can we put aids in killer bees

Admiral_JTK

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Report this Sep. 15 2008, 9:41 pm

OK. What the f**k is wrong with you?

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Report this Sep. 15 2008, 9:45 pm

...and when the dogs bark they shoot bees with AIDS out of their mouths?

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Report this Sep. 16 2008, 3:58 am

GHOSTREK must've had a little too much LDS back in the day ;)

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Report this Sep. 16 2008, 9:42 am

AIDS requires human cells to live, that's why mosquitos can't transmit AIDS.

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Report this Sep. 29 2008, 11:35 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ Sep. 28 2008, 5:28 pm)
Quote (MrMordenandAssociates @ Sep. 16 2008, 9:42 am)
AIDS requires human cells to live, that's why mosquitos can't transmit AIDS.

There's human cells in the blood.

I have yet to hear a good arguement as to why mosquitos or even flies can't transmit HIV. They transmit other viruses.

they need live human cells

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Report this Sep. 30 2008, 12:24 pm

Bee AIDS. Okey-dokey... :eyesroll:

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Report this Oct. 22 2008, 9:52 pm

I've heard the same, but what if a mosquito had just fed on someone who has aids.  Then it lands on your arm by an open cut,  you see it, then smash it, driving the aids contaminated  blood into your open wound.

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Report this Oct. 23 2008, 10:25 pm

thats the most ridiculous thing ive heard for a while

why on earth would you want to do that

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Report this Oct. 24 2008, 8:53 am

Oh man why do we keep bumping this trash?

*edit* shyte I did it too

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Report this Oct. 25 2008, 8:56 pm

Quote (MrMordenandAssociates @ Sep. 16 2008, 10:42 pm)
AIDS requires human cells to live, that's why mosquitos can't transmit AIDS.

Uh....no

The HIV and AIDS viruses have also been found in other primates.

It doesn't need "human cells".

There's also feline HIV.

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Report this Oct. 25 2008, 10:41 pm

Quote (Angel_of_Shadows @ Oct. 25 2008, 8:56 pm)
Quote (MrMordenandAssociates @ Sep. 16 2008, 10:42 pm)
AIDS requires human cells to live, that's why mosquitos can't transmit AIDS.

Uh....no

The HIV and AIDS viruses have also been found in other primates.

It doesn't need "human cells".

There's also feline HIV.

Nope.

HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus)

You can't get feline AIDS (FIV) from a cat.
"FIV has also been found in milk and can be transmitted from mother to kitten. Transmission among household cats through normal contact is thought to be unlikely. Nor can the disease be transmitted to humans."
http://www.petplace.com/cats....e1.aspx

You are more likely to get simian AIDS (SIV) from an ape because we are more closely related, but it is not the same virus.

The mosquito can't catch HIV from biting a human.

The viral particles might look similar, and they might cause the same symptoms in their hosts because of the similar DNA/RNA, but they are not the same 'species'. The AIDS viruses are mostly species specific.

HIV requires more human cells to infect and reproduce.
http://www.aidsinfo.nih.gov/contentfiles/HIVLifeCycle_FS_en.pdf

The key is in stage 6:
Budding: The newly assembled virus pushes out ("buds") from the host cell. During budding, the new virus steals part of the cell's outer envelope. This envelope, which acts as a covering, is studded with protein/sugar combinations called HIV glycoproteins. These HIV glycoproteins are necessary for the virus to bind CD4 and co- receptors. The new copies of HIV can now move on to infect other cells.

i.e. it needs the cell markers from the previous host cell to allow it to bind with its next victim

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Report this Oct. 25 2008, 10:45 pm

Quote (norwegian @ Oct. 22 2008, 9:52 pm)
I've heard the same, but what if a mosquito had just fed on someone who has aids. ¿Then it lands on your arm by an open cut, ¿you see it, then smash it, driving the aids contaminated ¿blood into your open wound.

If the mosquito just fed, it's time to lay some eggs. There no need for it to land on another human until much later. By then the human blood cells containing HIV have been digested, or the HIV has run out of host cells. There's no HIV left to spread to the next victim.

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Report this Oct. 26 2008, 8:47 am

That's assuming the bug had fully fed.  I've killed many mosquitos that were trying to land on me that left a bloody smear after I wacked them.

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Report this Nov. 04 2008, 8:20 am

Quote (GHOSTREK @ Sep. 14 2008, 10:49 pm)
Quote (Admiral_JTK @ Sep. 14 2008, 10:41 pm)
OK. What the f**k is wrong with you?

thay only idea kill off bug ¿that can kill us humans

i guse idea dose have it draw backs

like if  the killer bees transmitted it to honey bees

not to mention why would you actually want to kill off all bees any way

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