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Republican should be happy Palin resigned

RomanLion

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 7:22 am

When John McCain picked Sarah Palin, I was initially thrilled. I thought this was a great pick- a social conservative, someone who could help him make a play for the women's vote, a Washington outsider.

Then I realized what a bad pick it was. She had less experience than Obama (thereby undercutting McCain's best argument against him), really didn't seem to know much about foreign affairs or national policy, and had a personal life right out of a Jerry Springer episode.  

The tragedy is, while most sensible people could see this was a ploy that failed, so many in the GOP pinned their hopes on this woman, even though it was pretty clear she wasn't up to the job.

If there was any debate on this, her resignation last week should have put an end to it, but it didn't.

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 8:00 am

As an independent voter I am sure of a couple of things.

No matter what Sarah Palin does the politics of personal destruction will trump any good she could possibly do.

I also know that as long as personal attacks and comments on her family are considered fair game no one but the media chosen or annointed will ever get a chance.

The media fuled the fires that the Democrats and the left ignited. All of them turned out to be unfounded.

Reporting on the chosen one's past and family was verbotten.

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 8:27 am

Quote (Corwin8 @ July 08 2009, 5:00 am)
As an independent voter I am sure of a couple of things.

No matter what Sarah Palin does the politics of personal destruction will trump any good she could possibly do.

I also know that as long as personal attacks and comments on her family are considered fair game no one but the media chosen or annointed will ever get a chance.

The media fuled the fires that the Democrats and the left ignited. All of them turned out to be unfounded.

Reporting on the chosen one's past and family was verbotten.

He never did produce a certified U.S. birth certificate, did he?

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 9:55 am

Quote (RomanLion @ July 07 2009, 8:22 am)
The tragedy is, while most sensible people could see this was a ploy that failed, so many in the GOP pinned their hopes on this woman, even though it was pretty clear she wasn't up to the job.

People around the U.S. LOVE Palin. She represents a large majority of conservatives.

The leftist media and the liberal Democrats are scared to DEATH of this woman. And it showed by how hard the media went out of their way to destroy Palins chances of doing anything in the political world.

She was a noob to the leftist media world when McCain picked her for VP. Giver her some time to get more than just her feet in the water.

I haven't lost any respect for Palin, and when she comes back to the leftist ruled media, I hope shes got guns a blazin'.

Oh, and why does this thread reek of that Kosh guy?
:D

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 10:09 am

She's one hot MILF!

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 10:16 am

Two things. First most people should just accept her decision and leave it alone. She made a decision that she thought was best for her state and her family. Constant unfounded allegations and investigations (things I may add would never have happened if she were a democrat) have ended up costing the state millions of dollars. Personal attacks against her and her family have just taken their toll.

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Then I realized what a bad pick it was. She had less experience than Obama (thereby undercutting McCain's best argument against him), really didn't seem to know much about foreign affairs or national policy, and had a personal life right out of a Jerry Springer episode.  


Actually, Palin started her political career BEFORE Obama did, which gives her more experience. Not by much, but she does. Also, as a state governor she has more executive experience - even more than McCain.
As for Palin's personally life. I don't see what the controversy was about. Her daughter was 17 and pregnant. Happens to thousands of people across the country. She has a baby with downs? These two things make her Jerry Springer worthy? She probably has the most down to Earth family I've ever seen. These are the type of people I know and live by. The family down the street.

How about Obama's messed up family life. Obama's background makes Palin's look like a Picket Fences. Born to a white teenage mother, abandoned by a his black father, avid drug use, etc. But yet, these are all perfectly acceptable for him because why? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's fairly well adjusted now, and has what seems to be a wonderful family, and I've never brought up any of these things as a knock against his political career (his middle name and race are two things I NEVER bring up because they are immaterial).

The Hypocrisy is astounding.

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 10:59 am

Quote (RomanLion @ July 08 2009, 7:22 am)
The tragedy is, while most sensible people could see this was a ploy that failed, so many in the GOP pinned their hopes on this woman, even though it was pretty clear she wasn't up to the job.

Which tells you wat a rudderless ship the Republican party is right now.

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 12:03 pm

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Then I realized what a bad pick it was. She had less experience than Obama (thereby undercutting McCain's best argument against him), really didn't seem to know much about foreign affairs or national policy, and had a personal life right out of a Jerry Springer episode.  

The tragedy is, while most sensible people could see this was a ploy that failed, so many in the GOP pinned their hopes on this woman, even though it was pretty clear she wasn't up to the job.


First here experience level is equal to that of Obama as she started into politics before Obama and has much more executive experience.  Also how does her lack of experience undermine any of McCain's experience?  Really as Vice President she really doesn't need foreign or national policy experience as the Vice Presidents only real role is to be the President of the Senate and break a tie vote.

As for a private life out of Jerry Springer you haven't watch much Jerry Springer have you?

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 6:22 pm

Quote (RomanLion @ July 07 2009, 8:22 am)
When John McCain picked Sarah Palin, I was initially thrilled. I thought this was a great pick- a social conservative, someone who could help him make a play for the women's vote, a Washington outsider.

Then I realized what a bad pick it was. She had less experience than Obama (thereby undercutting McCain's best argument against him), really didn't seem to know much about foreign affairs or national policy, and had a personal life right out of a Jerry Springer episode. ¿

The tragedy is, while most sensible people could see this was a ploy that failed, so many in the GOP pinned their hopes on this woman, even though it was pretty clear she wasn't up to the job.

If there was any debate on this, her resignation last week should have put an end to it, but it didn't.

Standard run of the mill BS.

RomanLion

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 7:05 pm

Quote (Red_Shirt_Casualty @ July 08 2009, 10:16 am)
Two things. First most people should just accept her decision and leave it alone. She made a decision that she thought was best for her state and her family. Constant unfounded allegations and investigations (things I may add would never have happened if she were a democrat) have ended up costing the state millions of dollars. Personal attacks against her and her family have just taken their toll.

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Then I realized what a bad pick it was. She had less experience than Obama (thereby undercutting McCain's best argument against him), really didn't seem to know much about foreign affairs or national policy, and had a personal life right out of a Jerry Springer episode. ¿


Actually, Palin started her political career BEFORE Obama did, which gives her more experience. Not by much, but she does. Also, as a state governor she has more executive experience - even more than McCain.
As for Palin's personally life. I don't see what the controversy was about. Her daughter was 17 and pregnant. Happens to thousands of people across the country. She has a baby with downs? These two things make her Jerry Springer worthy? She probably has the most down to Earth family I've ever seen. These are the type of people I know and live by. The family down the street.

How about Obama's messed up family life. Obama's background makes Palin's look like a Picket Fences. Born to a white teenage mother, abandoned by a his black father, avid drug use, etc. But yet, these are all perfectly acceptable for him because why? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's fairly well adjusted now, and has what seems to be a wonderful family, and I've never brought up any of these things as a knock against his political career (his middle name and race are two things I NEVER bring up because they are immaterial).

The Hypocrisy is astounding.

If you didn't want to bring up his race, why did you mention the races of both his parents...

First, I wouldn't say that the allegations were unfounded. Some of them were nonsense, but a few were on the money, like using her office to try to fire her brother in law.

Second, her daughter was 17 and pregnant with the child of the local drug dealer's son, who was allowed to stay at the house for "sleepovers".  Then after the campaign, Palin got into a public fued with the kid.

Personally, I'm all for leaving her decision alone, as long as she goes away and never comes back.

You know, the problem is the GOP really does have some bright people in it. Gov. Barbour of MI or Gov. Riley or Gov. Pawlenty.  Guys who ran states with real issues. But Palin is the TV star, even though it's kind of obvious even in Alaska, she's in way over her head.

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 7:07 pm

What job was she not up to?  What does a vice president do?

The answer; Nothing.

Yeah, she'd break a tie in the senate...  Big deal.  The VP does absolutely nothing.

RomanLion

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 7:14 pm

Quote (chr3335 @ July 08 2009, 12:03 pm)
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Then I realized what a bad pick it was. She had less experience than Obama (thereby undercutting McCain's best argument against him), really didn't seem to know much about foreign affairs or national policy, and had a personal life right out of a Jerry Springer episode. ¿

The tragedy is, while most sensible people could see this was a ploy that failed, so many in the GOP pinned their hopes on this woman, even though it was pretty clear she wasn't up to the job.


First here experience level is equal to that of Obama as she started into politics before Obama and has much more executive experience. ¿Also how does her lack of experience undermine any of McCain's experience? ¿Really as Vice President she really doesn't need foreign or national policy experience as the Vice Presidents only real role is to be the President of the Senate and break a tie vote.

As for a private life out of Jerry Springer you haven't watch much Jerry Springer have you?

You leave out the Vice-President's most important job. To become President if the president dies or is incapacitated. Eight Vice Presidents have become President in this way. Nine if you count Jerry Ford.

With McCain you had a very solid level of experience, but he was 72 years old. The presidency ages a man... Look at this side by side of George W. Bush from 2000 and 2009...



Now put a 72 year old man in that position and his backup is a woman with as thin a resume as Palin's.

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 7:16 pm

Quote (akebono62 @ July 08 2009, 8:27 am)
Quote (Corwin8 @ July 08 2009, 5:00 am)
As an independent voter I am sure of a couple of things.

No matter what Sarah Palin does the politics of personal destruction will trump any good she could possibly do.

I also know that as long as personal attacks and comments on her family are considered fair game no one but the media chosen or annointed will ever get a chance.

The media fuled the fires that the Democrats and the left ignited. All of them turned out to be unfounded.

Reporting on the chosen one's past and family was verbotten.

He never did produce a certified U.S. birth certificate, did he?

He was born in Kenya, you know....

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 8:58 pm

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Second, her daughter was 17 and pregnant with the child of the local drug dealer's son, who was allowed to stay at the house for "sleepovers".  Then after the campaign, Palin got into a public fued with the kid.

Your point?  Can you provide a source for information that says the daughter's boyfriend was a drug dealer or that Palin and her daughter had a fight.

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Report this Jul. 08 2009, 8:59 pm

Quote (chr3335 @ July 07 2009, 11:58 pm)
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First, I wouldn't say that the allegations were unfounded. Some of them were nonsense, but a few were on the money, like using her office to try to fire her brother in law.
¿Um you mean the brother in law who tasered his ten year old step son and threatened Palin's father. ¿If this guy wasn't Palin's brother in law it would be a none issue to fire a guy who is clearly not what the Alaska Highway Patrol wants on their staff.

You really need to love how people have sympathy for the guy who tazered his 10 year old but scorn for the woman who got him fired.

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