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Jun. 17 2009, 3:39 pm
Exodus can back me up on all of what I've said
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Jun. 17 2009, 3:42 pm
Oh, I don't doubt you, never have, your facts are usually solid. Just didn't know that about Jen, though.
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Jun. 17 2009, 3:43 pm
thank you. Last time I posted that about her I was accused of trying to spread rumors about her
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Jun. 17 2009, 3:47 pm
Some people just like to start arguments, and on these boards that's a daily occurrence !! I know I'm still a newbie of sorts, but I've very quickly learned who to listen to and who to ignore. You, I listen.
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Jun. 17 2009, 3:50 pm
awww shucks  thank you  |
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Jun. 17 2009, 3:52 pm
Most welcome. |
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Jun. 17 2009, 4:05 pm
If Janeway was replaced, the same people would jump on the bandwagon to explain her shortcomings.
It's all (after the fact).
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Jun. 17 2009, 4:06 pm
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Jun. 17 2009, 4:12 pm
Perhaps. In many ways Kate Mulgrew had an even bigger challenge on her hands than Jen. As the captain of the ship, she had to win over the writers, the studio, and more importantly the fans. If Janeway didn't succeed, it would slam the lid on there ever being another female captain to replace her, and return women in Star Trek to the role of T and A and eye candy (I know, Seven). Jennifer Lien had a much easier time of it, and this from one of her fans.
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Jun. 18 2009, 8:13 am
| Quote (spocklet @ June 17 2009, 4:12 pm) | | Perhaps. In many ways Kate Mulgrew had an even bigger challenge on her hands than Jen. As the captain of the ship, she had to win over the writers, the studio, and more importantly the fans. If Janeway didn't succeed, it would slam the lid on there ever being another female captain to replace her, and return women in Star Trek to the role of T and A and eye candy (I know, Seven). Jennifer Lien had a much easier time of it, and this from one of her fans. |
You're right. Kate had to literaly carry the show as it's captain, and as the first female captain to be featured. As the captain she had to answer for all the decisions made, all of the questions fell to her. All Lien had to do was to hand the doctor a few hyposprays |
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Jun. 18 2009, 11:48 am
| Quote (chickadee @ June 18 2009, 8:13 am) | | Quote (spocklet @ June 17 2009, 4:12 pm) | | Perhaps. In many ways Kate Mulgrew had an even bigger challenge on her hands than Jen. As the captain of the ship, she had to win over the writers, the studio, and more importantly the fans. If Janeway didn't succeed, it would slam the lid on there ever being another female captain to replace her, and return women in Star Trek to the role of T and A and eye candy (I know, Seven). Jennifer Lien had a much easier time of it, and this from one of her fans. |
You're right. Kate had to literaly carry the show as it's captain, and as the first female captain to be featured. As the captain she had to answer for all the decisions made, all of the questions fell to her. All Lien had to do was to hand the doctor a few hyposprays |
That's true up to a point, Kes DID have a few eps where she was able to be a bit more than another pair of hands. Not many, I'll agree, but a few !! |
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Jun. 18 2009, 11:57 am
| Quote (spocklet @ June 18 2009, 11:48 am) | | Quote (chickadee @ June 18 2009, 8:13 am) | | Quote (spocklet @ June 17 2009, 4:12 pm) | | Perhaps. In many ways Kate Mulgrew had an even bigger challenge on her hands than Jen. As the captain of the ship, she had to win over the writers, the studio, and more importantly the fans. If Janeway didn't succeed, it would slam the lid on there ever being another female captain to replace her, and return women in Star Trek to the role of T and A and eye candy (I know, Seven). Jennifer Lien had a much easier time of it, and this from one of her fans. |
You're right. Kate had to literaly carry the show as it's captain, and as the first female captain to be featured. As the captain she had to answer for all the decisions made, all of the questions fell to her. All Lien had to do was to hand the doctor a few hyposprays |
That's true up to a point, Kes DID have a few eps where she was able to be a bit more than another pair of hands. Not many, I'll agree, but a few !! |
yes she did. I listed them in another thread. But off the top of my head, the Gift, The Swarm, and Persistance of Vision  |
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Jun. 18 2009, 12:05 pm
I would include Warlord and Fury to that list. Both show Kes in a darker, less compliant mood. |
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Jun. 18 2009, 12:06 pm
Fury definately, but are you sure about Warlord since it wasn't really her
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Jun. 18 2009, 12:34 pm
| Quote (chickadee @ June 18 2009, 12:06 pm) | | Fury definately, but are you sure about Warlord since it wasn't really her |
If you suddenly went berserk at work, would your colleagues think it was you, or someone who's taken over your body ?? |
