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CaptJaimieKirk

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Report this Dec. 09 2008, 1:43 pm

Kirkfan has a point, a valid point.  You are to serious about your rping Shuttle way to serious.  You should lighten up and realize that non-canon elements may add to the operation of a site, or perhaps make establishing positions for characters easier. When you get to a certain number of players on an RP site, it can become difficult to promote, or even fit in a member who has put in an application to a site that may have a full crew compliment.  I would much rather promote an officer using a non-canon ranking system to make room for new players, rather than deny acceptance or force someone to take a really low rank because I'm to archaic and have my head shoved so deep into canon that I think it's the only way to play a Trek RPG.  Don't get me wrong, canon is great and provides alot of interesting stuff, but without non-canon alot of storylines wouldn't exist either in novel form or in the RPG'S.  But I do agree there is a point to which non-canon should give way to canon, for instance...supreme Commander wasn't ever even in TOS ranking system on either side.  So what if TNG didn't use Commodore and Fleet Admiral, I have found that by adding those ranks, it gives a little more room for higher ranking officers to be promoted.....so that officers who have been members of a site for long periods of time do not reach the top of their rank so quickly.  Do not think that your way of RPING is the only way, or the best way for everyone.

Cptkirkfan18

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Report this Dec. 09 2008, 1:53 pm

In technical terms, a Commodore is actually a Rear Admiral (Lower Half), cause the next rank is Rear Admiral (Upper) so its just another name for a Rear Admiral

CaptJaimieKirk

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Report this Dec. 09 2008, 2:00 pm

It doesnt matter, let her have it the way she wants it.  Geez

AbbyHendrix

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 9:37 am

Dude...your as bad if not worse than CKF18 at highjacking someone's thread.  If I wanted your opinion, I would have asked for it.  Ranks on my site are based on RPG experience and the age and service record of the character.  I'm not going to havea 60 year old character listed as an Ensign........that is very much unrealistic in my opinion.    Now I don't give a who darn dang about how you run your RPG, and I'm certainly not telling you how to run it, so butt out and let me run mine.

Cptkirkfan18

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 11:00 am

AbbyHendrix, very sorry for arguing on this specific thread, but the issue needs to be addressed.

First off, it is called 'make-believe' - yeah they have a 60 year old character, but there is a 'made-up' backstory to go along with it... when that 60 year old graduated from the Academy, what ships she served on.  You can only add little realism to RPG.  If it was based on realism, everyone would be joining as Cadets!  If a ship needs a Chief of Security, you can't be an Ensign for that role - someone needs to make a character that is around 27 years old with a Lieutenant rank.

Which also comes to ask - Does having a rank really matter?  I think that all that matters in a RPG is the telling of a story, a storyline for the role players to go through scenarios and events - 'missions' just like on the television show.  It is all about character development, not going by realism.  You make up ship names, you make up character names, you can make up backstories.  Who cares if the RPer writes like a first grader, aslong as it goes along with the story and everyone has fun.  On the AOL RPGs, I've seen people thrown out of storylines because they had bad grammar?  Seriously - it is just a game, you're going to throw someone out because of grammar is just un-American.  How is someone supposed to have fun?

Conclusion: It is just a role playing game, Mr. Shuttle.  There is no limitations.  If Abby wants to do it her way, she can - if she wants the Borg to be allied with Starfleet, then let it be.  Aslong as the story is good and the players have fun.

domo_arigato

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 11:28 am

:whatthe: :whatthe: :whatthe: :whatthe:

Everyone should record this post for the record b/c CptKirkfan18 has made an excellently valid point and it was written in a very mature way!!!!!!!!!!

...and no I'm not being facetious.

Praetor_Tomalak

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 11:30 am

Quote (AbbyHendrix @ Dec. 07 2008, 12:47 am)
I have my reasons for setting my rank pips the way I do, who do you think you are to critize it?

Anyone has a right to criticize (note the additional letters) someone else, particularly when they break away from established canon. That's just wrong.

CaptJaimieKirk

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 11:43 am

Very well said...very well said. ?I couldn't agree more. ? I have one of the more active sites advertised on this board, and it's not because I'm strict into canon, or that I scrutinize every little detail to make sure it's as close to canon and reality as I can get it. ?It's active because the players are having fun....and are being allowed to be creative with what they do. ?Yes, most of my senior staff holds the rank of Lieutenant Commander or better, but that's mainly because of promotions. My character holds the rank of Captain and I don't use strictly canon, I have alot of fanon and novanon mixed in with the storyline. ?You; Shuttle, are not the only one around here that know's how to run a successful simm..no matter what you may think. ?The Enterprise H, while having switched boards, has been a running storyline for the past four years. ? ?Now, with that said, let me move on to your little speach about being a message board member. ?THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE SOMEONE ELSE'S SITE. ?People come on here to advertise and to recruit for their game so people can have fun, not seek opinions. ?If you want to be anal retentive about how your operate your RPG, then by all means go for it...I hope you have fun. ?But don't go anal retentive on how other people run their sites, it's really none of your business.
It's people that think they have the RIGHT to criticize other people that make these boards a place to stay away from if you want to find a good crew......you don't have the right to critize her....leave her alone. ¿ It's not wrong for someone to not share the same beliefs as you when it comes to how to run an RPG

CaptJaimieKirk

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 12:04 pm

Not my advertisement..and I'm sorry for my outburst...I have a bit of a temper sometimes and it comes through on occassion.

domo_arigato

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 1:05 pm

SUCCESS! Now to see if I can work my magic on the lawmakers.... :laugh:

This_Is_Not_A_Test

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 1:38 pm

Quote (Shuttle @ Dec. 11 2008, 11:56 am)
Your outburst changes nothing. This is a messageboard, not an RPG site, and you can't tell others how they should post here and if you didn't want opinions this was the wrong place to advertise.

Shuttle, with all due respect, advertisements are not requests for assistance in game design. If people want help they can ask for it. But to assume that because someone is recruiting for a game means they want anyone's opinion on where they may have gone wrong (in your opinion) is unwarranted.

Not to say you're not welcome to your opinions, just that advertisements are not requests for input. They're requests for interested players.

Cptkirkfan18

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Report this Dec. 11 2008, 2:33 pm

Quote
Your outburst changes nothing. This is a messageboard, not an RPG site, and you can't tell others how they should post here and if you didn't want opinions this was the wrong place to advertise.


You can't tell others how they should run their RPG.  If everyone followed canon strictly, then RPG would be plain boring.. bending canon a little bit, adding the 'Supreme Commander' rank or having the Borg allied with the Federation brings out a variety.

That said: Just because Abby's RPG doesn't fit your criteria, you just don't join - don't post on here telling her how she should run it.  Come on, Shuttle.. You wouldn't like opening an RPG, advertising it on a messageboard and someone telling you how you should run things, that you should add Marines or you should have Captain Kirk alive and all this BS.  Abbys RPG isn't the only one.. theres the USS Adams-A, theres the USS Enterprise-H, USS ShadowHawk - they're all different and I bet some of them have the 5 star pip Admiral and some don't.

Creativity is the key for a successful RPG - not following canon.  Once again, look at all the videos game that are made, they follow canon to an extend and add their own stuff like in Klingon Academy they have a weapon called The Radiation Canon or something to that affect, doesn't follow canon, made-up by the developers- but in the end no one is complaining because its "FUN"

CaptJaimieKirk

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Report this Dec. 12 2008, 9:51 pm

Let's let it drop guys...okay? We've all said our apologies and we need to move on now.

JHauck

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Report this Jul. 24 2010, 7:26 pm

why not be a freighter captain instead of an admiral after the thrull invasion? most of the fleet is badly kicked-around and in the process of being selectively rebuilt.

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