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> id="QUOTE">The reason the list isn't included is because it's too frapping long. :) It's simply not practical to list all the books going back to 1981, and a list that long is useless from a marketing perspective, because the sheer volume of titles is overwhelming.


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Report this May. 01 2008, 8:23 pm

Quote (Harbinger1 @ April 11 2008, 4:25 pm)
Based on Krad's recommendation, I picked up the Crucible trilogy...excellent choice. ¿80 pages into the McCoy book and I have difficulty putting it down. ¿Thanks, Krad!

I'm delighted to hear that!

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Report this May. 02 2008, 5:53 am

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Quote (Fred2700 @ April 14 2008, 7:40 am)
Finally, if you have ever noticed, the books are not longer numbered. This makes it really confusing when it comes to a time line. To add to the chaos, there is no longer a list of titles published. The publisher is saving on the 6-10 pages that are needed for these lists. In fact, readers are lucky to get a chapter preview of an upcoming novel. The result of this new action is that many people don't know where to start and what to look for if they failed to keep abreast of the situation.

So my advice is to figure out which series you want to read, followed by what characters you like and then see if the book is in print.

I've been using those pages for the past couple of years! They helped alot when I had no web access to check new releases etc, I think they should be kept.

I completely agree, I really miss those lists of all the different books out there! They used to help me figure out where I wanted to look next, and helped me watch for titles I may have not heard of otherwise. Those pages should be kept for a marketing tool, if nothing else. There are still alot of people who like to do things the old-fashioned way, and the list at the start of every book, increases the visibility of all their titles!

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Report this May. 02 2008, 12:38 pm

The reason the list isn't included is because it's too frapping long. :) It's simply not practical to list all the books going back to 1981, and a list that long is useless from a marketing perspective, because the sheer volume of titles is overwhelming.


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Finally, if you have ever noticed, the books are not longer numbered. This makes it really confusing when it comes to a time line.


I don't see why, as the numbering never had anything to do with "a time line" whatsoever, as there was no relationship, none, between the book numbers and the order in which the books took place. Plus, with increasing numbers of series, the numbering became utterly pointless.

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Report this May. 04 2008, 3:44 pm

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Report this May. 04 2008, 4:19 pm

Quote (krad @ Mar. 16 2008, 4:41 pm)
Finally, I strongly recommend any and all of the recent spate of anniversary anthologies published for the 10th anniversary of DS9 (2003) and Voyager (2005), the 40th anniversary of TOS (2006), and the 20th anniversary of TNG (2007):
    DS9: Prophecy and Change
    VOY: Distant Shores
    TOS: Constellations
    TNG: The Sky's the Limit

I followed your advice and bought all four of these today.

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Report this May. 05 2008, 12:04 am

Quote (Fred2700 @ May 03 2008, 6:44 pm)
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Go to any bookstore and ask the seller about Star Trek books and you'll get a shrug of the shoulders. Even the most experienced bookseller is hard pressed to actually say what Star Trek book is up to date or the most recently printed. This does not happen with the Star War series, which are numbered.

As for the time line, there is always an introduction in the prologue as to when the story takes place within the TNG timeline. This is not an issue. Here we are concerned about what number a book has in the series.

Earlier, the publisher would introduction the hardback as the first or fifth within the series. The reader could then place the book in the series or look at the list. A paperback would get a number. Now, this isn't done nor was it done for books like Death in Winter or Kahless. The fans have to straighten out this chaos, and I really don't have time for it, as much as I love Trek. Either print up a reading list once a year or loose your customer base to poor marketing.

Just my two cents. :laugh:

There is nothing in the above-quoted post that is accurate in any way, shape, or form. For starters, the Star Wars novels are not numbered, either. Secondly, your hypothetical regarding hardcovers and paperbacks isn't even written in grammatical English, but if I'm interpreting it right, it's wrong.

You can agree to disagree, but I'm coming out and saying: you're wrong.

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Report this May. 12 2008, 2:30 pm

nevermind :logical:

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Report this May. 15 2008, 9:58 am

Quote (krad @ May 05 2008, 7:04 am)
Quote (Fred2700 @ May 03 2008, 6:44 pm)
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Go to any bookstore and ask the seller about Star Trek books and you'll get a shrug of the shoulders. Even the most experienced bookseller is hard pressed to actually say what Star Trek book is up to date or the most recently printed. This does not happen with the Star War series, which are numbered.

As for the time line, there is always an introduction in the prologue as to when the story takes place within the TNG timeline. This is not an issue. Here we are concerned about what number a book has in the series.

Earlier, the publisher would introduction the hardback as the first or fifth within the series. The reader could then place the book in the series or look at the list. A paperback would get a number. Now, this isn't done nor was it done for books like Death in Winter or Kahless. The fans have to straighten out this chaos, and I really don't have time for it, as much as I love Trek. Either print up a reading list once a year or loose your customer base to poor marketing.

Just my two cents. :laugh:

There is nothing in the above-quoted post that is accurate in any way, shape, or form. For starters, the Star Wars novels are not numbered, either. Secondly, your hypothetical regarding hardcovers and paperbacks isn't even written in grammatical English, but if I'm interpreting it right, it's wrong.

You can agree to disagree, but I'm coming out and saying: you're wrong.

Star Trek Books on Amazon


Star Wars Hard back Book @ Amazon.com


According to the above sources, paperbacks and hardbacks are numbered if they are part of a series. The numbering may be inconsistant, but there is numbering.

As for my grammar, was it not Prime Minister Golda Meir who told her cabinet that men should have a curfew, so the number of rapes againts women and girls would go down in Israel. Her mostly male cabinet disagreed. One of her ministers stated that they would have to agree to disagree on the issue, because he didn't want to see men's freedom curtailed even though it was the men who were being abusive.

To agree to disagree has nothing to do with right or wrong, but with understanding the other's person argument i.e. diplomacy. Therefore, there is nothing wrong grammatically with the statement when taken into its proper context.

I do believe an apology is at hand. My arguments are supported.

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Report this May. 22 2008, 8:50 pm

Quote (DeltaQuadrantCrew @ May 04 2008, 8:19 pm)
Quote (krad @ Mar. 16 2008, 4:41 pm)
Finally, I strongly recommend any and all of the recent spate of anniversary anthologies published for the 10th anniversary of DS9 (2003) and Voyager (2005), the 40th anniversary of TOS (2006), and the 20th anniversary of TNG (2007):
    DS9: Prophecy and Change
    VOY: Distant Shores
    TOS: Constellations
    TNG: The Sky's the Limit

I followed your advice and bought all four of these today.

Distant Shores was incredible, while The Sky's the Limit is a very worthwhile read as well.

I haven't read the other two... Constellations is sitting on my bookshelf though.

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Report this May. 23 2008, 11:13 am

Well, for Voyager books, Homecoming and Farther Shore are VERY good as a continuation of the story from when they arrived home. Lots of good stuff in there for the true Voyager fan (like Harry FINALLY getting promoted).

Also, the ones listed previously are good reads:
Cohesion, Fusion, and Evolution

As well as the previously mentioned Distant Shores, which is a collection of short stories, perfect for those times when you don't have time for a novel, but want a fix. :)

Several of the other series, post-Nemesis, include Voyager characters, like the aforementioned Titan series as well as the TNG books Death in Winter, Resistance, Q & A, and Before Dishonor.

Happy reading!

Chris

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Report this May. 23 2008, 11:37 am

Where are good websites to buy books for cheap and free shipping?

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Report this May. 23 2008, 4:52 pm

Quote (Fred2700 @ May 15 2008, 9:58 am)
Quote (krad @ May 05 2008, 7:04 am)
Quote (Fred2700 @ May 03 2008, 6:44 pm)
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Go to any bookstore and ask the seller about Star Trek books and you'll get a shrug of the shoulders. Even the most experienced bookseller is hard pressed to actually say what Star Trek book is up to date or the most recently printed. This does not happen with the Star War series, which are numbered.

As for the time line, there is always an introduction in the prologue as to when the story takes place within the TNG timeline. This is not an issue. Here we are concerned about what number a book has in the series.

Earlier, the publisher would introduction the hardback as the first or fifth within the series. The reader could then place the book in the series or look at the list. A paperback would get a number. Now, this isn't done nor was it done for books like Death in Winter or Kahless. The fans have to straighten out this chaos, and I really don't have time for it, as much as I love Trek. Either print up a reading list once a year or loose your customer base to poor marketing.

Just my two cents. :laugh:

There is nothing in the above-quoted post that is accurate in any way, shape, or form. For starters, the Star Wars novels are not numbered, either. Secondly, your hypothetical regarding hardcovers and paperbacks isn't even written in grammatical English, but if I'm interpreting it right, it's wrong.

You can agree to disagree, but I'm coming out and saying: you're wrong.

Star Trek Books on Amazon


Star Wars Hard back Book @ Amazon.com


According to the above sources, paperbacks and hardbacks are numbered if they are part of a series. The numbering may be inconsistant, but there is numbering.

As for my grammar, was it not Prime Minister Golda Meir who told her cabinet that men should have a curfew, so the number of rapes againts women and girls would go down in Israel. Her mostly male cabinet disagreed. One of her ministers stated that they would have to agree to disagree on the issue, because he didn't want to see men's freedom curtailed even though it was the men who were being abusive.

To agree to disagree has nothing to do with right or wrong, but with understanding the other's person argument i.e. diplomacy. Therefore, there is nothing wrong grammatically with the statement when taken into its proper context.

I do believe an apology is at hand. My arguments are supported.

I don't like to chime in unnecessarily, but that Star Wars book you linked to is just the ninth in a mini-series. There's no overall numbering system; they base it on a timeline that is printed in the front of every book, instead.

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