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galaxyquest009

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Report this Sep. 29 2009, 7:19 pm

This is a peacefu l conversational t hread you got here, Yanks. I sure do appreciate peaceful conversation. I'll be back.

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Report this Nov. 06 2009, 6:05 pm

This is a nice thread with good reviews. It was awhile since the movie but I am anticipating the release to watch again on dvd. I will contribute a review and also my thoughts on the current state with Star Trek.

I saw this movie 3 times. After years of anticipation I wondered how it can live up to the expectations for everyone? Well after my 1st viewing I did like the movie but I had some disappointment and questions. I thought it was very good but there were some things I feel could be improved. It was during this time I would read negative reviews and relate which made me very surprised. I examined what I feel could be improved and kept it in mind for my next viewings.

In the next viewings some of my questions were answered. There are still parts I would improve but overall I was satisfied with this movie. It was very character driven and the cast was excellent! The visuals were also new and colorful even with some excessive lense flare effects. The plot can be improved because there are some parts that seem far fetched. This may be purposeful but it also detracts from believability for some viewers.

There are comments that this is not Star Trek and I must disagree. This is very much Star Trek but not everyone may feel this way. For me it stays true with the vision of Gene Roddenberry and also represents what Star Trek is about. This movie brought more energy to Star Trek and more people are interested again. I will give this movie a rating somewhere around 8/10 because it was very good but can be improved. It achieved financial and critical success and I am glad for Star Trek to be moving on. It is my hope for the next movie to be even more improved!

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Report this Nov. 09 2009, 1:13 pm

Quote (SeerSGB @ Nov. 09 2009, 12:48 pm)
Okay got to see it for free, so I saw it over the summer

A few quick points:

-- The ship looked better on the big screen than I thought it would. Still not The Enterprise to me, but it's not as bad as I had thought it would be. ¿I think it could grow on me in timem.

-- Story. ¿The story felt rushed and I think they left out to many critical points. Some of the scenes they deleted I think would have helped the movie greatly. ¿Nero doesn't come across that sympathetic, despite what happens, and I think they pissed away what could have been a good character.

-- Beer refinery Engineering and produce-freezer curtains on the shuttles...yeah, I'd get banned if I said what I thought of that whole mess.

-- Special effects. ¿As expected, top notch. ¿

-- Soundtrack, a few hitches here and there-- mainly with the reveal of Big-E-- solid music score, and enjoyable.

Ultimately, I'd have to agree with you on almost all your points.

Overall, I found it to be wildly entertaining and rewarding. Most of the "complaints" I have are similar to yours...in that they are about the details and not very much about the substance.

I hated the engineering sets, and I am pretty lukewarm about the design of the ship as a whole, both inside and out. The exterior does look nice on the big screen, but I prefer the original designs (TV and refit).

I thought the pacing was just a little TOO fast. It reminded me of "Attack of the Clones" and "Revenge of the Sith," which both seemed like they jammed what should have been 4-hour stories into 2 hours and 20 minutes. I think for the next one, they should try to pace it a little bit slower, maybe more like an Indiana Jones flick.

I also thought that they really blew an opportunity with Nero, especially considering the caliber of actor they had playing him. A few extra minutes here and there giving depth to that character (while trimming out Scotty in the water pipes for example) would have gone a long way.

For the most part though, everything else was very good, if not excellent. The soundtrack was excellent, and I actually enjoyed it much more than Jerry Goldsmith's outings for NEM and INS (and Goldsmith is my favorite by far). The special effects were awesome, and I loved the visual style of the space sequences they chose to go with. Most importantly, the cast, characters, dialogue, and "heart" was dead-on and carried what was otherwise a pretty average story.

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Report this Nov. 09 2009, 1:52 pm

Quote (SeerSGB @ Nov. 09 2009, 1:25 pm)
There's some really good potential in the story. But, IMO, hey could have jettisoned the "origin" story angle, and just made it about Nero and Spock. Have the crew already together, you could have Spock take over the ship and set out to stop Nero and make it much more personal. ?As it is, it waffles between being a event story and a character story and, while entertaining in a Star Wars sort of way, it never congeals into its fullest potential.

This is another good point you make. It is true they made it an event movie and also an origins movie. This is why it must be created with such a fast pace and some scenes must be cut. To make sense with the main event and also the background to how the crew comes together is a lot of story to tell. Taking out some of the background or origins of crew coming together could make the story more improved. I see where they even combined the event with origins like finding Spock prime and Scotty on Delta IV with young Kirk. I did not like this scenario as much and I feel it is an example of trying to bring together all which you describe and not always in the best way.

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Report this Nov. 11 2009, 4:23 pm

What pleasa nt conversation. My feet are up, I'm kickin back list ening. Keep on talkin g. Only wanted you to know I;m enjoying it here and will surely talk if I hav e a thought on a matter. In the meantime, listening is fine for me.

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Report this Jan. 28 2010, 1:52 pm

Quote (SeerSGB @ Nov. 09 2009, 12:48 pm)
Okay got to see it for free, so I saw it over the summer

A few quick points:

-- The ship looked better on the big screen than I thought it would. Still not The Enterprise to me, but it's not as bad as I had thought it would be. ¿I think it could grow on me in timem.

-- Story. ¿The story felt rushed and I think they left out to many critical points. Some of the scenes they deleted I think would have helped the movie greatly. ¿Nero doesn't come across that sympathetic, despite what happens, and I think they pissed away what could have been a good character.

-- Beer refinery Engineering and produce-freezer curtains on the shuttles...yeah, I'd get banned if I said what I thought of that whole mess.

-- Special effects. ¿As expected, top notch. ¿

-- Soundtrack, a few hitches here and there-- mainly with the reveal of Big-E-- solid music score, and enjoyable.

Seer they have the edited scenes on the BluRay disc. I think they have them on the regular DVD also but I forget if they have a two-disc regular DVD with deleted scenes or a single disc DVD?

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Report this Jul. 27 2010, 2:52 pm

I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes by necro-posting this topic. I simply wanted the OP to know that I had read and enjoyed the review.

And to add my comments. After my first viewing of the movie, I agreed with the OP (Yanks), the music was not noticable. However I did see it a second time, and I've watched it numerous times on DVD. (My friends hate me for my ability to enjoy things again right after I've seen them.) And the music has grown on me, it's now Star Trek music to me along with any other theme.

I also definitely agree with the light-hearted nature of the movie. THIS ESPECIALLY was a breath of fresh-air from the TNG films (which got more and more depressing as they went on, and culminated in Nemesis, although Insurrection was slightly more light-hearted.) But also if you compare it to other reboots (Batman, James Bond), it certainly didn't go the way of 'tortured and conflicted heroes struggling with their lives' character arc, which is way overplayed now.

The light-heartedness of it was really endearing imo.

I also got a thrill of all the little nods and homages. From Archer's beagle, to the Katric Arch, to the sound effects and uniforms. Yeah the bridge looks like it was designed by Apple, but it also looked cool and I could forgive that.

I actually enjoyed watching Nimoy in the role that he perfected.

Oh and someone mentioned Chekov's accent. As someone who lives in a country where the official language is not my mother-tongue, I loved that and found it endearing. Danish is harder to pronounce than Klingon.

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Report this Jul. 28 2010, 7:54 am

I also wanted to add that I think Bones was cast amazingly. Karl Urban nailed his speech mannerisms. I loved it.

Also I loved the Enterprise itself. Watching it go to warp on the big screen, really brought back all the fascination and endlessness of space that got me into Star Trek in the first place. It was like being a kid again in some ways. You know... magical.

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Report this Jul. 30 2010, 4:42 am

Yeah, from such a B-actor? Ha what an awesome surprise.

I don't mean that he's a terrible actor, I mean that he's mostly been in B-films it seems.

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Report this Aug. 13 2010, 4:38 pm

Did you see it with the Shat? LOL..Ya wish!!Wouldn't we ALL!?...Hey, better late for the party, than never, eh?....You ref'd the music, Yanks....see, it is pretty darn good, isn't it? Even if some fans might tire a bit of ''Enterprising Young Men' thrown in, etc..nah, not me...would like to have the added score that came out...


''If I were captain, i'd open every crack in the universe, and peek inside, just like Captain Janeway does''-Kes, ''The Cloud''

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Report this Sep. 27 2010, 2:07 pm

I didn't pay for that one, but would have been there otherwise. I love symphonic scores, as indicated elsewhere. Bet that really was wild, hearing it that way. There is a Giaccino live vid someone shot at an event last summer around the time of the film's release, in which he is conducting ''Enterprising Young Men''


''If I were captain, i'd open every crack in the universe, and peek inside, just like Captain Janeway does''-Kes, ''The Cloud''

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