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Is it worth it to try and save religious people?

WilburWood

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 5:07 pm

Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 11 2009, 4:38 am)
I have seen the mapped out center of all creation. ¿The energy that creates matter that creates life ¿(a soul).

Well, THIS certainly explains a LOT!!! :laugh:

loveroftrekmen

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 5:48 pm

I am just asking because the subatmoci particles that formed to create energy also created life as we know over a series of processes.  In a sense we have seen that energy being produced at the subatomic level now.  Thus, we have seen the essence of a soul.  :)  

The photo of the atom is proof of that energy being created into mass and thus that photo is also proof of a soul.

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 6:04 pm

Mass is a measure of matter. Energy does not create matter. It's a component of matter but not matter. Energy is derived, often from matter, but it then is lost to entropy, eventually. There is not reconstituting energy to create matter.

Look up "M" theory for your sub atomic particles.

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Report this Jul. 11 2009, 11:20 pm

I thought that all matter had energy or (a soul). ¿All matter was formed from subatomic particles colliding to form balls of energy which formed into masses of matter.

However, I admit I am merely a linguist and not a particle physicist

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 12:08 pm

Quote (loveroftrekmen @ July 11 2009, 11:20 pm)
I thought that all matter had energy or (a soul). ?All matter was formed from subatomic particles colliding to form balls of energy which formed into masses of matter.

However, I admit I am merely a linguist and not a particle physicist

... *facepalm*

Matter is energy. E=mc^2, and all that. Imagine your computer is matter. I mean, it is, but this is a metaphor, so it's merely a representation of the smallest pieces of matter in general. All of it's components are energy. Matter doesn't have energy, it is energy, just in a different form.

Oh! A better analogy would be ice and water. Matter is to ice as energy is to water.

Same thing, different form.

Alisium

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 1:54 pm

Okay, thanks for correcting me there. It's been some time since I've actually really looked at that.

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Report this Jul. 12 2009, 2:30 pm

I actually didn't intend to correct you, but now that I'm paying attention to what you said, I will: Energy is never lost to entropy, in the strictest sense of losing. Matter/energy cannot be either created or destroyed. Entropy is the measure of energy that's unusable by it's system. Also, entropy only exists in closed systems, which don't happen in nature so far as I'm aware.

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Report this Jul. 16 2009, 4:16 am

Quote (loveroftrekmen @ June 21 2009, 2:00 am)
Is it worth it to try and save religious people from organized blasphemy and try to help them find a good relationship with God. A relationship build on love and faith instead of the bible and myth. ¿

What would it take for you to leave your organized religion in order to build a true and positive relationship with God?

What do you mean by "find God." I am not quite sure if I understand what you are asking.

I am a born-again Christian who follows what might be called an organized religion. However, our beliefs are based on faith in Jesus (God) and His love for us. I wouldn't leave it for anything because even if I were to find out that God or heaven or hell doesn't exist I wouldn't have lost anything.  I have everything to gain by following Jesus.

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Report this Jul. 16 2009, 4:23 am

Quote (spockrocks42 @ July 16 2009, 4:16 am)
Quote (loveroftrekmen @ June 21 2009, 2:00 am)
Is it worth it to try and save religious people from organized blasphemy and try to help them find a good relationship with God. A relationship build on love and faith instead of the bible and myth. ?

What would it take for you to leave your organized religion in order to build a true and positive relationship with God?

What do you mean by "find God." I am not quite sure if I understand what you are asking.

I am a born-again Christian who follows what might be called an organized religion. However, our beliefs are based on faith in Jesus (God) and His love for us. I wouldn't leave it for anything because even if I were to find out that God or heaven or hell doesn't exist I wouldn't have lost anything. ¿I have everything to gain by following Jesus.

... So if you discovered you're wrong, you'd keep your religion anyhow?

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