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May. 20 2009, 11:26 pm
| Quote (Vice_Adm_Baxter @ May 20 2009, 10:21 pm) | | Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 7:18 pm) | | Quote (Vice_Adm_Baxter @ May 20 2009, 10:06 pm) | | Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 4:09 pm) | Will they bring back Carol Marcus?
Will they bring back the Romulan captain babe that captivated Spock?
Will Khan be wrathful again? |
We might know as early as 2011.
Although I think bringing back Khan would be a very bad ideal. |
The current writers have such a limited imagination, anything is possible.
Jim and Carol live in a rose covered cottage on Alpha Centuri and every Sunday Jim and David play a game of spaceball as Uncle Leonard and Uncle Spock smile beatifically from among the roses. |
Hmmmm I'm ¿thinking they might have a "Harry Mudd" character in the next movie.
It would be nice if they went ahead and started the 5 yr mission and went from there. |
Star Dreck: Frat Boys in Space do Sophomoric Stunts |
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May. 21 2009, 2:56 am
As an action movie to those that know absolutely nothing about Star Trek, it was an ok movie. For a real Star Trek fan, this was crap. This was lazy writing done by writers that know very little about Star Trek and lame acting at it's best. Hell, even Abrams admitted his lack of Star Trek knowledge. The one redeeming character was Spock, who somewhat accurately showed Spock's human/vulcan inner struggle. Any writer worth his salt could have written a prequel that keeps the time line intact. What a cop out and total lack of respect for one of the most enduring franchises in history. Even I could make up a story and simply attribute it to the alternate time line. Looks like it's reruns for me.
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May. 21 2009, 4:19 am
I want a new recast!
One movie is too much canon. Today's audience will not be able to follow the plot with so much canon information.
We need a reboot!
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May. 21 2009, 9:10 am
| Quote (trekkiebill_1961 @ May 21 2009, 2:56 am) | | As an action movie to those that know absolutely nothing about Star Trek, it was an ok movie. For a real Star Trek fan, this was crap. This was lazy writing done by writers that know very little about Star Trek and lame acting at it's best. Hell, even Abrams admitted his lack of Star Trek knowledge. The one redeeming character was Spock, who somewhat accurately showed Spock's human/vulcan inner struggle. Any writer worth his salt could have written a prequel that keeps the time line intact. What a cop out and total lack of respect for one of the most enduring franchises in history. Even I could make up a story and simply attribute it to the alternate time line. Looks like it's reruns for me. |
As one who was looking forward to a reboot, I was really unnerved by some of the liberties the writers took. I can't determine if they decided to jettison all of the character development canon information as too restrictive, or if they are going for a new audience and don't care that some of their changes are offensive and nonsensical, or if they didn't know any better. But I honestly think they could have captured the imagination and loyalty of both new and existing audiences had they been willing to write an intelligent script that at least acknowledged some character traits are too precious to be lost. To be glib about: Star Dreck: Frat Boys in Space kept the mini skirts but eviscerated the heart of the story. It was a swing and a miss. Finally, obviously this new Star Trek was a new Star Trek. The last time we saw Capt. Kirk Prime, he was dead. You knew then that there would not be another Star Trek with the original characters. But if one is determined to start from the beginning with the original characters, one could have at least acknowledged their iconic status by not trying to, for example, turn Spock into a romantic lead. I was more saddened and disappointed by the reboot. I did not expect to see warmed over Star Wars. |
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May. 22 2009, 7:38 pm
well as a life long star trek fan i was so very disapointed with this new movie  To say it could have been better is an under statment i have seen much better on Fan based web sites and others (Of Gods & Men) springs to mind it has it all The Enterprise in the new movie looks like something out of a bad B movie with lots of pipes with water in engeneering to the Glass look of the bridge What was wrong with keeping it plain and simple and futuristic looking. Dont get me wrong the Special FX look great but it all comes down to the story line (BAD) And one of the biggest points i have to make is why in the world would anyone give a raw cadett caommand of a starship after one mission lol come on its like giving a raw midshipman comand of an aircraft carrier just because an admiral likes him. I could spend all day picking holes in this new movie but be tell the truth it isn't worth it as it was not for the fans it was just to make money and nothing else, from now on i will stick with the fan based movies as they stay true to the spirit of Star Trek |
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May. 23 2009, 12:18 am
| Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 7:09 pm) | Will they bring back Carol Marcus?
Will they bring back the Romulan captain babe that captivated Spock?
Will Khan be wrathful again? |
Khan maybe a bad idea but I wrote a #### good story for it! And how the heck did this topic get a sticky on it? I am jealous? Anyacat are you doing naughty things for board administrators? By naughty I mean ringing the neighbors doorbell and running off! |
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May. 23 2009, 12:51 am
This is film is yet to be a bigger grosser than the others. Remember , tickets cost more now than hey did in 1979 or 1982. This film will have to make 300 million to pass star trek 2.
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May. 23 2009, 3:35 pm
^^ It will have to make more than $249 Million to pass TMP's domestical total.
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May. 23 2009, 4:10 pm
| Quote (loveroftrekmen @ May 16 2009, 12:50 am) | | I think it's insulting to old trek fans to try and stay in a used up timeline when we can start something fresh to explore a new love for the show, new connections, and new relations to our loved universe of Trek. |
The question that came to my mind is; if the new movie is set in an alternative reality rather than the "real" Star Trek Universe with an altered timeline, can it be deemed to be Star Trek as opposed to 'based on Star Trek'?? |
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May. 24 2009, 10:47 pm
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May. 24 2009, 11:03 pm
The reason behind the whole alternate realty is ...... JJ abrams is a joke. They couldnt write a decent script. they are morons. That's the only way they can make a movie.......how sad. It could of been great.
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May. 27 2009, 12:21 am
MARK MY WORDS!!!!! THIS NEW TIMELINE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A SCHISM IN THE STAR TREK FANBASE! WHAT J.J. AND HIS BUDDIES ARE SAYING TO THE OLD TREK FANS IS, "YOU CAN HAVE YOUR TREK, BUT SO CAN WE! WE DON'T WANT YOU GUYS PREACHING AT US, SO THERE, I'M DRAWING A LINE. STAY ON YOUR SIDE AND DON'T BOTHER US. THIS PROPERTY DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU GUYS. WE CAN MAKE TREK FUN, PROFITTABLE, AND COOL."
J.J., YOU ARE A DIVIDER, NOT A UNITER.
PEACE TO ALL.
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May. 27 2009, 2:40 pm
| Quote (trekkiebill_1961 @ May 21 2009, 2:56 am) | | As an action movie to those that know absolutely nothing about Star Trek, it was an ok movie. For a real Star Trek fan, this was crap. This was lazy writing done by writers that know very little about Star Trek and lame acting at it's best. Hell, even Abrams admitted his lack of Star Trek knowledge. The one redeeming character was Spock, who somewhat accurately showed Spock's human/vulcan inner struggle. Any writer worth his salt could have written a prequel that keeps the time line intact. What a cop out and total lack of respect for one of the most enduring franchises in history. Even I could make up a story and simply attribute it to the alternate time line. Looks like it's reruns for me. |
 Speaking of reruns; I started re-watching TOS from the beginning a few days ago, after seeing the movie, and some of JJ's references kind of popped out. It makes sense that he would [only?] borrow from the beginning since it is an alternate timeline. And yes, there is plenty of old trek, if you don't like the new movie, don't watch any new stuff....problem solved. If some 'trekkers' really have some good ideas, come up with your own funding and make a movie. If its good...they will come, I certainly would. Next. |
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May. 28 2009, 8:07 pm
Here we go!!! The straight lace Star trek fans thinking JJ Abrams is Star warsing Star trek. I Grew up Watching Star trek. Infact my Dad bought Videos of the original Series from the sixties when I was A kid. I remember watching Trouble with Tribbles over and Over again. But I'm Also A Star Wars fan. I will say this J.J. Abrams Version of Trek may look Like Star Wars. But I felt more like I was watching Star Trek than Star Wars. ¿My Uncle is a big Star Trek fan and Even he loved the Abrams version. I understand you are Purists and don't like the fact that the Time line was mess'd up. But look how the Star wars fans thought of the Prequels. I mean Lucas Digitally Replaced Anikens face with Hayden Christenson in The DVD version of the Original Star wars Trillogy (you bet I was mad about that). But look even you Purists will admit that nemesis was a lame @$$ attempt for a Star trek Movie. I will just say this Shattner (a big Star trek fan now) likes this movie, and even ¿ ¿ Gene Roddenberry's own son Rod Approves. So to be Upset about star trek XI is like trying to be a mean Ferengi trying to sell old warp cores. I say this be like a Klingon and keep your Honor, and if you liked nemesis more than the new trek I say this "Vengeance is a Dish Best served cold." |
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May. 29 2009, 9:55 pm
| Quote (rayjay99 @ May 28 2009, 8:07 pm) | Here we go!!! The straight lace Star trek fans thinking JJ Abrams is Star warsing Star trek. I Grew up Watching Star trek. Infact my Dad bought Videos of the original Series from the sixties when I was A kid. I remember watching Trouble with Tribbles over and Over again.
But I'm Also A Star Wars fan. I will say this J.J. Abrams Version of Trek may look Like Star Wars. But I felt more like I was watching Star Trek than Star Wars. ?My Uncle is a big Star Trek fan and Even he loved the Abrams version. I understand you are Purists and don't like the fact that the Time line was mess'd up. But look how the Star wars fans thought of the Prequels. I mean Lucas Digitally Replaced Anikens face with Hayden Christenson in The DVD version of the Original Star wars Trillogy (you bet I was mad about that). But look even you Purists will admit that nemesis was a lame @$$ attempt for a Star trek Movie. I will just say this Shattner (a big Star trek fan now) likes this movie, and even ? ?Gene Roddenberry's own son Rod Approves. So to be Upset about star trek XI is like trying to be a mean Ferengi trying to sell old warp cores.
I say this be like a Klingon and keep your Honor, and if you liked nemesis more than the new trek I say this "Vengeance is a Dish Best served cold." |
Star Dreck: Frat Boys in Space certainly did not work for me, but I am glad your uncle was thrilled. It's not a matter of being an odd ball purist to note that it is illogical to accept that an ensign fresh from the academy would be promoted to captain based on one action, regardless of what that action might be. It was a stupid script that could easily been made sense had the writers had even a modicum of respect for the material, or the characters, or the audience. And yes, it looked like a cheap knock-off Star Wars clone. |
