JackJones1972 GROUP: Members POSTS: 32  |
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Feb. 18 2009, 6:29 pm
Can anyone provide a clue, maybe it tickles being transported
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Feb. 19 2009, 1:50 am
Yep, I've wondered, but being as you are basically being 'disassembled' I imagine it would feel a lot like being put to sleep or like dying; in fact, I hate to sound morbid or what not, but I believe that dying is exactly what you may be doing =(
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Feb. 19 2009, 11:04 am
| Quote (JackJones1972 @ Feb. 17 2009, 7:29 pm) | | Can anyone provide a clue, maybe it tickles being transported |
since they are ripping you apart atom by atom it most likely exceed the greatest agony known to man, the good point is the fact that the reassemble person is really just a clone of the original he very likely have no memory of the pain...   |
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Feb. 19 2009, 11:05 am
according to the show it feels like nothing
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Feb. 19 2009, 6:19 pm
Watch Realm of Fear again.
We see what it looks like to be transported, and Barclay describes it at one point.
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dryson GROUP: Members POSTS: 550 |
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Feb. 26 2009, 12:15 am
And no they are not ripping you apart when you transport. The transporter simple demolecularizes every single atom in your better and then reassembles them into you at another location.
The pain that you are associating with transporting is not present because there is not a forced pulling of an area of skin where tendons, muscles and nerves are alerting the body that something is wrong. Instead the atoms are simutaneously de energized, meaning that their atomic bonds are disconnected from each other and then stored in a buffer.
Upon transporting to the location these atomic bonds are then reconnected, re-energized and the body is then fully formed again. Pain may be present however if the transport malfunctions and the atoms are rearranged improperly, just as was seen in ST:TMP. The Yoemens screams were most likely due to various parts of her body being re-assembled out of place, a femur reassembled in her chest, a partial lung forming in her stomach, her heart having the rib cage form through it.
This would be caused by the system not sequencing the return pattern correctly while in the buffer.
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dryson GROUP: Members POSTS: 550 |
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Feb. 26 2009, 12:17 am
| Quote | Watch Realm of Fear again.
We see what it looks like to be transported, and Barclay describes it at one point. |
You also have to remember that Barclay had a disease I believe that made his senses accurate to a certain form of stress. |
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Mar. 05 2009, 3:47 pm
You dodn't feel anything. It happens before you even realize and there is no pain or feeling in to it.
What concerns me is the fact if is you on the other end or just a nice copy. According to the research we made until now teleportation is made possible by copying every atom and putting it back together. So your actual atoms are not transporter and reassembled. What happens is that they get copied and there copies get reassembled on the other side.
So basically you are dead. But at the same time a new you is created. That may also prove that there is no soul and all we are is the body and the memories we have. Since the copy having our body and memories thinks, feels and acts exactly like us. Maybe man is just a machine. A biological machine but a machine nevertheless.
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Mar. 19 2009, 5:06 am
| Quote (dryson @ Feb. 26 2009, 12:15 am) | And no they are not ripping you apart when you transport. The transporter simple demolecularizes every single atom in your better and then reassembles them into you at another location.
The pain that you are associating with transporting is not present because there is not a forced pulling of an area of skin where tendons, muscles and nerves are ¿alerting the body that something is wrong. Instead the atoms are simutaneously de energized, meaning that their atomic bonds are disconnected from each other and then stored in a buffer.
Upon transporting to the location these atomic bonds are then reconnected, re-energized and the body is then fully formed again. Pain may be present however if the transport malfunctions and the atoms are rearranged improperly, just as was seen in ST:TMP. The Yoemens screams were most likely due to various parts of her body being re-assembled out of place, a femur reassembled in her chest, a partial lung forming in her stomach, her heart having the rib cage form through it.
This would be caused by the system not sequencing the return pattern correctly while in the buffer. |
This seems to be the most likely.  |
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Mar. 21 2009, 1:46 am
| Quote (dryson @ Feb. 25 2009, 11:15 pm) | Upon transporting to the location these atomic bonds are then reconnected, re-energized and the body is then fully formed again. Pain may be present however if the transport malfunctions and the atoms are rearranged improperly, just as was seen in ST:TMP. The Yoemens screams were most likely due to various parts of her body being re-assembled out of place, a femur reassembled in her chest, a partial lung forming in her stomach, her heart having the rib cage form through it.
This would be caused by the system not sequencing the return pattern correctly while in the buffer. |
Hehe, geeeez that sounds scary. Sorry, but even if transporters come to pass in my lifetime (which I doubt, for in my opinion, the computational demands alone are mind boggling), I think I'd have to pass - unless my life depended on it, of course. I mean, it may be all well and good for an apple or an orange, because for all intents and purposes, it's still the same apple or orange (that didn't scream out in agony as it 'rematerialized' all messed up or even just a little messed up, btw...), but yeah. I'm just thinkin' that what we would actually be doing would be analyzing and dismantling something (scanning and destroying) and recreating it (i.e. cloning). I think we'd quite possibly have died once the transporter engaged - painless or not - and never truly get to where we were going. Sure, a clone that didn't know it was a clone might appear at the destination, and who would know the difference, right? In fact, how would we ever know if it worked or not - you know what I mean? How would we ever know if we were truly transported or just cloned? lol Man, that's weird... Aside from that, I think Barclay said it best, and being as computers and all things electrical - can and do - sometimes have lil' glitches, I'm just not sure I'd trust something like transporters - not sure I'd put my existence in the hands of 'zeros and ones'. I dunno, it just doesn't sound like something I'd be interested in trying out, actually... |
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Apr. 17 2009, 10:16 pm
| Quote | You dodn't feel anything. It happens before you even realize and there is no pain or feeling in to it.
What concerns me is the fact if is you on the other end or just a nice copy. According to the research we made until now teleportation is made possible by copying every atom and putting it back together. So your actual atoms are not transporter and reassembled. What happens is that they get copied and there copies get reassembled on the other side.
So basically you are dead. But at the same time a new you is created. That may also prove that there is no soul and all we are is the body and the memories we have. Since the copy having our body and memories thinks, feels and acts exactly like us. Maybe man is just a machine. A biological machine but a machine nevertheless. |
I see what you are getting at now, At the intial transport site, the molecular information within the cells is copied, then transported to the new site. It sorta sounds like taking the yoke , or the persons molecules, out of one confining shell, or egg and then transferring them into another egg,.With the first molecular egg shell being caught in the buffer system and disposed off while at the transported to site new molecular egg shells would be transported ahead .001 seconds ahead of the molecular information from the old shell with the molecular information occupying the each new egg shell cracking to release the human in a full and moleculary stable form. |
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Apr. 21 2009, 10:18 pm
As Douglas Adams said: "If you have to take me apart to get me there, I don't want to go." |
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May. 19 2009, 11:51 am
ttt
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May. 21 2009, 1:50 am
Well since in the show when you are transported, the whole body is done at once, I would think that you don't feel anything because the molecules that make up the nerve cells are disassembled and there is no continuity for the electrical signal of pain to travel to the brain.
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May. 22 2009, 5:50 am
I agree I think that your conciousness would seek to exist until you were entirely put back together as it were, this means that you would have absolutely not memory from the the beam being switched on to you arriving at your destination whole.
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