkar @ July 08 2009, 12:43 pm)
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In the eyes of the public he did die launching that ship,it would be 80 years before he would be found in the Nexus.
It would stilll be a factor in the ships history it would never shake.

So what did they do with Enterprise-B? Did they place it in mothballs?

Other than what we saw in Star trek: Generations that is all we know of the Enterprise B.

It may be a good prelude to a series featuring the Ent-B.

The ship is in drydock being repaired from the nexus damage. Everyone still reeling from Kirk's death. The current captain being dismissed and another being assigned. The ship being relaunced with something of a dark chapter behind it.

I think it makes for a good story line to begin with.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 12:05 pm

Quote (Commander_Zelkar @ July 09 2009, 11:57 am)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ July 09 2009, 11:49 am)
Quote (Commander_Zelkar @ July 08 2009, 12:43 pm)
Quote (Trau @ July 09 2009, 11:40 am)
In the eyes of the public he did die launching that ship,it would be 80 years before he would be found in the Nexus.
It would stilll be a factor in the ships history it would never shake.

So what did they do with Enterprise-B? Did they place it in mothballs?

Other than what we saw in Star trek: Generations that is all we know of the Enterprise B.

It may be a good prelude to a series featuring the Ent-B.

The ship is in drydock being repaired from the nexus damage. Everyone still reeling from Kirk's death. The current captain being dismissed and another being assigned. The ship being relaunced with something of a dark chapter behind it.

I think it makes for a good story line to begin with.

Agreed Commander Zelker it would be an awesome beginning to the opening of the series, and just mentioning Kirk in the pilot episode would give a nod to TOS fans. I also agree that the Enterprise-B would not be put into mothballs, I mean heck starfleet personnel die everyday on their ships and you can't scrap a ship (especially a new one like Enterprise-B in Generations) just because someone dies.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 12:43 pm

Ironically enough they could do a show based on the ENT-C starting with her launch and leading up to the events seen/mentioned in "Yesterdays Enterprise" which would prove rather interesting to say the least! :logical:

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 12:52 pm

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 1:02 pm

A likely fate For the ENTERPRISE - B would be for the ship to be put in the Fleet Museum, a morbid curiosity, but if she was put in service i expect Star Fleet would have quietly repaired the damages, publicly listed it as dismantled and re Christened her under a new name and registration.

I wrote something similar years ago, it quietly became the prototype U.S.S. LEGACY, commanded by Commodore Terrant Montgommery (un-like all the previous Captains he was not an Earth native) .
I can close my eyes and see that ship : the Naccels were re-configured for higher velocity and a third was added for cruising valences.
It had heavy armor and Anti Proton beams (not Phasers), as well as high speed Torpedo launchers rigged into prototype replicators configured to construct Torpedos and at a fast clip.
In short it was Star Fleets prototype for a Battleship.
Her mission was deep,DEEP space exploration, she was heavily armed and crewed by specialists since most of the Galaxy was (and would remain) a hostile enviroment with hostile Aliens.
The only indicator of the ships dubiouse past was the ENTERPRISE - B dedication plaque on the Commodores desk beside his bas relief model of his home.

Again i mention this because it was not a bad idea, i developed it for a good long time but ultimately it will go nowhere - many people have come up with terrific ideas but almost none of them will be heard, as far as that goes anything posted here can be suborned by the Company for their own use.
CBS/Paramount said they wanted to put the Star Trek TV franchise to bed and i can respect that, but if they were to re concider it than it is anyones guess what the end result would be.

Suffice to say if they have the wrong person at the helm then it will simply be throwing good Money after bad.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 2:10 pm

The post title is misleading.
That article says they are looking for a new space opera series.
It says nothing about that series being Star Trek.

Edit: I see starbase63 beat me to it.
My apologies.

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Report this Jul. 09 2009, 2:15 pm

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[quote=trekbuff,July 09 2009, 9:43 am]DS9 was a space station. It was a seven year arc. It was an interesting show, but it was not Trek.

Quite the opposite is true. If anything it is the most TREK of any of the series based off of TOS. Remember Star Trek in all its forms is about "Boldly Going Where No One Has Gone Before".
And about the only place the space station boldly went was closer to the worm hole. "Boldly Going" meant exploring, seeing what's out there. DS9 rarely did that.


Remember Star Trek is about exploring the human condition first and foremost, if they happen to be exploring space as well that's a side benefit. That's TREK's true definition of exploring and we both know that. So in short the "not exploring space" argument really doesn't apply.

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It most definitely went where no one has gone before and is probably the most original of any of the Star Trek series.

The claim of its being "not TREK" is about as far from the truth as anyone can get.

With all due respect. :D
It was certainly the most original Trek series after ST(TOS). Saying it is my third favorite Trek series really doesn't do it justice. It was not, however, Trek or a trek. Going where no other Trek series had/has gone was a bold creative decision, but that's the inside looking out.

See Trek is about being on the inside and looking out, regardless of it's being from a ship or station. That once again is part of exploring the human condition regardless of where it does or doesn't take us. ¿;)



Very good episode, and you do realize that it was good because it was exploring the H.C. ¿ ;)

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My favorite episode of DS9 and easily in my top ten episodes from all of Trek - Explorers.
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Would Marco Polo be as famous or interesting if he had only explored Venice, Italy? Getting away from exploration is what led to the decline in DS9 viewers. Those folks sure missed a lot of wonderful stories....

Well being famous doesn't translate to being interesting. The reasons that lead Marco Polo to explore(other than the obvious) are just as interesting, if not more so than what he ended up discovering.

What lead to the decline in veiwers had more to do with two things:

1 st and foremost a more competitive market that it had when it started AND in comparison to the market when TNG was airing.
(I don't think I need to break down that argument yet again)

2 The market itself had grown beyound being TREK only.

I can guarantee for a fact if it had aired when TNG aired the ratings would probably been extremely higher than what they ended up being.

The fact that it did amazingly well considered it competed with B5 and to a limited extent VOY, not to mention Sea Quest, Hercules and Xena. Showed that it was amazing regardless of what the rating reflected.

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