Star Trek

Often statistical analysis points out a fact or two. ?First, Galaxies have a maximum size. ?At the center of every Galaxy is a massive black hole. ?They are the most massive black holes that exist in the known Universe.

Our Local Black Hole

The problem is that Galaxies only get so big, and after a few 100,000 Light Years across, they don't get any bigger. ?They can be smaller, and the gravity of a group effect the whole population of Galaxies in a given area. ?But, there isn't a group of Galaxies orbiting a Central super-massive, or ultra-massive black hole.

UCLA Reference to Galaxy Sizes

Yes, I am calling a world of scientists wrong about the Universe being gobbled up by a super massive black hole, due to the observable. ?The size limit of Galaxies points to a size limit for a black hole. ?Now, if there were a size limit for a black hole and gravity had a velocity as a field much like light speed. ?If the speed of gravity is several times higher than the speed of light, then the Gravity that would allow for Galaxy formation and black holes would exist. ?But, if Gravity actually did have a velocity, it would also mean that Black Holes could only get so big.

Movement of stars in Galaxy

As you can see the stars at the center of the galaxy are moving faster than the ones at the rim. ?If you shut off the gravity what should it look like? ?A ring or a halo Galaxy.

Ring Galaxy

Another Ring

As Gravity fails to escape

Most Collision models do not result in a Ring, even though at this point in time Scientists are pointing to collision as the cause. ?N Body Physics and Collision Simulations only result in spins and or spin stops, pinwheels bars and distribution of stars.

Long list of YouTube Galaxy Collision Simulations

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They can have diameters of more than 6 million light years (compare to about 100 thousand light years for the Milky Way). A good example is the central galaxy in the cluster Abell 2029.

If you get this basic bit of info wrong, which took me less than a minute to look up online, then why should you be believed over scientists for whom astronomy is their profession?

Tell me, are you a professional astronomer? An amatuer at least?
Do you have any formal scientific training in the field of astronomy?
Why should you be believed over those that do?

Abel 2029

Is a Large Cluster of Galaxies, not just one. Basically, there isn't anything wrong with my theory. You are just not considering the simple fact that Black Holes, can orbit black holes, and the gravity of the local area is or can be greatly influenced by that.

It is true that just like these stars orbit the black hole at the center of our galaxy, black holes can orbit black holes in the same kind of orbital matrix resulting in a super massive galaxy.

Center of Milkyway Animation

The result of black holes orbiting in the same fashion or pattern results in a much more massive galactic core and a much larger galaxy.

The Average Size predicts more than the anomoly of the one supermassive galaxy within a group. The average size depicts the average size of black holes, and the super massive only a rarified situation of many black holes present near the center of the galaxy. Maximum Size, and the Existance of Halo Galaxies, and the rim of those halo/ring galaxies says more to the effect of gravity having a true escape velocity, and black holes that become neutral to the laws of physics stepping outside of the dimensions of this universe to exist in a state similar or less than a neutrino. A single black hole, can be picked up and moved after it has reached a scale that is more massive than at the core of the majority of galaxies. Once, gravity cannot escape, you can just pick it up safely.

Look at the ring Galaxy:
Ring Galaxy

Blue stars are more hot and massive. They have a short life span. ¿How do you wind up with a bunch of new stars on the outer rim of a galaxy? If the velocity of stars in orbit around the black hole in the center of our galaxy were subject to a sudden shut off of the black hole's gravity, they would race out into the galactic disk of stars. The stars closer to the center would race outwards toward the slower moving stars. Collision is unavoidable. Then you wind up with a bunch of new hot blue stars.

You just are not thinking that the Galactic Cluster Abel 2029, would have an orbital matrix like we see of stars at the center of our galaxy, except consistant of black holes.

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Is a Large Cluster of Galaxies, not just one.

Did you bother to read the sentence?

It referred to the central galaxy of the cluster, not the cluster as a whole.

You also didn't bother to answer any of my questions.

Wow LtElger at it again..

First let get a few things straight, no one is sure what is the speed of gravity.

It is assume from Special Relativity that Gravity travel at the speed of light or at least that its effects do. There have been a number of experiments based on observation of stellar object but these are flaw since any information that we can delve from this these experiments are limited by the speed of light..

At best Quantum field theory show that gravity should be no slower than a photon so as long as that are a causal connection between two object they can be connected via gravity. Since the whole visible universe is causal connected, in effect all object are in effect attracted to each other.

there are many galaxies llarger than 100,000 lys, Our neighbor Andromeda is over 200,000 lys across.

While CD Galaxies have diameters of over 6 million light years.

In theory there should be no limit to the size of galaxies.

The same would be for blackholes. We generally measure a size of blackhole by it horizon, in effect this allow a blackhole to have no upper limit, the only limiting factor is the rate matter can fall into this area, super large blackhole generally will blow way incoming matter as a traffic jam form, this stops the flow of matter into a black hole, but once the accertation disk is consume, more matter can fall into the hole.

In effect our visible universe can be consider a blackhole. and it is also still growing.