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CaptainJimbo

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Report this May. 18 2009, 5:10 pm

When I went to see the new film the Thursday night before the opening I was surprised to see the fans ranging in age 17-30 years old. Hmmm, some of them came dressed as Star Wars characters too. Looks like there is a whole new audience for Star Trek. Now that George Lucas has reduced his franchise to an animated special format there is a big cross-over audience to the new J.J. Abrahms series of film(s). May Star Trek live long and prosper...Already this film is a bigger grosser of all of the rest. For us old Trekkers, we can live secure that the old reality is still alive and coming out in Blue-Ray.

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CaptainJimbo

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Report this May. 18 2009, 5:14 pm

One bit of miss-casting. The Orion Animal Girl who was Uhura's roomie seemed a bit ditsy for a sultry, slave girl.

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Somniac

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Report this May. 19 2009, 5:41 am

I'm glad it's a hit of course, but the new direction is not for me. I will have to content myself with re watching pre reboot. Which is fine as I have plenty to choose from.

Anyacat

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Report this May. 20 2009, 1:24 pm

Quote (CaptainJimbo @ May 18 2009, 5:14 pm)
One bit of miss-casting. The Orion Animal Girl who was Uhura's roomie seemed a bit ditsy for a sultry, slave girl.

:sick:

That was no slave girl, that was an academy student

Captain_Storma

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Report this May. 20 2009, 7:02 pm

Well now, that they opened Pandora's Box...

I want a new TOS crew for the next film!!!
A new design of the Enterprise (should look much cooler than in this one), and a new plot setup!!!

So that they will not have to worry about canon... hell, we do not need it. They would have to spend time and do research on TREK XI to write a sequel... instead, let's just reboot it.

This time Nero does back in time destroys the Kelvin, but his ship is also destroyed in the process...

Oh and TREK XIII should deal with Kirk never being born.

Maybe we can make movies about every single decission Kirk made in his life and explore the alternative...
What would happen if he dated Sandy instead of Sandra...

I am all in for reinventions... heck there are so many alternatives to explore.  :sarcastic:

Anyacat

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Report this May. 20 2009, 7:09 pm

Will they bring back Carol Marcus?
Will they bring back the Romulan captain babe that captivated Spock?
Will Khan be wrathful again?

Vice_Adm_Baxter

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Report this May. 20 2009, 10:06 pm

Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 4:09 pm)
Will they bring back Carol Marcus?
Will they bring back the Romulan captain babe that captivated Spock?
Will Khan be wrathful again?

We might know as early as 2011.

Although I think bringing back Khan would be a very bad ideal.

Anyacat

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Report this May. 20 2009, 10:18 pm

Quote (Vice_Adm_Baxter @ May 20 2009, 10:06 pm)
Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 4:09 pm)
Will they bring back Carol Marcus?
Will they bring back the Romulan captain babe that captivated Spock?
Will Khan be wrathful again?

We might know as early as 2011.

Although I think bringing back Khan would be a very bad ideal.

The current writers have such a limited imagination, anything is possible.

Jim and Carol live in a rose covered cottage on Alpha Centuri and every Sunday Jim and David play a game of spaceball as Uncle Leonard and Uncle Spock smile beatifically from among the roses.

Vice_Adm_Baxter

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Report this May. 20 2009, 10:21 pm

Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 7:18 pm)
Quote (Vice_Adm_Baxter @ May 20 2009, 10:06 pm)
Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 4:09 pm)
Will they bring back Carol Marcus?
Will they bring back the Romulan captain babe that captivated Spock?
Will Khan be wrathful again?

We might know as early as 2011.

Although I think bringing back Khan would be a very bad ideal.

The current writers have such a limited imagination, anything is possible.

Jim and Carol live in a rose covered cottage on Alpha Centuri and every Sunday Jim and David play a game of spaceball as Uncle Leonard and Uncle Spock smile beatifically from among the roses.

Hmmmm I'm  thinking they might have a "Harry Mudd" character in the next movie.

It would be nice if they went ahead and started the 5 yr mission and went from there.

Anyacat

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Report this May. 20 2009, 11:26 pm

Quote (Vice_Adm_Baxter @ May 20 2009, 10:21 pm)
Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 7:18 pm)
Quote (Vice_Adm_Baxter @ May 20 2009, 10:06 pm)
Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 4:09 pm)
Will they bring back Carol Marcus?
Will they bring back the Romulan captain babe that captivated Spock?
Will Khan be wrathful again?

We might know as early as 2011.

Although I think bringing back Khan would be a very bad ideal.

The current writers have such a limited imagination, anything is possible.

Jim and Carol live in a rose covered cottage on Alpha Centuri and every Sunday Jim and David play a game of spaceball as Uncle Leonard and Uncle Spock smile beatifically from among the roses.

Hmmmm I'm ¿thinking they might have a "Harry Mudd" character in the next movie.

It would be nice if they went ahead and started the 5 yr mission and went from there.

Star Dreck: Frat Boys in Space do Sophomoric Stunts

trekkiebill_1961

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Report this May. 21 2009, 2:56 am

As an action movie to those that know absolutely nothing about Star Trek, it was an ok movie. For a real Star Trek fan, this was crap. This was lazy writing done by writers that know very little about Star Trek and lame acting at it's best. Hell, even Abrams admitted his lack of Star Trek knowledge. The one redeeming character was Spock, who somewhat accurately showed Spock's human/vulcan inner struggle. Any writer worth his salt could have written a prequel that keeps the time line intact. What a cop out and total lack of respect for one of the most enduring franchises in history. Even I could make up a story and simply attribute it to the alternate time line. Looks like it's reruns for me.

Captain_Storma

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Report this May. 21 2009, 4:19 am

I want a new recast!

One movie is too much canon. Today's audience will not be able to follow the plot with so much canon information.

We need a reboot!

Anyacat

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Report this May. 21 2009, 9:10 am

Quote (trekkiebill_1961 @ May 21 2009, 2:56 am)
As an action movie to those that know absolutely nothing about Star Trek, it was an ok movie. For a real Star Trek fan, this was crap. This was lazy writing done by writers that know very little about Star Trek and lame acting at it's best. Hell, even Abrams admitted his lack of Star Trek knowledge. The one redeeming character was Spock, who somewhat accurately showed Spock's human/vulcan inner struggle. Any writer worth his salt could have written a prequel that keeps the time line intact. What a cop out and total lack of respect for one of the most enduring franchises in history. Even I could make up a story and simply attribute it to the alternate time line. Looks like it's reruns for me.

As one who was looking forward to a reboot, I was really unnerved by some of the liberties the writers took. I can't determine if they decided to jettison all of the character development canon information as too restrictive, or if they are going for a new audience and don't care that some of their changes are offensive and nonsensical, or if they didn't know any better. But I honestly think they could have captured the imagination and loyalty of both new and existing audiences had they been willing  to write an intelligent script that at least acknowledged some character traits are too precious to be lost. To be glib about: Star Dreck: Frat Boys in Space kept the mini skirts but eviscerated the heart of the story. It was a swing and a miss.

Finally, obviously this new Star Trek was a new Star Trek. The last time we saw Capt. Kirk Prime, he was dead. You knew then that there would not be another Star Trek with the original characters. But if one is determined to start from the beginning with the original characters, one could have at least acknowledged their iconic status by not trying to, for example, turn Spock into a romantic lead.

I was more saddened and disappointed by the reboot. I did not expect to see warmed over Star Wars.

tosev3200

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Report this May. 22 2009, 7:38 pm

well as a life long star trek fan i was so very disapointed with this new movie :(
To say it could have been better is an under statment i have seen much better on Fan based web sites and others (Of Gods & Men) springs to mind it has it all
The Enterprise in the new movie looks like something out of a bad B movie with lots of pipes with water in engeneering to the Glass look of the bridge What was wrong with keeping it plain and simple and futuristic looking. Dont get me wrong the Special FX look great but it all comes down to the story line (BAD) And one of the biggest points i have to make is why in the world would anyone give a raw cadett caommand of a starship after one mission lol come on its like giving a raw midshipman comand of an aircraft carrier just because an admiral likes him.
I could spend all day picking holes in this new movie but be tell the truth it isn't worth it as it was not for the fans it was just to make money and nothing else, from now on i will stick with the fan based movies as they stay true to the spirit of Star Trek

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Report this May. 23 2009, 12:18 am

Quote (Anyacat @ May 20 2009, 7:09 pm)
Will they bring back Carol Marcus?
Will they bring back the Romulan captain babe that captivated Spock?
Will Khan be wrathful again?

Khan maybe a bad idea but I wrote a #### good story for it!

And how the heck did this topic get a sticky on it? I am jealous? Anyacat are you doing naughty things for board administrators?




















By naughty I mean ringing the neighbors doorbell and running off!

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