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Assume homosexuality is a choice

JoeMoncoBlondie

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 6:37 pm

ive typed out several different responses to your question, but im afraid any reply i make will get me banned.

QdonQ

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 6:40 pm

No...


We all are born on a scale ... some super masculine impulses... some super feminine... most of us are some where in-between... some very attracted to women some to men...

Obvious sexuality is fluid... any person can see that with the number of lesbian encounters in todays day and age...  And men can have sex with anyone (and anything)...  just look at our prisons...

QdonQ

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 6:40 pm

Quote (JoeMoncoBlondie @ June 21 2009, 6:37 pm)
ive typed out several different responses to your question, but im afraid any reply i make will get me banned.

very funny

JoeMoncoBlondie

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 6:45 pm

Quote (QdonQ @ June 21 2009, 6:40 pm)
No...


We all are born on a scale ... some super masculine impulses... some super feminine... most of us are some where in-between... some very attracted to women some to men...

Obvious sexuality is fluid... any person can see that with the number of lesbian encounters in todays day and age... ?And men can have sex with anyone (and anything)... ?just look at our prisons...

ditto

i remember when i was a teenager if someone asked me if i was gay or not id just say i was "about 60 percent at the moment"... now it would be like 40.. lol..

you know what ive NEVER been able to figure out? why do people care?
i mean.. if im not phisically attracted to someone.. i could care less about their sex life... is it all just subconscious jealousy? not so much jealousy of being "gay" but of being able to be oneself openly... without self-repression... without regard to societies censure

QdonQ

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 6:54 pm

Quote (JoeMoncoBlondie @ June 21 2009, 6:45 pm)
Quote (QdonQ @ June 21 2009, 6:40 pm)
No...


We all are born on a scale ... some super masculine impulses... some super feminine... most of us are some where in-between... some very attracted to women some to men...

Obvious sexuality is fluid... any person can see that with the number of lesbian encounters in todays day and age... ?And men can have sex with anyone (and anything)... ?just look at our prisons...

ditto

i remember when i was a teenager if someone asked me if i was gay or not id just say i was "about 60 percent at the moment"... now it would be like 40.. lol..

you know what ive NEVER been able to figure out? why do people care?
i mean.. if im not phisically attracted to someone.. i could care less about their sex life... is it all just subconscious jealousy? not so much jealousy of being "gay" but of being able to be oneself openly... without self-repression... without regard to societies censure

ditto ditto

HedoIsBarisManco

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 7:03 pm

Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 7:30 pm)
For the sake of argument, let's assume homosexuality is a choice. Let's assume that, while I don't understand how, you can choose to be attracted to your own sex or the opposite sex, or both, or neither.

With that assumption in mind, is being homosexual a bad thing?

I do not know.  A bad thing is very objective, and almost in every case Bad, breaks down to, does it hurt anyone and a persons own moral set of values, however a persons own moral set of values can conflict with "Does it hurt anyone" since they have developed it overtime thru interactions in the real world and some have come from a book.

So if you look at it from both views it is not bad because it does not hurt anyone.  And for a percentage of the population it is bad because it conflicts with their moral values.

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 7:05 pm

Quote (HedoIsBarisManco @ June 21 2009, 7:03 pm)
Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 7:30 pm)
For the sake of argument, let's assume homosexuality is a choice. Let's assume that, while I don't understand how, you can choose to be attracted to your own sex or the opposite sex, or both, or neither.

With that assumption in mind, is being homosexual a bad thing?

I do not know. ¿A bad thing is very objective, and almost in every case Bad, breaks down to, does it hurt anyone and a persons own moral set of values, however a persons own moral set of values can conflict with "Does it hurt anyone" since they have developed it overtime thru interactions in the real world and some have come from a book.

So if you look at it from both views it is not bad because it does not hurt anyone. ¿And for a percentage of the population it is bad because it conflicts with their moral values.

I thought you were boycotting this place?

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 7:06 pm

Quote (nhranger @ June 20 2009, 8:05 pm)
Quote (HedoIsBarisManco @ June 21 2009, 7:03 pm)
Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 7:30 pm)
For the sake of argument, let's assume homosexuality is a choice. Let's assume that, while I don't understand how, you can choose to be attracted to your own sex or the opposite sex, or both, or neither.

With that assumption in mind, is being homosexual a bad thing?

I do not know. ?A bad thing is very objective, and almost in every case Bad, breaks down to, does it hurt anyone and a persons own moral set of values, however a persons own moral set of values can conflict with "Does it hurt anyone" since they have developed it overtime thru interactions in the real world and some have come from a book.

So if you look at it from both views it is not bad because it does not hurt anyone. ?And for a percentage of the population it is bad because it conflicts with their moral values.

I thought you were boycotting this place?

I was, but then Toadman returned

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 7:08 pm

Quote (HedoIsBarisManco @ June 21 2009, 7:03 pm)
Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 7:30 pm)
For the sake of argument, let's assume homosexuality is a choice. Let's assume that, while I don't understand how, you can choose to be attracted to your own sex or the opposite sex, or both, or neither.

With that assumption in mind, is being homosexual a bad thing?

I do not know. ¿A bad thing is very objective, and almost in every case Bad, breaks down to, does it hurt anyone and a persons own moral set of values, however a persons own moral set of values can conflict with "Does it hurt anyone" since they have developed it overtime thru interactions in the real world and some have come from a book.

So if you look at it from both views it is not bad because it does not hurt anyone. ¿And for a percentage of the population it is bad because it conflicts with their moral values.

The people who think it is bad can choose not to be gay, so then we've concluded that homosexuality is not bad at all, if it's a choice?

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 7:11 pm

Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 8:08 pm)
Quote (HedoIsBarisManco @ June 21 2009, 7:03 pm)
Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 7:30 pm)
For the sake of argument, let's assume homosexuality is a choice. Let's assume that, while I don't understand how, you can choose to be attracted to your own sex or the opposite sex, or both, or neither.

With that assumption in mind, is being homosexual a bad thing?

I do not know. ?A bad thing is very objective, and almost in every case Bad, breaks down to, does it hurt anyone and a persons own moral set of values, however a persons own moral set of values can conflict with "Does it hurt anyone" since they have developed it overtime thru interactions in the real world and some have come from a book.

So if you look at it from both views it is not bad because it does not hurt anyone. ?And for a percentage of the population it is bad because it conflicts with their moral values.

The people who think it is bad can choose not to be gay, so then we've concluded that homosexuality is not bad at all, if it's a choice?

For some it is not enough to believe, they are not content until they force that belief onto others and until they accept their views, they would be still labeled bad, especially if they think that their bad actions can harm others, aka being gay is contagious

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 7:18 pm

Quote (HedoIsBarisManco @ June 21 2009, 7:11 pm)
Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 8:08 pm)
Quote (HedoIsBarisManco @ June 21 2009, 7:03 pm)
Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 7:30 pm)
For the sake of argument, let's assume homosexuality is a choice. Let's assume that, while I don't understand how, you can choose to be attracted to your own sex or the opposite sex, or both, or neither.

With that assumption in mind, is being homosexual a bad thing?

I do not know. ?A bad thing is very objective, and almost in every case Bad, breaks down to, does it hurt anyone and a persons own moral set of values, however a persons own moral set of values can conflict with "Does it hurt anyone" since they have developed it overtime thru interactions in the real world and some have come from a book.

So if you look at it from both views it is not bad because it does not hurt anyone. ?And for a percentage of the population it is bad because it conflicts with their moral values.

The people who think it is bad can choose not to be gay, so then we've concluded that homosexuality is not bad at all, if it's a choice?

For some it is not enough to believe, they are not content until they force that belief onto others and until they accept their views, they would be still labeled bad, especially if they think that their bad actions can harm others, aka being gay is contagious

But we're operating under the assumption that homosexuality is a choice. That means that everybody who's homosexual chose to be. Just because certain people seem to think it's bad, and want to impress onto others that their idea is true, it doesn't make homosexuality actually bad. That is, the people who think homosexuality is bad can simply choose not to be, and people who do not think so can choose to be. That means that nobody is forced into any life they don't want, ie; everybody has consented to their sexuality.

If the only thing that makes homosexuality bad is that some people think it's bad, then it's subjectively bad, and those subjects can simply choose to avoid it.

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 7:20 pm

Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 8:18 pm)
Quote (HedoIsBarisManco @ June 21 2009, 7:11 pm)
Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 8:08 pm)
Quote (HedoIsBarisManco @ June 21 2009, 7:03 pm)
Quote (SpaceYeti @ June 20 2009, 7:30 pm)
For the sake of argument, let's assume homosexuality is a choice. Let's assume that, while I don't understand how, you can choose to be attracted to your own sex or the opposite sex, or both, or neither.

With that assumption in mind, is being homosexual a bad thing?

I do not know. ?A bad thing is very objective, and almost in every case Bad, breaks down to, does it hurt anyone and a persons own moral set of values, however a persons own moral set of values can conflict with "Does it hurt anyone" since they have developed it overtime thru interactions in the real world and some have come from a book.

So if you look at it from both views it is not bad because it does not hurt anyone. ?And for a percentage of the population it is bad because it conflicts with their moral values.

The people who think it is bad can choose not to be gay, so then we've concluded that homosexuality is not bad at all, if it's a choice?

For some it is not enough to believe, they are not content until they force that belief onto others and until they accept their views, they would be still labeled bad, especially if they think that their bad actions can harm others, aka being gay is contagious

But we're operating under the assumption that homosexuality is a choice. That means that everybody who's homosexual chose to be. Just because certain people seem to think it's bad, and want to impress onto others that their idea is true, it doesn't make homosexuality actually bad. That is, the people who think homosexuality is bad can simply choose not to be, and people who do not think so can choose to be. That means that nobody is forced into any life they don't want, ie; everybody has consented to their sexuality.

If the only thing that makes homosexuality bad is that some people think it's bad, then it's subjectively bad, and those subjects can simply choose to avoid it.

That is true

JoeMoncoBlondie

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 8:12 pm

i brought my best(straight)friend home for thanksgiving once.. just cuz his parents are divorced and he was pretending he didnt care about thanksgiving even though i knew he did(he loves eating)....

im pretty sure my parents thought he was my secret boyfriend or something... its not my fault a dentist ####ed up his mouth and made half of it lose feeling resulting in his lisp.. LOL..

ah fun.

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 8:16 pm

wow, another controvercial topic from space yeti

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Report this Jun. 21 2009, 8:43 pm

Quote (chickadee @ June 21 2009, 8:16 pm)
wow, another controvercial topic from space yeti

So should controversial subjects be ignored?

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