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"11:  59" Appreciation Thread

Ndirsch11

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 5:31 pm

Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 12:22 pm)
I appriciate the fact that you articulated your position well - So many people just say "I'm right and your opinion sucks" that it's nice to see someone put an intellegent argument up.

That being said, I completely and totally disagree. ¿This episode was completely bereft of any drama, suspense or imagination. ¿It's an episode that promises to be special while delivering no more energy than a filler episode, and is completely and totally BORING!

I think that's what it comes down to. ¿I watch science fiction to watch starships, aliens and morality plays, not a guy in a book store who refuses to leave.

I might have agreed with you if the episode had been about, say, Shannon O'Donnell's colonoscopy procedure.  I always liked "11:  59" and I insist that it was a good (even a great) episode.  It had a clear idea of what it was about and the story was engaging.

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 5:34 pm

Quote (Admiral_JTK @ July 07 2009, 4:23 pm)
This isnt the closed reality of Lurx.

Who is this Lurx person?  I've never heard of him before.   :laugh:  :sarcastic:

SLagonia

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 5:35 pm

Quote (Ndirsch11 @ July 06 2009, 8:31 pm)
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 12:22 pm)
I appriciate the fact that you articulated your position well - So many people just say "I'm right and your opinion sucks" that it's nice to see someone put an intellegent argument up.

That being said, I completely and totally disagree. ?This episode was completely bereft of any drama, suspense or imagination. ?It's an episode that promises to be special while delivering no more energy than a filler episode, and is completely and totally BORING!

I think that's what it comes down to. ?I watch science fiction to watch starships, aliens and morality plays, not a guy in a book store who refuses to leave.

I might have agreed with you if the episode had been about, say, Shannon O'Donnell's colonoscopy procedure. ¿I always liked "11: ¿59" and I insist that it was a good (even a great) episode. ¿It had a clear idea of what it was about and the story was engaging.

:laugh: Honestly, I think getting a colonoscopy is more entertaining than watching this episode.

It's really hard for me to properly review this episode because I feel like I'd be reviewing a slab of concrete.  I can't really point to anything flawed about the concept or the episode itself besides the fact that nothing interesting happens.  I was just bored.

I suppose that would put this episode above episodes like Elogium or Twisted, where pretty much every aspect of the episode was flawed.  This one was just...  Well, boring.

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 7:54 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ July 06 2009, 10:35 pm)
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 4:15 pm)
The 'You' is the hypothetical individual who writes episodes. ¿Example: If you're going to make a salad, you'd better include lettuce. ¿Or; If you're going to write an episode where it's not sci-fi, you have to have a sci-fi tie-in somewhere.
In this case, the pronoun should be one or, maybe, they. When one is speaking to another and says "you" they are addressing that person. I've said this twice now and you are still using "you."

I'm not writing a Shakespearian play.  No one outside of literature speaks that way.  I type the way I speak.

Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 4:15 pm)
And again, I really, really want to know how I belittled anyone?
I've also covered this at least twice...

Someone says they like something and says why. Someone else says the first person spoke eloquently then follows with:
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 12:22 pm)
That being said, I completely and totally disagree.  This episode was completely bereft of any drama, suspense or imagination.  It's an episode that promises to be special while delivering no more energy than a filler episode, and is completely and totally BORING!
Saying someone speaks well then basically saying multiple times in multiple ways that everything they said is wrong and you still don't get it?

I even gave you an example of what you've been doing and that didn't help. The quotes in that post aren't screwy, they follow the progression of your digging a blithering hole and not making any sense. It's easy to follow, point by point.


Are you kidding me?  So in your opinion, if I am to disagree publicly with anyone, I am belittleing them?  That's pretty ridiculous...  Though maybe even moreso because you're doing the same thing to me.  You're telling me that my opinion is invalid because I just don't get it.  I think that's a little worse than saying "I respect your opinion but I think you're wrong."  So which one of us is more at fault here?

Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 5:35 pm)
:laugh: Honestly, I think getting a colonoscopy is more entertaining than watching this episode.You simple don't get it or don't care.

It's about time you start to grow up.  If you are offended by people having fun on a message board by speaking about an episode, then you really shouldn't be here.

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 8:46 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ July 06 2009, 11:32 pm)
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 7:54 pm)
I'm not writing a Shakespearian play. ?No one outside of literature speaks that way. I type the way I speak.
No, it's called English. Good ol' 'mercan English.

Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 7:54 pm)
Are you kidding me? ?So in your opinion, if I am to disagree publicly with anyone, I am belittleing them? ?That's pretty ridiculous... ?Though maybe even moreso because you're doing the same thing to me. ?You're telling me that my opinion is invalid because I just don't get it. ?I think that's a little worse than saying "I respect your opinion but I think you're wrong." ?So which one of us is more at fault here?
You've been doing it this entire thread. The thread I posted you said was screwy clearly covered what you've been doing. I've said your opinion is just as valid and why the way you express it is insulting. Other folks have said they don't like the episode and didn't quote any one else to negate their liking it.

What you don't get is your superior attitude and the abrasive way you express yourself. I'm not the only one who noticed it. What was your responce to them? "Er... What?"

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.  How is expressing an opinion the same as having a superior attitude?

Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 7:54 pm)
It's about time you start to grow up. ?If you are offended by people having fun on a message board by speaking about an episode, then you really shouldn't be here.
You laughing at Ndirsch11's July 06 2009, 8:31 pm post is not people having fun. What you don't understand is someone agreeing with me for standing up to your arrogance and following anyone who likes the episode with your rebuttles and how you hate it.

I speak English and clearly (usually) say what I mean. I have not even insinuated insults toward you or that your opinion is somehow invalid. You, however, have.

Now I'm really lost.  Me and NDirsch were having fun with each other.  Am I the only one who finds it a little ironic that the only person here who doesn't have a problem with me disagreeing with NDirsch is NDirsch?  He recognized it as a legitimate discussion, and then we fooled around for a few posts.  

You really need to spend more time on the forums before you begin to pass judgement on people.  If you can't recognize two posters having a legitimate discussion or a good-hearted laugh, then stop telling us we can't have those things.

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 9:07 pm

Quote (Ndirsch11 @ July 07 2009, 5:31 pm)
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 12:22 pm)
I appriciate the fact that you articulated your position well - So many people just say "I'm right and your opinion sucks" that it's nice to see someone put an intellegent argument up.

That being said, I completely and totally disagree. ?This episode was completely bereft of any drama, suspense or imagination. ?It's an episode that promises to be special while delivering no more energy than a filler episode, and is completely and totally BORING!

I think that's what it comes down to. ?I watch science fiction to watch starships, aliens and morality plays, not a guy in a book store who refuses to leave.

I might have agreed with you if the episode had been about, say, Shannon O'Donnell's colonoscopy procedure. ¿I always liked "11: ¿59" and I insist that it was a good (even a great) episode. ¿It had a clear idea of what it was about and the story was engaging.

That's why I think it;s a great holiday ep., it's about discovering family.

Janeway was discovering the history of Shannon, while Shannon was discovering the makings of her own family with Henry Janeway.  Meanwhile back on Voyager, the crew is becoming a stronger family by gathering and sharing stories of their family histories.  Not to mention it takes place in between Christmas and New Years.  The story is multi-layered on so many levels.

Great w/ hot chocolate and Apple Cider donuts. :D

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 9:59 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ July 07 2009, 12:47 am)
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 8:46 pm)
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. ?How is expressing an opinion the same as having a superior attitude?
I really do understand that you have no idea what I'm talking about. I've been running in circles attempting to explain it to you. It's all in my posts. exodus201 understood and said so only to receive, "Er.. What?"

Paying someone a compliment on how well they articulate then trashing what they said and their thread somehow seems perfectly reasonable to you. Ndirsch11 says again that he(?) always liked 11:59 and insists "that it was a good (even a great) episode" and you respond with, ":laugh: Honestly, I think getting a colonoscopy is more entertaining than watching this episode" and further ridicule of the episode and you think that's having fun? Maybe Ndirsch11 is simply being a nice person. They tried to rebut the things you've been saying and all they receive is demeaning laughter for their opinion and further ridicule of the appreciated subject they started the thread for.

Ya know what's ironic? Ndirsch11 began the thread. As exodus201 pointed out, the title of the thread is "11:59" Appreciation Thread.

Yep, I totally understand you have no idea what I'm talking about.

You figure it out. Read the thread a few times. I really have nothing new to say.

Ok, I really need to ask - How long have you been visiting message boards?  Can you not figure out the difference between a friendly conversation and someone being insulting?  Me and NDirsch were having a good time, why do you insist on insulting me for my part in the conversation?

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:17 pm

No smilies.

NDirsch hasn't posted one and hasn't addressed your reply.  
How do you know the good time is mutual? :question:

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:19 pm

Quote (exodus201 @ July 07 2009, 1:17 am)
No smilies.

NDirsch hasn't posted one and hasn't addressed your reply. ¿
How do you know the good time is mutual? :question:

Because he's a sensible human being who enjoys a good discussion?

He cracked a joke - I cracked one back.  Why is this a problem?

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:25 pm

Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 10:19 pm)
Quote (exodus201 @ July 07 2009, 1:17 am)
No smilies.

NDirsch hasn't posted one and hasn't addressed your reply. ?
How do you know the good time is mutual? :question:

Because he's a sensible human being who enjoys a good discussion?

He cracked a joke - I cracked one back. ¿Why is this a problem?

Just asking.

Seeing that NDirsch is sensible, he'd just probably you know post   :laugh:  if he was making a joke.  Wouldn't wanna assume, you know.

Just throwing that out there.

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:33 pm

Quote (exodus201 @ July 07 2009, 1:25 am)
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 10:19 pm)
Quote (exodus201 @ July 07 2009, 1:17 am)
No smilies.

NDirsch hasn't posted one and hasn't addressed your reply. ?
How do you know the good time is mutual? :question:

Because he's a sensible human being who enjoys a good discussion?

He cracked a joke - I cracked one back. ?Why is this a problem?

Just asking.

Seeing that NDirsch is sensible, he'd just probably you know post ¿ :laugh: ¿if he was making a joke. ¿Wouldn't wanna assume, you know.

Just throwing that out there.

He said;

"I might have agreed with you if the episode had been about, say, Shannon O'Donnell's colonoscopy procedure."

That was funny.  I laughed...  Out loud.  I cracked a joke back.  I'm not sure why you have a problem with it.

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:37 pm

Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 10:33 pm)
?I'm not sure why you have a problem with it.

You never ask yourself why you say this allot?

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:41 pm

Quote (exodus201 @ July 07 2009, 1:37 am)
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 10:33 pm)
?I'm not sure why you have a problem with it.

You never ask yourself why you say this allot?

And do you ever ask why you seem to be the only one who has a problem?  Why is it the people you claim I'm victimizing continue having intellegent conversations with me while you keep telling me I'm not treating them right?

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:46 pm

For the record, I'm staying neutral regarding this fight.  I don't want to participate in it.  I said all I needed to say about the episode and that's that.  I already knew that Slagonia hated "11:  59" so his post didn't surprise me.  I'm used to it.

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:48 pm

Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 10:41 pm)
Quote (exodus201 @ July 07 2009, 1:37 am)
Quote (SLagonia @ July 07 2009, 10:33 pm)
?I'm not sure why you have a problem with it.

You never ask yourself why you say this allot?

And do you ever ask why you seem to be the only one who has a problem? ¿Why is it the people you claim I'm victimizing continue having intellegent conversations with me while you keep telling me I'm not treating them right?

Where do you come up with this stuff? :laugh:


Please show me proof of these tp support these  claims?

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