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OT: Impressions of Transformers 2

Camorite

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 8:17 pm

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At the time of this post Transformers 2: Rise of the Fallen has been in theaters for a week now. Personally i loved the movie, but then again i have been a fan of that franchise for as long as i have been a fan of trek (if not a little longer), so much that i watched it twice in one day (first in the theater then at the local drive in with Trek as the second movie).

So my question is what did trek fans who saw the movie think of it?

Is it a parody? Like 'HOT SHOTS 2'? Where is Charlie Sheen, then?
Gags, gags, gags, gags, silly gags. 'AMERICAN PIE 2' is far more serious.
Humor, humor, humor. Silly humor.
Videoclip-like, slow-motion sequences everywhere.
NO Autobots in the second half (Egypt). Only two horrid comic reliefs and Bumblebee.
Contrived and convoluted story. Huge plot holes.
Small, laughing robots everywhere. Small, laughing robots which don't resemble Transformers at all. And they star on 80% of the movie. Fail.

TERMINATRIX: how can a Decepticon simulate human skin? (T3 RIP OFF).
JETFIRE: an ancient DECEPTICON which can convert into an ultra-modern BLACKBIRD plane? "ANCIENT"? What?
ALL-SPARK: so you can revive or kill Transformers so easily. Wow.
OPTIMUS: He is a "PRIME". Megatron is his brother. Why isn't Megatron a "PRIME" too?

Seven Primes sacrificed THEIR BODIES to protect the Matrix of the Leadership. Why did Shia Whatever penetrate into the "mechanical tomb" so easily to take the Matrix? Oh.

Overall speaking, the action is hollow and confused, the direction is terrible, the acting is sub-zero, everything related to this movie is just plain horrid.

This is the worst movie of the last 2 decades. The worst one.

TRANSFORMERS 1 was a good movie. This is not even a "movie". Just an
excuse to make money. Congrats, America.

Amen!

my case in point aobut closed minded people that are too stupid to understand this film, thanks for the help exodus

Oh C'mon, seriously... I said in another thread that I had to switch my brain off to enjoy Transformers 2, it may be a box office smash, but it's no masterpiece. I'm not bashing, and I respect that you like it, but it's a very transparent movie in the way it tries to please the audience.

if that is what you think then so be it, as i stated before i am only interested in bashing those who's complaints about the movie are so rediculously transparent that they are either stupid or just good for nothing trolls.

But i will ask that if you do see the movie agian that you don't, as you put it, shut your brain off. You might find that you missed some deeper meaning of the movie.

exodus201

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 10:02 pm

Quote (Camorite @ July 11 2009, 1:40 pm)
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At the time of this post Transformers 2: Rise of the Fallen has been in theaters for a week now. Personally i loved the movie, but then again i have been a fan of that franchise for as long as i have been a fan of trek (if not a little longer), so much that i watched it twice in one day (first in the theater then at the local drive in with Trek as the second movie).

So my question is what did trek fans who saw the movie think of it?

Is it a parody? Like 'HOT SHOTS 2'? Where is Charlie Sheen, then?
Gags, gags, gags, gags, silly gags. 'AMERICAN PIE 2' is far more serious.
Humor, humor, humor. Silly humor.
Videoclip-like, slow-motion sequences everywhere.
NO Autobots in the second half (Egypt). Only two horrid comic reliefs and Bumblebee.
Contrived and convoluted story. Huge plot holes.
Small, laughing robots everywhere. Small, laughing robots which don't resemble Transformers at all. And they star on 80% of the movie. Fail.

TERMINATRIX: how can a Decepticon simulate human skin? (T3 RIP OFF).
JETFIRE: an ancient DECEPTICON which can convert into an ultra-modern BLACKBIRD plane? "ANCIENT"? What?
ALL-SPARK: so you can revive or kill Transformers so easily. Wow.
OPTIMUS: He is a "PRIME". Megatron is his brother. Why isn't Megatron a "PRIME" too?

Seven Primes sacrificed THEIR BODIES to protect the Matrix of the Leadership. Why did Shia Whatever penetrate into the "mechanical tomb" so easily to take the Matrix? Oh.

Overall speaking, the action is hollow and confused, the direction is terrible, the acting is sub-zero, everything related to this movie is just plain horrid.

This is the worst movie of the last 2 decades. The worst one.

TRANSFORMERS 1 was a good movie. This is not even a "movie". Just an
excuse to make money. Congrats, America.

Amen!

my case in point aobut closed minded people that are too stupid to understand this film, thanks for the help exodus

Then don't ask the question if you can't be adult enough to handle the answers. ?People aren't stupid nor are they trolls for not liking a film whos only deeper meaning is to sell toys.  However, if you feel the need to hurl personal insults at people over opinions that are no threat to you over a film like this, then maybe you need to re-evaluate your own state of mind. ;)

Valdena

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 10:22 pm

Transf II was ok. Long...hehe but ok.

Camorite

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Report this Jul. 13 2009, 12:01 am

Quote (exodus201 @ July 12 2009, 10:02 pm)
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Quote (exodus201 @ July 11 2009, 1:37 pm)
Quote (The_Corbomite_Maneuver_Man @ July 11 2009, 5:26 am)
Quote (Camorite @ July 01 2009, 1:13 pm)
At the time of this post Transformers 2: Rise of the Fallen has been in theaters for a week now. Personally i loved the movie, but then again i have been a fan of that franchise for as long as i have been a fan of trek (if not a little longer), so much that i watched it twice in one day (first in the theater then at the local drive in with Trek as the second movie).

So my question is what did trek fans who saw the movie think of it?

Is it a parody? Like 'HOT SHOTS 2'? Where is Charlie Sheen, then?
Gags, gags, gags, gags, silly gags. 'AMERICAN PIE 2' is far more serious.
Humor, humor, humor. Silly humor.
Videoclip-like, slow-motion sequences everywhere.
NO Autobots in the second half (Egypt). Only two horrid comic reliefs and Bumblebee.
Contrived and convoluted story. Huge plot holes.
Small, laughing robots everywhere. Small, laughing robots which don't resemble Transformers at all. And they star on 80% of the movie. Fail.

TERMINATRIX: how can a Decepticon simulate human skin? (T3 RIP OFF).
JETFIRE: an ancient DECEPTICON which can convert into an ultra-modern BLACKBIRD plane? "ANCIENT"? What?
ALL-SPARK: so you can revive or kill Transformers so easily. Wow.
OPTIMUS: He is a "PRIME". Megatron is his brother. Why isn't Megatron a "PRIME" too?

Seven Primes sacrificed THEIR BODIES to protect the Matrix of the Leadership. Why did Shia Whatever penetrate into the "mechanical tomb" so easily to take the Matrix? Oh.

Overall speaking, the action is hollow and confused, the direction is terrible, the acting is sub-zero, everything related to this movie is just plain horrid.

This is the worst movie of the last 2 decades. The worst one.

TRANSFORMERS 1 was a good movie. This is not even a "movie". Just an
excuse to make money. Congrats, America.

Amen!

my case in point aobut closed minded people that are too stupid to understand this film, thanks for the help exodus

Then don't ask the question if you can't be adult enough to handle the answers. ?People aren't stupid nor are they trolls for not liking a film whos only deeper meaning is to sell toys. ¿However, if you feel the need to hurl personal insults at people over opinions that are no threat to you over a film like this, then maybe you need to re-evaluate your own state of mind. ;)

Obviously you have not idea of how to read previos posts. The resons that you dislike the movie are trivial and rediculously stupid, and have, for the most part, been explained away.

And also to repeat myself i have no problem with prople not enjoying the film so long as they are not useing idiodic and easily explained BS.

You don't like the movie, that is your right, but at least show some freaken intelegence behind your reasoning, and not just follow the crowd.

exodus201

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Report this Jul. 13 2009, 8:59 am

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Quote (Camorite @ July 01 2009, 1:13 pm)
At the time of this post Transformers 2: Rise of the Fallen has been in theaters for a week now. Personally i loved the movie, but then again i have been a fan of that franchise for as long as i have been a fan of trek (if not a little longer), so much that i watched it twice in one day (first in the theater then at the local drive in with Trek as the second movie).

So my question is what did trek fans who saw the movie think of it?

Is it a parody? Like 'HOT SHOTS 2'? Where is Charlie Sheen, then?
Gags, gags, gags, gags, silly gags. 'AMERICAN PIE 2' is far more serious.
Humor, humor, humor. Silly humor.
Videoclip-like, slow-motion sequences everywhere.
NO Autobots in the second half (Egypt). Only two horrid comic reliefs and Bumblebee.
Contrived and convoluted story. Huge plot holes.
Small, laughing robots everywhere. Small, laughing robots which don't resemble Transformers at all. And they star on 80% of the movie. Fail.

TERMINATRIX: how can a Decepticon simulate human skin? (T3 RIP OFF).
JETFIRE: an ancient DECEPTICON which can convert into an ultra-modern BLACKBIRD plane? "ANCIENT"? What?
ALL-SPARK: so you can revive or kill Transformers so easily. Wow.
OPTIMUS: He is a "PRIME". Megatron is his brother. Why isn't Megatron a "PRIME" too?

Seven Primes sacrificed THEIR BODIES to protect the Matrix of the Leadership. Why did Shia Whatever penetrate into the "mechanical tomb" so easily to take the Matrix? Oh.

Overall speaking, the action is hollow and confused, the direction is terrible, the acting is sub-zero, everything related to this movie is just plain horrid.

This is the worst movie of the last 2 decades. The worst one.

TRANSFORMERS 1 was a good movie. This is not even a "movie". Just an
excuse to make money. Congrats, America.

Amen!

my case in point aobut closed minded people that are too stupid to understand this film, thanks for the help exodus

Then don't ask the question if you can't be adult enough to handle the answers. ?People aren't stupid nor are they trolls for not liking a film whos only deeper meaning is to sell toys. ?However, if you feel the need to hurl personal insults at people over opinions that are no threat to you over a film like this, then maybe you need to re-evaluate your own state of mind. ;)

Obviously you have not idea of how to read previos posts. The resons that you dislike the movie are trivial and rediculously stupid, and have, for the most part, been explained away.

And also to repeat myself i have no problem with prople not enjoying the film so long as they are not useing idiodic and easily explained BS.

You don't like the movie, that is your right, but at least show some freaken intelegence behind your reasoning, and not just follow the crowd.

:laugh:

You need to follow the crowd to a library because you don't even have the "intelligence" to know enough to proofread.

Camorite

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Report this Jul. 13 2009, 10:26 am

whatever looser. I refuse to waist my time with the likes of you any longer. Maybe if you would actually would try to debate the subject instead of being a follower to others thoughts then it would be totally different, but obviously that isn't the case here. so long looser.

exodus201

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Report this Jul. 13 2009, 10:30 am

Quote (Camorite @ July 13 2009, 10:26 am)
whatever looser, you have already decided to allow rediculously stupid and easy to explain things effect what you think about the movie so there is no point in argueing anymore. maybe next time we can have an intelgent conversation, but to be honest, i really doubt it.

:laugh:

English?

Try worrying less about people opinions of Transformers and learn how to write.

Camorite

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Report this Jul. 13 2009, 10:48 am

where did you get that at, must have made it up. :laugh:

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Report this Jul. 13 2009, 10:13 pm

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TERMINATRIX: how can a Decepticon simulate human skin? (T3 RIP OFF).

In Beast Wars they showed they are able to simulate organic matter. So its not a T3 only feature.

The new transformers have introduced new level of tech. that the old one don't. Nano Tech. Based on what they are able to do with it, it is conceivable they are able to simulate organic matters as well. Just need a bot that fits a human size, to avoid having a King Kong on the lose. :D

;)

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OPTIMUS: He is a "PRIME". Megatron is his brother. Why isn't Megatron a "PRIME" too?

Maybe he is, maybe not.
Depends on Optimus's definition of a brother, could be talking in a species sense rather than common ancestor.

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Report this Jul. 14 2009, 9:53 pm

As a die hard fan of the original Transformers cartoon. Generation 1. I liked the first one, for the most part. The second I can't even drag myself to see. For one I do not like Shia Lebouf or however you spell it and I don't like how the movies are making new "fans" that know nothing of the original series and then insist on trying to argue with me about it. That is my reply.

Camorite

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Report this Jul. 15 2009, 2:29 pm

Quote (Jenzorz @ July 14 2009, 9:53 pm)
As a die hard fan of the original Transformers cartoon. Generation 1. I liked the first one, for the most part. The second I can't even drag myself to see. For one I do not like Shia Lebouf or however you spell it and I don't like how the movies are making new "fans" that know nothing of the original series and then insist on trying to argue with me about it. That is my reply.

that is why it is more important then ever for those of us that grew up watching G1 to make sure that newer fans learn about the series that started it all.


ALso, to Vold on your stuff about Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal comeing back to life. Both Prime and Primal were brought back from the dead twice, Pirme in "Dark Awakening" and in "The Return", and Primal in was brought back once in Beast Wars and then agian in Beast Machines, both times it was at the begining of the second season of both series.

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Report this Aug. 08 2009, 12:48 pm

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Move to Ten Forward!

SOULESS MINION OF ORTHODOXY!

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Report this Aug. 08 2009, 1:48 pm

I love the first one.

The second one was, to quote Richard E. Grant's charcter of Withnail from "Withnail and I" was, and I quote "BALLS!"

I love Megan Fox, but not even getting to look at her for over 2 and a half hours could save that turkey.

Hopefully Orci and Kurtzman's next attempt at a sequel will be better. ;)

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