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Quote (exodus201 @ June 16 2009, 2:12 am)

Quote (Vortaborg @ June 14 2009, 1:26 pm) Now, that they through Odo have learned to trust solids. Will they disband the dominion and give Jem'Hadar and Vorta free will? Join the Federation perhaps? Also, I wondered why it was only solids they distrusted. Remember in the Dauphin (a TNG episode) there was another race of shapeshifters called the Allasamorph that held (at least Anye (sp?) did) that any race other than their own was dangerous, which would probably include other shapeshifting races. If changelings assumed because some solids were dangerous to them then why didn't changelings also assume if they had an encounter with another race that wasn't a solid, or changeling or that they could also be dangerous? And lastly. I wondered if they didn't trust a solid if they could link with them. Yes, I know solids can't link. But, a changeling transformed solid Odo back into a changeling, so they could transform one into a changeling to link with him/her. Although, wasn't there a mention that Odo may not have been made into an 100% solid by the founders? I don't think they learned to trust solids, I just think they signed a treaty like the Federation did with the Romulans. ¿You don't enter our space and we won't invade yours.

I think you're right exodus

You remember the Dauphin with the shape shifting Allasamorph Species? The Governess Allasmorph had the exact same philosophy toward non-shape shifters that the the founders have.

...Besides much of the idea behind Odo returning to the Gamma Q. was that he could teach the other Founders to trust solids more -- which presumably implies that this is something they have not learnt yet.

It's also worth noting that the major reason the Female Shapeshifter was refusing to surrender was that it would be seen as a sign of weakness which would lead to the Alpha Quadrant powers invading the Gamma Quadrant and destroying the Great Link.

When Odo tried to persuade her verbally that this wouldn't happen, she refused to believe him as she "didn't share his faith in the solids" - however, after linking, she no longer seemed to have this objection, and this can't have been soley due to Odo's agreement to return to the Link as his return would have no bearing on whether or not the Alpha Quadrant would invade and destroy the Founders; it seems that at the very least he did in fact successfully persuade her that the Alpha Quadrant would not invade.

I doubt that Odo would be able to change the Great Link's anti-solid mindset overnight, but from his at least partial success with the Female Changeling, I suspect that he would most probably begin a gradual attitude shift, one that would be spurred on even more as time progresses and the Founders realise that the Alpha Quadrant really hasn't invaded them.

Panic: the Vorta will follow the founders no matter what. But the Jem'Hader they're bred to fight. The logical solution would be to quietly bump off (kill) all the Jem'Hader. But then that could mean a Jem'Hader revolt. As for shapeshifter attitudes to solids would they change? Not that much, I'd say they would be angry at solids, just because the 'solids' in the Alpha Quadrant kept the Dominion at bay.