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Dbear1

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 3:02 pm

Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ June 28 2009, 2:23 pm)
Again with the Kes haters. ¿He remember it isn't a big deal for an actor to leave and try to make movies. ¿It isn't selling out it is called Star Money 3 The Search for More Money. ¿Plane and simple. ¿I think that is the only reason why people hate Kes. ¿But if that is true then why don't people hate Denise Crosby for walking out the door of TNG.

Oh and by the way Alice Krige was much scarey than Susanna Thompson/ ¿I liked them both but Kriges Borg queen voice makes you fear.

If that is directed toward me, I did not hate Kes, I just found her character kind of bland.  I felt she was poorly conceived and did not really add much to the show.  If you liked her character, that is cool, I just did not find her interesting.

I was just trying to say that the way she was displayed in Fury seemed out of character from what we saw of her the first three seasons.  Plus the reason they gave for her changing so radically did not make much sense to me.

As for the actress I have no hostility towards her, no reason I should.

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 5:15 pm

Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ June 28 2009, 2:23 pm)
Again with the Kes haters. ¿He remember it isn't a big deal for an actor to leave and try to make movies. ¿It isn't selling out it is called Star Money 3 The Search for More Money. ¿Plane and simple. ¿I think that is the only reason why people hate Kes. ¿But if that is true then why don't people hate Denise Crosby for walking out the door of TNG.

Oh and by the way Alice Krige was much scarey than Susanna Thompson/ ¿I liked them both but Kriges Borg queen voice makes you fear.

Kes has a very small fan base.  
That doesn't make us haters, it just shows why the character didn't last on the show.

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Report this Jun. 28 2009, 10:16 pm

For me blink of an eye.

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Report this Jun. 29 2009, 2:02 am

Quote (exodus201 @ June 27 2009, 6:15 pm)
Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ June 28 2009, 2:23 pm)
Again with the Kes haters. ?He remember it isn't a big deal for an actor to leave and try to make movies. ?It isn't selling out it is called Star Money 3 The Search for More Money. ?Plane and simple. ?I think that is the only reason why people hate Kes. ?But if that is true then why don't people hate Denise Crosby for walking out the door of TNG.

Oh and by the way Alice Krige was much scarey than Susanna Thompson/ ?I liked them both but Kriges Borg queen voice makes you fear.

Kes has a very small fan base. ¿
That doesn't make us haters, it just shows why the character didn't last on the show.

It's more like everyone in the world likes Kes except for a few naysayers that post here. Thats how I see it, anyway.

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Report this Jun. 30 2009, 11:57 am

'Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy' and 'Haunting Of Deck Twelve'

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Report this Jun. 30 2009, 5:27 pm

Quote (TransphasicTorpedoes @ June 29 2009, 2:02 am)
Quote (exodus201 @ June 27 2009, 6:15 pm)
Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ June 28 2009, 2:23 pm)
Again with the Kes haters. ?He remember it isn't a big deal for an actor to leave and try to make movies. ?It isn't selling out it is called Star Money 3 The Search for More Money. ?Plane and simple. ?I think that is the only reason why people hate Kes. ?But if that is true then why don't people hate Denise Crosby for walking out the door of TNG.

Oh and by the way Alice Krige was much scarey than Susanna Thompson/ ?I liked them both but Kriges Borg queen voice makes you fear.

Kes has a very small fan base. ?
That doesn't make us haters, it just shows why the character didn't last on the show.

It's more like everyone in the world likes Kes except for a few naysayers that post here. Thats how I see it, anyway.

I'm sure if that were true, Kes would be on posters and T-shirts just like the rest of the cast. :)

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Report this Jun. 30 2009, 10:57 pm

one small step.

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Report this Jul. 02 2009, 4:40 pm

Yeah but Kes should not be hated because her character was weak you have to blame that on the producers because they failed to develop her character.  I think it is easy for people to blame the actor for the role they play when it was a producer who wrote the character.  I mean Trek fans really made me scratch my head when they preferred Dr. Crusher over Dr. Pulaski.  I mean you had a case there where a superior actress in every way was booted out, why your guess is as good as mine.

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Report this Jul. 06 2009, 8:40 pm

Quote (chickadee @ June 17 2009, 7:33 am)
I thought Alice was much better

I agree.  Alice Krige is the better Borg Queen.  She had a strange, other-worldly quality to her that Susanna Thompson lacked.  Krige was very well cast in "First Contact" and she helped make that role (which could have easily been a disaster) such a success.

exodus201

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Report this Jul. 06 2009, 8:52 pm

Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ July 02 2009, 4:40 pm)
Yeah but Kes should not be hated because her character was weak you have to blame that on the producers because they failed to develop her character. ?I think it is easy for people to blame the actor for the role they play when it was a producer who wrote the character. ?I mean Trek fans really made me scratch my head when they preferred Dr. Crusher over Dr. Pulaski. ?I mean you had a case there where a superior actress in every way was booted out, why your guess is as good as mine.

Because Pulaski was irritating.
TNG was supposed to show us how evolved we had become in our thinking as humans but Pulaski was kind of prejudice, rude and never knew her place in the chain of command. ¿Starfleet is still a type of military, Pulaski is insubordinate.

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Report this Jul. 06 2009, 10:47 pm

Quote (exodus201 @ June 29 2009, 6:27 pm)
Quote (TransphasicTorpedoes @ June 29 2009, 2:02 am)
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Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ June 28 2009, 2:23 pm)
Again with the Kes haters. ?He remember it isn't a big deal for an actor to leave and try to make movies. ?It isn't selling out it is called Star Money 3 The Search for More Money. ?Plane and simple. ?I think that is the only reason why people hate Kes. ?But if that is true then why don't people hate Denise Crosby for walking out the door of TNG.

Oh and by the way Alice Krige was much scarey than Susanna Thompson/ ?I liked them both but Kriges Borg queen voice makes you fear.

Kes has a very small fan base. ?
That doesn't make us haters, it just shows why the character didn't last on the show.

It's more like everyone in the world likes Kes except for a few naysayers that post here. Thats how I see it, anyway.

I'm sure if that were true, Kes would be on posters and T-shirts just like the rest of the cast. :)

She's on lots of stuff ...I just checked ebay.

Anyway, like I said, there's one or two naysayers. Thats about it.

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Report this Jul. 06 2009, 11:03 pm

Quote (TransphasicTorpedoes @ July 06 2009, 10:47 pm)
Quote (exodus201 @ June 29 2009, 6:27 pm)
Quote (TransphasicTorpedoes @ June 29 2009, 2:02 am)
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Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ June 28 2009, 2:23 pm)
Again with the Kes haters. ?He remember it isn't a big deal for an actor to leave and try to make movies. ?It isn't selling out it is called Star Money 3 The Search for More Money. ?Plane and simple. ?I think that is the only reason why people hate Kes. ?But if that is true then why don't people hate Denise Crosby for walking out the door of TNG.

Oh and by the way Alice Krige was much scarey than Susanna Thompson/ ?I liked them both but Kriges Borg queen voice makes you fear.

Kes has a very small fan base. ?
That doesn't make us haters, it just shows why the character didn't last on the show.

It's more like everyone in the world likes Kes except for a few naysayers that post here. Thats how I see it, anyway.

I'm sure if that were true, Kes would be on posters and T-shirts just like the rest of the cast. :)

She's on lots of stuff ...I just checked ebay.

Anyway, like I said, there's one or two naysayers. Thats about it.

Isn't there a Kes doll?  I want one!   :D

RedShirtGuyNumber1001

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 8:44 am

Quote (exodus201 @ July 06 2009, 8:52 pm)
Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ July 02 2009, 4:40 pm)
Yeah but Kes should not be hated because her character was weak you have to blame that on the producers because they failed to develop her character. ?I think it is easy for people to blame the actor for the role they play when it was a producer who wrote the character. ?I mean Trek fans really made me scratch my head when they preferred Dr. Crusher over Dr. Pulaski. ?I mean you had a case there where a superior actress in every way was booted out, why your guess is as good as mine.

Because Pulaski was irritating.
TNG was supposed to show us how evolved we had become in our thinking as humans but Pulaski was kind of prejudice, rude and never knew her place in the chain of command. ?Starfleet is still a type of military, Pulaski is insubordinate.

Oh blah that was what some critic said many years ago that wasn't true.  She was insubordinate she was just passionate, much like McCoy was.  She gets a bad rap.  I really liked her when she was on, especially how she came to appreciate Data.  I really think it was just that one episode that crazy Star Trek fans fixated on and couldn't get passed it.

"DAta could you help me with this."

"You called me DAta, my name is Data."

"DAta, Data, what's the difference."

"One is my name, one is not."

Why did that p@ss so many people off anyway.  Riker had similar reservations when he first met Data.

exodus201

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:27 am

Quote (TransphasicTorpedoes @ July 06 2009, 10:47 pm)
Quote (exodus201 @ June 29 2009, 6:27 pm)
Quote (TransphasicTorpedoes @ June 29 2009, 2:02 am)
Quote (exodus201 @ June 27 2009, 6:15 pm)
Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ June 28 2009, 2:23 pm)
Again with the Kes haters. ?He remember it isn't a big deal for an actor to leave and try to make movies. ?It isn't selling out it is called Star Money 3 The Search for More Money. ?Plane and simple. ?I think that is the only reason why people hate Kes. ?But if that is true then why don't people hate Denise Crosby for walking out the door of TNG.

Oh and by the way Alice Krige was much scarey than Susanna Thompson/ ?I liked them both but Kriges Borg queen voice makes you fear.

Kes has a very small fan base. ?
That doesn't make us haters, it just shows why the character didn't last on the show.

It's more like everyone in the world likes Kes except for a few naysayers that post here. Thats how I see it, anyway.

I'm sure if that were true, Kes would be on posters and T-shirts just like the rest of the cast. :)

She's on lots of stuff ...I just checked ebay.

Anyway, like I said, there's one or two naysayers. Thats about it.

So, did I.

It's the same 5 or 6 pieces of merchendise over and over again.

If their are so many of you, why is Lynx the only one that's vocal?

exodus201

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Report this Jul. 07 2009, 10:31 am

Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ July 07 2009, 8:44 am)
Quote (exodus201 @ July 06 2009, 8:52 pm)
Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ July 02 2009, 4:40 pm)
Yeah but Kes should not be hated because her character was weak you have to blame that on the producers because they failed to develop her character. ?I think it is easy for people to blame the actor for the role they play when it was a producer who wrote the character. ?I mean Trek fans really made me scratch my head when they preferred Dr. Crusher over Dr. Pulaski. ?I mean you had a case there where a superior actress in every way was booted out, why your guess is as good as mine.

Because Pulaski was irritating.
TNG was supposed to show us how evolved we had become in our thinking as humans but Pulaski was kind of prejudice, rude and never knew her place in the chain of command. ?Starfleet is still a type of military, Pulaski is insubordinate.

Oh blah that was what some critic said many years ago that wasn't true. ¿

No, this is me as a fan and viewer am saying now.


Why don't you try asking this question over on TNG forum and see if it just some critic or not.

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