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Why was there only one Q episode?

Vortaborg

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Report this Jun. 27 2009, 10:49 pm

Yes, I've heard (at least the rumor of) that both the Borg and Q were "reserved" (I assume this means the writers agreed that they would only be used on) for Voyager, but they had two whole calendar years, 2 seasons, to have another episode.

Plus, Q liked the fact that Sisko was easy to provoke.

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 2:20 am

Quote (Vortaborg @ June 28 2009, 1:49 am)
Yes, I've heard (at least the rumor of) that both the Borg and Q were "reserved" (I assume this means the writers agreed that they would only be used on) for Voyager, but they had two whole calendar years, 2 seasons, to have another episode.

Plus, Q liked the fact that Sisko was easy to provoke.

Either you're somewhat new to DS9. Or you're a lone voice in the wilderness. Ha.

I believe I speak for most of us here when I say I'm extremely glad we didn't get any Q episodes after the first season.

And the Borg? Why? They were completely unnecessary, and the Dominion was SO much more interesting.

Also, I've never heard rumor that Q and the Borg were "reserved" for VOY. But thank God the DS9 producers and writers went their own way after Season 1 (which utilized some familiar TNG concepts/characters only to try to win over those fans). It only made the show that much stronger.

Commander_Zelkar

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 6:58 am

Q was busy bothering Voyager and Picard.

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 9:03 am

Because the creators of DS9 wanted to go their own way. Besides Sisko already had some "god" like creatures to bother him: the worm hole aliens.

I must say though I always would have liked to hear Q comment about the worm hole aliens. Could have been funny...

WorfsGonads

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 9:51 am

I was a bit over Q by then.  The show didn't need him.

Vortaborg

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 11:37 am

No, actually, there is another thread like this on alt.startrek.ds9 I think that's the correct newsgroup name.

TheFounder

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 4:23 pm

No real reason to bring Q back. His show wasn't that successful and becoming TNG: 2.0 was Voyager's job, not DS9's.

1RomulanStarEmpire

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 4:50 pm

DS9 didn't need Q or the borg. They had their own enemies like the Dominion, Cardassians even the Klingons.

alexmcpherson

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 6:00 pm

What I would have liked with the latter (borg) was mention about the events of First Contact... Or should I say after realising the below, mention in the correct place.

According to Memory Alpha, The Battle of Sol took place on Stardate 50893.5

The episode AFTER "In Purgatory's Shadow", "By Inferno's Light" took place on Stardate 50564.2

And yet, IPS made mention of 'The Recent Borg Conflict'.

Quote from the 'Continuity' section of the episode's page on Memory Alpha:

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This episode mentions the Borg attack seen in Star Trek: First Contact. This is in contradiction to the stardate given (50564.2) in the next episode, "By Inferno's Light", in comparison to the stardate given in Star Trek: First Contact (50893.5)


5x22 Children of Time 50814.2
5x23 Blaze of Glory Unknown
5x24 Empok Nor 50901.7

Mention of the situation back in Sol could have been made in Blaze of glory (Whether to mention that the Defiant was leaving for Sol as part of the anti-borg taskforce) or Empok Nor (Repairs to the Defiant are almost complete...)

SheherazadeQ

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 7:13 pm

Quote (TheDriver @ June 28 2009, 2:20 am)
I believe I speak for most of us here when I say I'm extremely glad we didn't get any Q episodes after the first season.

Maybe most, but not all. I really wished there were more episodes with Q. He added such spice whenever he showed up.

alexmcpherson

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 8:44 pm

John Delancie was a brilliant actor. But I agree with the others - Q Episodes in DS9, kept to a minimum? great.

I wouldn't have objected to a second story, maybe in season 6/7 with Q offering to end the Dominion threat on one condition (an outrageous one)
but that could be the plot to a Book mebe (if not already used).

Vortaborg

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Report this Jun. 29 2009, 2:11 pm

Quote (alexmcpherson @ June 28 2009, 8:44 pm)
John Delancie was a brilliant actor. But I agree with the others - Q Episodes in DS9, kept to a minimum? great.

I wouldn't have objected to a second story, maybe in season 6/7 with Q offering to end the Dominion threat on one condition (an outrageous one)
but that could be the plot to a Book mebe (if not already used).

Do the founders know about Q? I wonder what they think about beings who aren't solids or changelings (like the calamarain, Q, Dowd, Kes) or other shapeshifting species like the Allasamorph.

If they assume all solids are dangerous because some have harmed them, why not other types of beings too? (if they have harmed them)

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Report this Jun. 29 2009, 10:07 pm

Q was a great character who worked extremely well on Next Generation. However, he did not really "fit" on DS9. Whether this awkwardness had more to do with Q as a character or whether it was specific to the episode Q-Less, I couldn't possibly say for sure. But he did seem rather out of place where some of the other characters from TOS and TNG who came back to DS9 for more than one episode seemed to fit in much better with the overall fabric of DS9.

Q was just out of place - which is probably one reason why his interactions with the main characters on DS9 seemed as awkward as they did. It was kind of cool to see some followup on what happened with him and Vash after the whole robin hood thing but really it wasn't really necessary.

And with the direction in which DS9 was eventually headed, my guess would be that Q would have wound up being more out of place not less.

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 8:52 pm

Q on DS9 was like lettuce and vanilla ice cream. Didn't really blend well together. There was a lack of chemistry between the actors and Q annoying Sisko didn't go as well as when he annoyed Picard and Janeway.

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 10:56 pm

The reason there was only one Q episode is that Sisko punched Q and he didn't like that so he left! :laugh:

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