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STAR TREK SUCKS SENSE TREK XI CAME OUT

cptdon

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Report this Apr. 22 2010, 11:07 pm

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While actually consider myself indifferent to TREK XI ?simply because my reasons for not liking it is basically the design of the Enterprise and that fact I usually choose other TREK ?movies when I pop one in the DVD player.

No, Star Trek does NOT suck since TREK XI ?came out because one movie can not make an entire franchise look bad. The reality is that there is a small portion of the fan base (TNG fans for the most part) that hate/dislike this movie simply because it's not the type of movie they wanted. These people that HATE the movie for no sane reason clearly fail to understand what TREK is about:

WAGON TRAIN ?to the STARS, not sit back and debate every scientific theory for hours on end (which can be entertaining in it's own right)

I am not a huge TNG fan, sure I like it fine, but by all accounts I am a TOS fan. That is why I do not like the film. I would rather they run the TNG crew through the dirt than the TOS crew.


Well the thing about is that it's NOT ?a TOS ?film due to the fact that these are not the same characters. Just because they have the same name and some of the same qualities it doesn't make it the same.

It is the TNG's version of TOS plain and simple.

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But to be fair, TOS (this movie was not a TOS movie) does not suck more, nor does TNG, DS9, or season 4 of ENT. Now maybe VOY sucks more or seasond 1-2 of ENT, but I don't know, I need more research!


Honestly TREK XI ?is a new TREK in it's own right. IMO ?there isn't any series of TREK ?that sucks. IMO seasons 1 & 2 are on the low end of TREK ?quality wise.
I find with TNG & ENT, there are episodes I do not like, some I even could say I hate, they are just terrible to me, but the series as the whole I like and because I have people who saw it all that I trust, I am enjoying ENT for really the first time. TNG, well I was always a TOS fan from being little, but TNG was my youth, I remember back watching TOS and TNG back to back. I remember saying, God that one sucked, from time to time. When DS9 came out I gave it a chance and enjoyed what I saw and VOY is the first Trek I turned my back on. We watched the first season of ENT and I just did not want to go any further.

The reason why I look forward to the next film is because I want it to be something I really enjoy and I hope what they do does that for me. So am I a hater? Hell I don't know, I would like to reserve my judgment for Star Trek XII: The II!

end of senseless rant.

JaydenJaneway

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Report this Oct. 28 2010, 2:50 pm

its just another movie that they couldnt be original and had to do something that already been done. just like almost every movie that their making right now has a duplicate. no, i dont think star trek franchise sucks just the last movie.


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Report this Oct. 29 2010, 9:04 am

I do not think it is an absolutely terrible film- I did not care for it, myself- but even if it is terrible, I would hardly agree that ALL of Star Trek now "sucks" because of it. If you do not like it, do not watch it... that is my opinion. It really should take more than a single movie to ruin one's entire perception of Star Trek. *shrug*


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Report this Oct. 29 2010, 9:22 am

Why are we even posting on this?

Not only is it on the wrong section, but it was started by a troll.

We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again. -Captain Jean Luc Picard

JaydenJaneway

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Report this Oct. 29 2010, 9:27 am

it doesnt ruin the rest of star trek for me either, the movie was just not what i expected it to be.

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Report this Nov. 01 2010, 8:06 pm

Quote: JaydenJaneway @ Oct. 29 2010, 9:27 am

it doesnt ruin the rest of star trek for me either, the movie was just not what i expected it to be.


I've noticed that it is common for Trek fans to immediately equate "not what I expected" to "IT SUCKS!!!"

It's a very disappointing phenomenon.

Also: was it REALLY necessary to resurrect this gem of a thread? What is up with everyone digging up 8-month old threads and commenting on them?? Seriously, enough already.

I AM KEE-ROCK!!

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Report this Nov. 07 2010, 4:35 pm

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Report this Nov. 07 2010, 4:39 pm

Quote: Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ May. 29 2009, 12:01 pm

The pole question is basicly: Do you think Star Trek XI sucks?

I believe it does and only supports a bunch of TV morons. ¿People who don't care about LIVING and only want popularity or to be entertained.

Because, Trek WAS about life. ¿Now its about being plugged in and being entertained.

Now, Because my point is that people will Vote no...I believe they will want to Vote yes or not vote at all to smash the theory as a opisite. ¿I appreciate if you will cast your vote properly as face value.

Now if you wish to say why you like Star Trek XI reboot or not, fine. ¿Actaully I welcome it because this subject is diverse.

Secondly, ¿keep it clean...this is a opinion discussion and EVERYONE is titled to there veiw. ¿Just stick to what you beleive.

I would LIKE to have 1 discussion without a message board riot erupting. ¿I understand that it is a diverse subject. ¿But we can discuss it like adults without becoming morons who argue.

There....I attacked the morons before they can present themselves.

Now...PROVE to me your not. ¿Just explain what you think without attacking me or anyone eases view.

No stupid smiley or angry faces unless your actaully speaking something.

I remind everyone of the rules because I find that nobody can fallow them around here do to a history around here.

As for me, I believe in yes some entertainment, but serous discussion when I'm watching TV or a movie.

First Contact is a prime example what Treks goal should be.

Watch it again...You can see theres some serous discussion, very little forced cartoon behavior that seems to reighn all around, action which takes away the drama movie conditioning, an actual GOAL all around good plot. ¿Some science that isn't real but could become real.

This is what I believe.

Now I welcome saying in a post if they agree with someones theory with a exception.

There is a line saying with what you disagree with and attacking. ¿So PLEASE remember that.

If you cant act like your adult, do NOT post and please don't go off topic.

Remember the subject is Star Trek XI and what you think about the reboot.

Nothing else. ¿If you wish to communicate something to everyone in general off topic, post in a more appropriate place. ¿If it a subject to a specific user. ¿That is why there is messenger. ¿But remember if they don't like it, I recall a block or report button. ¿But that is out of my control.

Anyone who wants to say the Rules are off topic, there always a topic. ¿As the website has designated the rules on each board as a message.

Thanks for your patience those who keep the guidelines in practice.


i agree with the attacking. it seems like in almost every thread theres someone who has to smart off about what people post. its like people have nothing else better to do what bash what other people are saying just because they dont agree with your opinion.

silvik123

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Report this Nov. 08 2010, 1:22 pm

Star trek sucks ever since Enterprise came out. Star trek XI is not the best but I thought it was fairly good. It could have been a lot worse, for which I'm thankful.

JaydenJaneway

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Report this Nov. 08 2010, 1:33 pm

Quote: silvik123 @ Nov. 08 2010, 1:22 pm

Star trek sucks ever since Enterprise came out. Star trek XI is not the best but I thought it was fairly good. It could have been a lot worse, for which I'm thankful.

i thought that too at first but ive been watching it again and starting to love it. at least they tried to fit it into the timeline correctly and not change it like they did when they destroyed vulcan.

2takesfrakes

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Report this Nov. 08 2010, 6:03 pm

NEXT GENERATION is the TOTAL PACKAGE!!!
I love ALL the seasons, the movies ...
So no more talking about unpleasant things,
alright? No more badmouthing this franchise.
I LOVE me some NEXT GENERATION and I hope ...
ok? HOPE!!! that you all can be with me on this!


JaydenJaneway

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Report this Nov. 11 2010, 7:06 am

Quote: 2takesfrakes @ Nov. 08 2010, 6:03 pm

NEXT GENERATION is the TOTAL PACKAGE!!!
I love ALL the seasons, the movies ...
So no more talking about unpleasant things,
alright? No more badmouthing this franchise.
I LOVE me some NEXT GENERATION and I hope ...
ok? HOPE!!! that you all can be with me on this!


agreed, tng put star trek on the map again, and no other series can ever come close to tng

2takesfrakes

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Report this Nov. 11 2010, 10:23 pm

Very well said, JaydenJaneway!

It has Roddenberry's stamp all
over it, too. Everything fans
had come to expect from STAR
TREK, they got that with TNG:
*Beautiful girls
*Interesting characters
*Adventure/Drama/Sci-Fi
*Gene's personal vision, in full
In an instant ... it was all there.
And the success of every spin-off
after it, owes it a debt of some sort.

switcherdawna

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Report this Jan. 07 2011, 10:23 am

The Vulcans indeed have emotion "moreso than humans" as Sarek said... they just control them with logic as to not let emotion make them do things they regret.
ST XI showed interesting parts of the main characters' youth, and their turning points that led them to Starfleet. Kirk and Spock have very different ways to get to their goals, but by the end of the movie they both have a degree of understanding and respect for each other.
Seeing that it was a 'different timeline', it's interesting how they end up with the same crew (like it's fate), and they're prepared to go on to the same adventures the timeline likely has much the same as the other did.

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