WHy Mars lost it's water

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Report this Jun. 16 2009, 5:39 pm

For I have walked with giant and found ants.

I was thinking about this earlier today and have come up with a valid reason to why Mars lost all of it's water and life. First I will being using the Earth as the example. We know that Earth has life and has water. We also know that the Moon orbits the Earth and provide pulls on the Earth's water sources all around the world. We also know that as the Moon orbits the Earth it pulls the water that is in it's gravitational field with it thus causing the water to be aerated. The three definitions provided below are the functions as it relates to gravity being a force of influence upon another state of matter, the state of matter being H2O in it's liquid state.

1. To supply with air or expose to the circulation of water:
¿ ¿aerate water.
2. To expose to oxygen, as in the oxygenation of the ocean by
¿ ¿aeration.
3. To supply or charge (liquid) with a gas, especially to charge
¿ ¿with carbon dioxide

1. As the gravity moves around the Earth, it causes the Hydrogen and Oxygen to remain in a random motion that does not allow for the atoms to settle. A body at rest tends to stay at rest, a body in motion tends to remain in motion. We know that in order for a water source to provide life for the creatures to survive within the water source, a pond,lake or ocean, these water sources must be continually aerated. This aeration comes in three forms, gravity pulling on the H2O as the Moon orbits the Earth fresh water sources running into another water source that stirs the water up and the core of the Earth that produces a strong enough EM force that helps aid the aeriation of Earths water sources. This agitation of the water creates new H2O for the creatures of the water source to use as well as carrying the H2O to soil where the Oxygen rich H2O is then used by plants and animals to replenish their systems.

We can see the effect that the moons gravity has on the Earth everyday. This can be proven by looking at a lake and watching the small waves as they race across the surface of the pond, lake or ocean. These waves are created by the above two mentioned sources of aeration, the Moon's gravity and the core of the Earth's magnetic field. These two effects placed upon the H2O of Earth create a continual agitation on all of the water sources across the entire planet.

We also know that if a water source does not receive a fresh supply of running water it will eventually dry up regardless of how much gravity is forcing it's influence against the H2O atoms of the water source. When a body of water becomes stagnant like this, the result is that the life living in the body of water is no longer receiving a fresh supply of oxygen. This has the result of the larger creatures that require the most oxygen dieing off first until all of the creatures that consume the most oxygen have died leaving behind those creatures that only need a minute of H2O to survive. The death chart for this would go like this, with the first creature listed dieing first due to the lack of oxygen down to the smallest creature that can survive on the smallest amount of oxygen. Humpback Whale ----> Great White Shark -------> Dolphin -------> Salmon ------> Large Mouth Bass ---->Perch ------> Minnow -------> Sea Snail ------> Sea Microbial Life. Once the stagnation has occurred the cycle of life has been interrupted thus causing a ecological breakdown for the entire body of water. The Moon's gravity is an important role in the aeration of the Earths bodies of water as well as keeping the oxygen and other gases in the atmosphere circulating. If the moon was not present these gases would cease to circulate and would cause the same ecological breakdown as was described above. This would be the part ....a body in motion tends to stay in motion, in this case gravity creating an aerated force of influence on a body of water necessary for the existence and continued survivability of life on a planet.

Now onto Mars. What does Mars not have that Earth does? A Moon. Perhaps at one time there was life on Mars maybe just as abundant as life is here on Earth but because of the fact that there is no moon present to create of gravitational force of influence, then the gases in the atmosphere would not have been violent enough to cause erosion's of the Martian surface to allow the Martian bodies of water to run new courses where they would empty into other bodies of water creating agitated aeration that would have created a continuous source of new oxygen for the creatures to survive. The lack of aeration would have also have found it's way to the floral and fauna that the land creatures would have fed off of with the omnivores feeding off of both of these sources of food. The missing moon would also have continuously aerated the Martian bodies of water in the same way that our Moon tug and pulls on Earth's bodies of water. The lack of the gravity generated by the moon not being present would also have had the effect of shaping and molding the sub-surface geography under the oceans and other Martian bodies of water. When the gravity creates a wave and the wave moves the sand pebbles on the bottom or near the shore line. This erosion then causes a portion of the shoreline or even portions of the bed of the body of water to collapse creating a new force of influence that the gases under the force of gravitational influence from the moon as well encounter and further add to the erosion. When the smallest amount of matter slides into the body of water it agitates the water causing new oxygen to be made. On Earth this process is occurring at ever half Planck second of the day. But on Mars, where there is no moon to provide this gravitational force of influence the bodies of water would have become stagnant. The water would have just layed there in it's lakes and oceans. The life contained within these bodies of water would have not gotten any bigger then maybe a Large Mouth Bass or Tuna. These creatures would have aerated the bodies of water for maybe a few millions of years, but without a constant supply of fresh water agitating their bodies of water, they would have slowly died out. This is because they would taken the most oxygen out of the water. This coupled with the larger creatures feeding on the smaller creatures that survive on even smaller forms of life brought about by a continuous supply of fresh oxygenated water would have killed off the Martian life at double the rate. With this little bit of aeration gone, any plant life would have consumed the remaining oxygen in the water. The Sun would have also been a major killer of Mars as well. As the stagnant bodies of water became void of life, the sun would have slowly evaporated the water into the Martian atmosphere. Without the moon present the water vapors would have continued out into space. This is because the gravitational force of the moon orbiting Mars would have also forced the evaporating water to blend with the other gases of Mars that would create a cloud layer and wind patterns that would keep the gases moving at faster then light speed velocity. This force would then have created water that would then have rained back down on Mars thus replenishing the water source and keeping Mars fresh with new oxygen created by the aerated agitation of the force of gravitational influence of a moon being present. This would be the part ....a body rest tends to stay at rest, in this case gravity is not creating an aerated force of influence on a body of water necessary for the existence and continued survivability of life on a planet.

So why did Mars lose all of its water and possibility to support life like Earth does? Because Mars does not have a moon to create an opposing force of gravitation force of influence that aids in the aeration of the gases necessary to sustain life.

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Report this Jun. 17 2009, 8:09 pm

A little nit-picking:

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This is because the gravitational force of the moon orbiting Mars would have also forced the evaporating water to blend with the other gases of Mars that would create a cloud layer and wind patterns that would keep the gases moving at faster then light speed velocity.


Faster "than light speed velocity"? Did you just put that in there to see if we were awake?

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Report this Jun. 17 2009, 11:37 pm

I thought Mars lost its water because it didn't have a magnetosphere. The solar wind and weak gravity combined caused the atmosphere to slowly get thinner. Once the atmosphereic pressure go low enough, water would boil away at lower temps and escape.
But I do agree that if Mars had a large moon, it might have kept the water and atmosphere. The gravitational stirring of the Mars interior might have gotten the Martain core spinning and it too would have had a magnetosphere.

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Report this Jun. 18 2009, 4:13 pm

Quote (dryson @ June 15 2009, 6:39 pm)
For I have walked with giant and found ants.

I was thinking about this earlier today and have come up with a valid reason to why Mars lost all of it's water and life. First I will being using the Earth as the example. We know that Earth has life and has water. We also know that the Moon orbits the Earth and provide pulls on the Earth's water sources all around the world. We also know that as the Moon orbits the Earth it pulls the water that is in it's gravitational field with it thus causing the water to be aerated. The three definitions provided below are the functions as it relates to gravity being a force of influence upon another state of matter, the state of matter being H2O in it's liquid state.

1. To supply with air or expose to the circulation of water:
? ?aerate water.
2. To expose to oxygen, as in the oxygenation of the ocean by
? ?aeration.
3. To supply or charge (liquid) with a gas, especially to charge
? ?with carbon dioxide

1. As the gravity moves around the Earth, it causes the Hydrogen and Oxygen to remain in a random motion that does not allow for the atoms to settle. A body at rest tends to stay at rest, a body in motion tends to remain in motion. We know that in order for a water source to provide life for the creatures to survive within the water source, a pond,lake or ocean, these water sources must be continually aerated. This aeration comes in three forms, gravity pulling on the H2O as the Moon orbits the Earth fresh water sources running into another water source that stirs the water up and the core of the Earth that produces a strong enough EM force that helps aid the aeriation of Earths water sources. This agitation of the water creates new H2O for the creatures of the water source to use as well as carrying the H2O to soil where the Oxygen rich H2O is then used by plants and animals to replenish their systems.

We can see the effect that the moons gravity has on the Earth everyday. This can be proven by looking at a lake and watching the small waves as they race across the surface of the pond, lake or ocean. These waves are created by the above two mentioned sources of aeration, the Moon's gravity and the core of the Earth's magnetic field. These two effects placed upon the H2O of Earth create a continual agitation on all of the water sources across the entire planet.

We also know that if a water source does not receive a fresh supply of running water it will eventually dry up regardless of how much gravity is forcing it's influence against the H2O atoms of the water source. When a body of water becomes stagnant like this, the result is that the life living in the body of water is no longer receiving a fresh supply of oxygen. This has the result of the larger creatures that require the most oxygen dieing off first until all of the creatures that consume the most oxygen have died leaving behind those creatures that only need a minute of H2O to survive. The death chart for this would go like this, with the first creature listed dieing first due to the lack of oxygen down to the smallest creature that can survive on the smallest amount of oxygen. Humpback Whale ----> Great White Shark -------> Dolphin -------> Salmon ------> Large Mouth Bass ---->Perch ------> Minnow -------> Sea Snail ------> Sea Microbial Life. Once the stagnation has occurred the cycle of life has been interrupted thus causing a ecological breakdown for the entire body of water. The Moon's gravity is an important role in the aeration of the Earths bodies of water as well as keeping the oxygen and other gases in the atmosphere circulating. If the moon was not present these gases would cease to circulate and would cause the same ecological breakdown as was described above. This would be the part ....a body in motion tends to stay in motion, in this case gravity creating an aerated force of influence on a body of water necessary for the existence and continued survivability of life on a planet.

Now onto Mars. What does Mars not have that Earth does? A Moon. Perhaps at one time there was life on Mars maybe just as abundant as life is here on Earth but because of the fact that there is no moon present to create of gravitational force of influence, then the gases in the atmosphere would not have been violent enough to cause erosion's of the Martian surface to allow the Martian bodies of water to run new courses where they would empty into other bodies of water creating agitated aeration that would have created a continuous source of new oxygen for the creatures to survive. The lack of aeration would have also have found it's way to the floral and fauna that the land creatures would have fed off of with the omnivores feeding off of both of these sources of food. The missing moon would also have continuously aerated the Martian bodies of water in the same way that our Moon tug and pulls on Earth's bodies of water. The lack of the gravity generated by the moon not being present would also have had the effect of shaping and molding the sub-surface geography under the oceans and other Martian bodies of water. When the gravity creates a wave and the wave moves the sand pebbles on the bottom or near the shore line. This erosion then causes a portion of the shoreline or even portions of the bed of the body of water to collapse creating a new force of influence that the gases under the force of gravitational influence from the moon as well encounter and further add to the erosion. When the smallest amount of matter slides into the body of water it agitates the water causing new oxygen to be made. On Earth this process is occurring at ever half Planck second of the day. But on Mars, where there is no moon to provide this gravitational force of influence the bodies of water would have become stagnant. The water would have just layed there in it's lakes and oceans. The life contained within these bodies of water would have not gotten any bigger then maybe a Large Mouth Bass or Tuna. These creatures would have aerated the bodies of water for maybe a few millions of years, but without a constant supply of fresh water agitating their bodies of water, they would have slowly died out. This is because they would taken the most oxygen out of the water. This coupled with the larger creatures feeding on the smaller creatures that survive on even smaller forms of life brought about by a continuous supply of fresh oxygenated water would have killed off the Martian life at double the rate. With this little bit of aeration gone, any plant life would have consumed the remaining oxygen in the water. The Sun would have also been a major killer of Mars as well. As the stagnant bodies of water became void of life, the sun would have slowly evaporated the water into the Martian atmosphere. Without the moon present the water vapors would have continued out into space. This is because the gravitational force of the moon orbiting Mars would have also forced the evaporating water to blend with the other gases of Mars that would create a cloud layer and wind patterns that would keep the gases moving at faster then light speed velocity. This force would then have created water that would then have rained back down on Mars thus replenishing the water source and keeping Mars fresh with new oxygen created by the aerated agitation of the force of gravitational influence of a moon being present. This would be the part ....a body rest tends to stay at rest, in this case gravity is not creating an aerated force of influence on a body of water necessary for the existence and continued survivability of life on a planet.

So why did Mars lose all of its water and possibility to support life like Earth does? Because Mars does not have a moon to create an opposing force of gravitation force of influence that aids in the aeration of the gases necessary to sustain life.

for you the quote should be I AM AN ANT.. ;)

Mar lost it water due to the fact that the solar winds stripped Mar's atomsphere. What remains is at a very low atomspheric pressure.

Low Atomspheric pressure means that water boil rapidly and exposure to solar radiation broke the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen molecules who velocities allow them to escaped the planet gravitation field into space.

If mars was a bit larger and had a magnetic field this would not have happen.

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Report this Jun. 18 2009, 4:39 pm

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Mar lost it water due to the fact that the solar winds stripped Mar's atomsphere. What remains is at a very low atomspheric pressure.

Low Atomspheric pressure means that water boil rapidly and exposure to solar radiation broke the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen molecules who velocities allow them to escaped the planet gravitation field into space.

If mars was a bit larger and had a magnetic field this would not have happen.


This is true as well. But without the gravity of the Earth sized moon to orbit Mars and circulate the oxygen and other gases the moisture needed to keep the soil from blowing away would not be present thus causing the soil to dry out. When the soil dries out the gravity driven wind can easily pick the granules up and redistribute them. This causes even a faster rate of erosion then would normally occur.

It wouldn't matter if Mars was the size of the Earth or even slightly bigger like you suggest, it would still require a moon the size of the Moon to aid in the circulation of the atoms of the planet.

Lets take our moon away for a moment, what do we have? The Earths gravity holding the planet together from within the planet. The gravity generated by the planets core would only be able to exert a force of influence up to a certain level. This is because of the kilometers soil,metal,crystalline structures that the gravity must travel through. We know that everything is effected by EM wavelengths. Even though the gravity generated by the Earth is immense it must still travel through obstacles as well as overcoming distance. We also know that all energy, even gravity, is it's strongest at it's core and get weaker as you move away from that core. Now the gravity from the Moon that has already escaped from the core and affects Earth does not have to worry about being affected by any obstacles. It only takes a single wavelength of gravity 1.2822204 seconds to reach earth at the speed of light. This is pretty fast, but it can be safe to say that gravity travels ten times this speed or 2,997,920 k/s. At this rate of velocity the gravity from the Moon is striking the Earth every .1282222 seconds. At this rate of velocity the ecological system of the Earth is kept in a continuous circulation at all times.

If we didn't have the Moon, then the circulation of the ecological system of the Earth would slowly deteriorate into a barren planet like Mars, taking maybe 5 to ten years to accomplish.

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I thought Mars lost its water because it didn't have a magnetosphere. The solar wind and weak gravity combined caused the atmosphere to slowly get thinner. Once the atmosphereic pressure go low enough, water would boil away at lower temps and escape.
But I do agree that if Mars had a large moon, it might have kept the water and atmosphere. The gravitational stirring of the Mars interior might have gotten the Martain core spinning and it too would have had a magnetosphere.

This is because of the lack of a moon to help provide a gravity pressure against the atoms being forced around by the influence of gravity.

This is easily proven by taking a ball of clay and balling it up into a ball. Your right hand is the Earth and gravity being generated by the Earth. The clay will be the atmosphere. As you Earth hand from right to left, the atoms of the atomsphere move without a force of influence to keep them from escaping.

Now take your Moon hand or the left hand and bring it towards your Earth hand.  What happens when your Moon hand and your Earth hand lock fingers? The atmosphere has a force of influence placed against it, this is gravity. Mars only has the gravity from it's core pushing the atoms out into space. If there was a moon present then the gravity of the moon would create a force of influence against the atoms and trap them. As the Martian Moon and Mars dance around each other, each ones gravity wavelengths become entangled with one another causing a flow of circulation in the atmosphere to occur. This causes turbulence in the atmosphere of Mars which causes the various atoms to collide with each other and function in various ways that range from rain, thunder and lighting.

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Report this Jun. 19 2009, 8:06 pm

Quote (dryson @ June 18 2009, 4:39 pm)
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Mar lost it water due to the fact that the solar winds stripped Mar's atomsphere. What remains is at a very low atomspheric pressure.

Low Atomspheric pressure means that water boil rapidly and exposure to solar radiation broke the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen molecules who velocities allow them to escaped the planet gravitation field into space.

If mars was a bit larger and had a magnetic field this would not have happen.


This is true as well. But without the gravity of the Earth sized moon to orbit Mars and circulate the oxygen and other gases the moisture needed to keep the soil from blowing away would not be present thus causing the soil to dry out. When the soil dries out the gravity driven wind can easily pick the granules up and redistribute them. This causes even a faster rate of erosion then would normally occur.

It wouldn't matter if Mars was the size of the Earth or even slightly bigger like you suggest, it would still require a moon the size of the Moon to aid in the circulation of the atoms of the planet.

Lets take our moon away for a moment, what do we have? The Earths gravity holding the planet together from within the planet. The gravity generated by the planets core would only be able to exert a force of influence up to a certain level. This is because of the kilometers soil,metal,crystalline structures that the gravity must travel through. We know that everything is effected by EM wavelengths. Even though the gravity generated by the Earth is immense it must still travel through obstacles as well as overcoming distance. We also know that all energy, even gravity, is it's strongest at it's core and get weaker as you move away from that core. Now the gravity from the Moon that has already escaped from the core and affects Earth does not have to worry about being affected by any obstacles. It only takes a single wavelength of gravity 1.2822204 seconds to reach earth at the speed of light. This is pretty fast, but it can be safe to say that gravity travels ten times this speed or 2,997,920 k/s. At this rate of velocity the gravity from the Moon is striking the Earth every .1282222 seconds. At this rate of velocity the ecological system of the Earth is kept in a continuous circulation at all times.

If we didn't have the Moon, then the circulation of the ecological system of the Earth would slowly deteriorate into a barren planet like Mars, taking maybe 5 to ten years to accomplish.

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I thought Mars lost its water because it didn't have a magnetosphere. The solar wind and weak gravity combined caused the atmosphere to slowly get thinner. Once the atmosphereic pressure go low enough, water would boil away at lower temps and escape.
But I do agree that if Mars had a large moon, it might have kept the water and atmosphere. The gravitational stirring of the Mars interior might have gotten the Martain core spinning and it too would have had a magnetosphere.


This is because of the lack of a moon to help provide a gravity pressure against the atoms being forced around by the influence of gravity.

This is easily proven by taking a ball of clay and balling it up into a ball. Your right hand is the Earth and gravity being generated by the Earth. The clay will be the atmosphere. As you Earth hand from right to left, the atoms of the atomsphere move without a force of influence to keep them from escaping.

Now take your Moon hand or the left hand and bring it towards your Earth hand. ¿What happens when your Moon hand and your Earth hand lock fingers? The atmosphere has a force of influence placed against it, this is gravity. Mars only has the gravity from it's core pushing the atoms out into space. If there was a moon present then the gravity of the moon would create a force of influence against the atoms and trap them. As the Martian Moon and Mars dance around each other, each ones gravity wavelengths become entangled with one another causing a flow of circulation in the atmosphere to occur. This causes turbulence in the atmosphere of Mars which causes the various atoms to collide with each other and function in various ways that range from rain, thunder and lighting.
Both Earth's core and Mars' core pull atoms toward them due to gravity. A moon would pull them up.

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Report this Jun. 20 2009, 4:57 pm

Mars didn't lose its water, it all froze up around the poles since, perhaps it used to have a thicker atmosphere, and it decayed because of its distance from the sun. Either that, or it used to be closer to the sun.

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Report this Jun. 27 2009, 1:47 pm

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Both Earth's core and Mars' core pull atoms toward them due to gravity. A moon would pull them up.


A planets core works both ways at once attracting atoms toward the core as well as repelling atoms away from the core.

There has also been evidence discovered by the Phoenix Lander that rivers once existed on Mars and that if the polar caps would have frozen so too would the rivers due to rapid loss of atmosphere and the greater distance that Mars is away from the sun.

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 3:30 pm

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I thought Mars lost its water because it didn't have a magnetosphere. The solar wind and weak gravity combined caused the atmosphere to slowly get thinner. Once the atmosphereic pressure go low enough, water would boil away at lower temps and escape.
But I do agree that if Mars had a large moon, it might have kept the water and atmosphere. The gravitational stirring of the Mars interior might have gotten the Martain core spinning and it too would have had a magnetosphere.

You're correct in your assumption; without a magnetosphere to protect against solar wind, Mars's atmosphere went away, reducing pressure, resulting in water either freezing up or evaporating.

For Earth, it seems that more along the lines that our moon's formation allowed us to avoid such a fate, at least as far as our atmosphere is concerned.
The extra heavy metals from the core of the impactor undoubtly merged with Earth's existing core to produce a metal rich enviroment which helped provide us with our protective magnetosphere.

Had Mars experienced a similar fate, it likely would've kept it's atmosphere at such a level as to allow liquid water.

I should note that even without a moon, Earth would still have water. Tides from a moon are not needed to do the things Dryson lists. That comes from wave action. For Earth, it happened from our initially fast rotation, another fact helped by the big impact that formed our moon.

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Report this Jun. 29 2009, 6:27 pm

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A magnetic field is a vector field which surrounds magnets and electric currents, and is detected by the force it exerts on moving electric charges and on magnetic materials. When placed in a magnetic field, magnetic dipoles tend to align their axes parallel to the magnetic field. Magnetic fields also have their own energy with an energy density proportional to the square of the field intensity. It affects the behavior of charged objects in the vicinity of the field.


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The electromagnetic field is a physical field produced by electrically charged objects. It affects the behavior of charged objects in the vicinity of the field.


I am quite certain that if the Moon was not present then the secondary magnetic field that places a force of resistance against the Earth that is generated by the Moon would allow the atmospheric gases of the Earth to escape faster then they would with a Moon. This would cause a severe environmental change in the Earths Ecosphere to where the change would evetually be like that of Mars.

Maybe a planet the size of Jupiter wouldn't need a moon to maintain its atmosphere but then again I am not concerned with Jupiter as it cannot support life as Mars was able to millions of years ago or as Earth does or so it would seem would to support intelligent life.

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Report this Jun. 29 2009, 9:04 pm

Dryson, I'm using real science, not the science used in Star Trek.
ST was good sci-fi TV, not an educational program.

Wave action is seperate from tidal action.
Wave action is generated by weather.

Earth's magnetosphere does not need the moon to protect it against the solar wind that would otherwise strip away the atmosphere.
The field is a result of a dynamo effect. You should realize that.

A suggestion for you; pose your idea on the BAUT forum. Plenty of people that are knowledgable in space science are there. You can get good answers from them. I know I did.

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Report this Jun. 30 2009, 6:42 pm

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Wave action is seperate from tidal action.
Wave action is generated by weather.


Wave action is not generated by weather, weather does not generate anything on a planet wave action is generated by the core's activity.

The weather of a planet is how the electromagnetic and magnetic forces of the core of the planet affect the lighter elements, this meaning the elements that have not formed into a solid of liquid and are still in particle form. Weather is the collision of these particles based on their atomic configuration and how the electrons, protons and neutrons interact with the force of influence generated by the planets core.

A planets lively hood is dependent upon how active the core is first off.
When the core is active, the core will cause more of force of influence upon the lighter particles. These lighter particles are then moved around the planet and can be felt as wind, when you feel a strong breeze that is the core of the planet forcing the lighter particles around. Since particles have weight the force that you are feeling is the particles being moved around at an extremely high rate of velocity.

Now we know that Mars core is not very active then what causes the powerful wind storms seen on Mars/ Solar storms account for the movement of the lighter particles, but what stirs the atmosphere that Mars does have when the solar storms are not present? This would be do the  activity of the Martian core moving the lighter particles around.

The next reason why Mars did not survive is because of it's lack of a moon like our Moon. Water is a heavy particle that would take alot of force to move around, whereas the lighter particles like oxygen and the other atmospheric particles are affected by the planets core. So in order for tidal wave's to occur there are various forces that are involved. This includes the moving of the tectonic plates that causes a sudden shift in the water. The energy released then travels up through the water and is transformed into waves. Also when the core is really active more lighter particles will be picked up and forcced against the surface of the water thus causing a wave to form. As the wave increases in height the wave form's a force of influence back upon the particles that if the force of influence from the planets core is strong enough the wave will continue to build. Once the wave has reached it's crest and the force of atmospheric influence has reached it's greatest force of influence the wave will crest over causing the top part of the wave to break away from the rest of the wave and become part of the water again.

The moon aids in this wave formation by providing a secondary force of gravitational influence to the front part of the wave in the same manner that the planets gravitational force of influence pushes the wave up from behind by forcing the lighter particles against the the backside of the wave, The Moons gravitational force of influence forces that lighter particles on the front side of the wave to create a force that allows the planets gravitational forces to ride upon.

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Report this Jun. 30 2009, 10:58 pm

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Wave action is not generated by weather, weather does not generate anything on a planet wave action is generated by the core's activity.


Dryson, you have now left the planet.

Let me know when you return to reality, okay?

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Report this Jul. 02 2009, 8:05 pm

Then explain to me what weather is? Is it a supernatural force moved about by spirits? No weather is the direct result of the activity of the Earths core in relation to how the activity of the core effects the movement of particles within the atmosphere as well as other solar events that may include bombardment of the Earth from high amounts of UV rays to large doses of Solar Flares.

Weather does not generate itself nor does it govern itself and is regulated by the core's activity. If the Moon had an active core then it would also have an atmosphere, but since the Moon does not have an active core then there are no forces of magnetic and or electromagnetic influence to keep and atmosphere on the Moon.

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Report this Jul. 02 2009, 8:31 pm

Well Dryson, the problem with working out your theory using Earth as an example is wrong in so many ways. What constants are involved other than water and that both planets are round? there are at least hundreds of variables, never mind the fact that there may never have been life on Mars in the first place.

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