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blankenship

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Report this Dec. 19 2008, 8:31 pm

So, where's the proof?

GrandLunar2007

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Report this Dec. 20 2008, 7:47 am

We don't have it yet.

It's going to be a long time before we get it.

Right now, our best places to look for proof in our own solar system is Europa's under ice ocean, the innards of Enceleadus (and I bet I botched up that spelling), and deep under ground on Mars.

lanceromega

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Report this Dec. 22 2008, 4:01 pm

Quote (blankenship @ Dec. 18 2008, 9:31 pm)
So, where's the proof?

look in the mirror.. Earth is just one off billions of planets in our galaxy, which is one of billions of galaxies. The fact that we exist is pretty much a mathematical proof that life can arise on a planet. the odds would insure that it has happen else where.

Along with this we are constantly picking up traces of organic materials , in meteor, comets and even space nebulas.

Components of proteins and complex sugar that normally we associate with life, have been found floating in outer space, while we have found complex carbohydrates and amino acids in meteor, show that all the components need to construct simple life form exist even in the vacuum of space.

Recent spectrological studies of near by stars and newly discovered planets has show oxygen, and water vapor another need componets of life.

Now this is alot of evident that the universe is very friendly to life.

This doesn't take in account report of strange alien cells found in rain in india several years ago or even the countless reports of ufo that seem to haunt us.

While many ufo sightings can be simply written off as hoaxes, misidentification of common objects such as planets or satellites, there is small core that seem to be unexplainable, especially ones observed by expect witnesses such as airline and air force pilots.

One event that seem to be solid evident of an attempted contact with authorities was the Washington DC fly overs flight of 1952.

Along with visual sighting, there were radar contact and even sighting by air force pilots of objects over capitol. And the Fly over lasted for almost a week.

These sighting corresponded with flap of saucer sighting and mysterious air crashes of 100's miltary aircraft  ( these crashes actually became a subject of a book called "Shoot them Down, The Flying Saucer Air Wars Of 1952) in the 1952 indicate that there was more than just the usual weather balloon or swamp gas explaination going on.

While optical and radar mirages cannot be rule out, there is also a host of unexplain physical traces such hi radiation readings , landing marks, burnt vegestation that indicate some sort of physical objects.

While none of this can be consider sufficent proof of life on other planets, it would be enought to keep us open to chance that there is..

dryson

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Report this Dec. 23 2008, 5:45 pm

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look in the mirror.. Earth is just one off billions of planets in our galaxy, which is one of billions of galaxies. The fact that we exist is pretty much a mathematical proof that life can arise on a planet. the odds would insure that it has happen else where.

Along with this we are constantly picking up traces of organic materials , in meteor, comets and even space nebulas.

Components of proteins and complex sugar that normally we associate with life, have been found floating in outer space, while we have found complex carbohydrates and amino acids in meteor, show that all the components need to construct simple life form exist even in the vacuum of space.

Recent spectrological studies of near by stars and newly discovered planets has show oxygen, and water vapor another need componets of life.

Now this is alot of evident that the universe is very friendly to life.

This doesn't take in account report of strange alien cells found in rain in india several years ago or even the countless reports of ufo that seem to haunt us.

While many ufo sightings can be simply written off as hoaxes, misidentification of common objects such as planets or satellites, there is small core that seem to be unexplainable, especially ones observed by expect witnesses such as airline and air force pilots.

One event that seem to be solid evident of an attempted contact with authorities was the Washington DC fly overs flight of 1952.

Along with visual sighting, there were radar contact and even sighting by air force pilots of objects over capitol. And the Fly over lasted for almost a week.

These sighting corresponded with flap of saucer sighting and mysterious air crashes of 100's miltary aircraft ¿( these crashes actually became a subject of a book called "Shoot them Down, The Flying Saucer Air Wars Of 1952) in the 1952 indicate that there was more than just the usual weather balloon or swamp gas explaination going on.

While optical and radar mirages cannot be rule out, there is also a host of unexplain physical traces such hi radiation readings , landing marks, burnt vegestation that indicate some sort of physical objects.

While none of this can be consider sufficent proof of life on other planets, it would be enought to keep us open to chance that there is..


Well put Lancer, but I disagree with it being a longtime

If we look at the size of the Universe itself which is ,infinite, without bounds or borders, the only question to ask is when and how will better ready ourselves for FIRST CONTACT?

Only someone with a limited mind of being isolated here on Earth and someone having the mindset that when we discovered EST's (extra solar entities) it would dispell all notions of what have been conceived for thousands of years by little minds only able to see theirself at the top without really putting forth the effort to look beyond theirselves and that in reality is the real safe haven.

There is life in the Universe only those that don't conceive of this notion are that which is lifeless.

blankenship

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Report this Dec. 24 2008, 6:14 pm

Zero proof. Keep trying.

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Report this Dec. 24 2008, 10:52 pm

blankenship you are nothing more then a seemingless design of nuts bolts and inputs, someone inputs something in for you to spit back out to them, like a grocery list or last months Playboy issue. Open your mind to something other then the metallic taste of your own incapability to leap beyond what is put before you.

Life does exist, otherwise if it didn't you wouldnt be here.

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Report this Dec. 25 2008, 12:44 am

There is, as of yet, no known conclusive proof of the existence of life, as humans define it, beyond the confines of Earth. Although, it would be just as easy for one to say, "disprove it", on the matter of extra-terrestrial life. In that manner, it is similar to the debate on religion and faith. There is no one true definitive answer due to the lack of measurable evidence at this time.

The Drake equation may offer some insight and confirmation into your belief or disbelief in life outside our little blue orb.

blankenship

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Report this Dec. 26 2008, 9:46 pm

Quote (Darkpaths @ Dec. 25 2008, 12:44 am)
There is, as of yet, no known conclusive proof of the existence of life, as humans define it, beyond the confines of Earth. Although, it would be just as easy for one to say, "disprove it", on the matter of extra-terrestrial life. In that manner, it is similar to the debate on religion and faith. There is no one true definitive answer due to the lack of measurable evidence at this time.

The Drake equation may offer some insight and confirmation into your belief or disbelief in life outside our little blue orb.

The Drake Equation is nonsense. Not an equation.

Still no proof. Keep at it.

lanceromega

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Report this Dec. 29 2008, 10:59 am

Quote (blankenship @ Dec. 25 2008, 10:46 pm)
Quote (Darkpaths @ Dec. 25 2008, 12:44 am)
There is, as of yet, no known conclusive proof of the existence of life, as humans define it, beyond the confines of Earth. Although, it would be just as easy for one to say, "disprove it", on the matter of extra-terrestrial life. In that manner, it is similar to the debate on religion and faith. There is no one true definitive answer due to the lack of measurable evidence at this time.

The Drake equation may offer some insight and confirmation into your belief or disbelief in life outside our little blue orb.

The Drake Equation is nonsense. Not an equation.

Still no proof. Keep at it.

what would you consider proof?

GrandLunar2007

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Report this Dec. 31 2008, 11:36 am

Blankenship,

No one has claimed to have found life off the Earth, so why are you asking for proof?

Right now, life elsewhere remains a possibility.
The possibility is a strong one, based on what we know of life on Earth.

But right now, our detection methods aren't meant for finding it. We're just now finding out the atmospheric composition of other planets.

You're getting all excited over nothing.

BTW, the Drake Equation is NOT nonsense.

blankenship

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Report this Jan. 01 2009, 4:14 pm

Quote (GrandLunar2007 @ Dec. 31 2008, 11:36 am)
Blankenship,

No one has claimed to have found life off the Earth, so why are you asking for proof?

Right now, life elsewhere remains a possibility.
The possibility is a strong one, based on what we know of life on Earth.

But right now, our detection methods aren't meant for finding it. We're just now finding out the atmospheric composition of other planets.

You're getting all excited over nothing.

BTW, the Drake Equation is NOT nonsense.

The Drake "Equation".

Make seven guesses, unknown quantities.

Bigfoot.

blankenship

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Report this Jan. 01 2009, 4:19 pm

Quote (lanceromega @ Dec. 29 2008, 10:59 am)
Quote (blankenship @ Dec. 25 2008, 10:46 pm)
Quote (Darkpaths @ Dec. 25 2008, 12:44 am)
There is, as of yet, no known conclusive proof of the existence of life, as humans define it, beyond the confines of Earth. Although, it would be just as easy for one to say, "disprove it", on the matter of extra-terrestrial life. In that manner, it is similar to the debate on religion and faith. There is no one true definitive answer due to the lack of measurable evidence at this time.

The Drake equation may offer some insight and confirmation into your belief or disbelief in life outside our little blue orb.

The Drake Equation is nonsense. Not an equation.

Still no proof. Keep at it.

what would you consider proof?

Show me your spaceship.

Admiral_JTK

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Report this Jan. 01 2009, 4:46 pm

Quote (blankenship @ Dec. 19 2008, 8:31 pm)
So, where's the proof?

This is 101% troll bait.
Nothing better to do for the new year?

Go talk to god. There's no proof of that either but I'm sure you have no problem believing there is one. There's a far greater probability that life exists elsewhere in the universe than the probability that there is a supernatural sky fairy of some sort.

Vice_Adm_Baxter

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Report this Jan. 01 2009, 5:02 pm

Quote (blankenship @ Dec. 26 2008, 6:46 pm)
The Drake Equation is nonsense. Not an equation.

Prove that it is not an equation.

Well it is according to cosmologists around the world.

clearly you have no grasp of reality. The preliminary evidence has already been discovered on Mars.

GrandLunar2007

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Report this Jan. 02 2009, 7:34 am

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The Drake "Equation".

Make seven guesses, unknown quantities.


They're called "variables".

They're in many equations in mathmatics.

In any case, I don't know why you're getting so worked up over this issue.

No one has claimed to have found proof of life elsewhere. So, asking for proof is meaningless.

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