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Remake TREK... what will the books do?

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Captain_Storma

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Report this Jan. 18 2008, 6:26 pm

Hey people

With the advent of the teaser for the new film, it is obvious that Abrams' Trek won't be original TREK but rather a remake.

My question is, will the books also completely abandon the known, much beloved timeline, once the movie is out? Or will they continue the original STAR TREK universe?

I know exactly how Paramount sucks for money. I fear that what is left from the real TREK universe might get lost, with the release of the movie.

Thanks for your answers in advance.

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Report this Jan. 18 2008, 10:09 pm

I guess they'll do books on both 'verses as long as they make money.

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Report this Jan. 18 2008, 10:45 pm

Quote (Captain_Storma @ Jan. 18 2008, 8:26 pm)
With the advent of the teaser for the new film, it is obvious that Abrams' Trek won't be original TREK but rather a remake.

My question is, will the books also completely abandon the known, much beloved timeline, once the movie is out? Or will they continue the original STAR TREK universe?


The teaser shows that the "E"'s getting an apparent facelift of sorts, but that's a concession to modern production values for a big-budget motion picture. Everything Abrams and the writers have said is that the film itself is not a remake/reboot, but instead meant to work with the known "canon."

My take on it is something akin to what I read someone else post on another board: Abrams is probably taking a Superman Returns approach to the new film...making it consistent at least in broad strokes with what's come before, and maybe even making it a point to tie into certain well-known/watershed events/etc. from the exisiting continuity, all while making appropriate concessions for a modern audience.

Other than updated sets and such, I think the biggest thing purists are going to fret over is how much it won't dovetail with "fan lore."

As for what the books do, the answer will be the same as it's always been: They'll do whatever the studio says they can do.

(How's that for vague? :D)

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Report this Jan. 18 2008, 10:59 pm

Quote (Captain_Storma @ Jan. 18 2008, 3:26 pm)
Hey people

With the advent of the teaser for the new film, it is obvious that Abrams' Trek won't be original TREK but rather a remake.

My question is, will the books also completely abandon the known, much beloved timeline, once the movie is out? Or will they continue the original STAR TREK universe?

I know exactly how Paramount sucks for money. I fear that what is left from the real TREK universe might get lost, with the release of the movie.

Thanks for your answers in advance.

No the books will cover everything. as they always do. there will be the NEW TREK and the TREK we love.

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Report this Jan. 19 2008, 1:43 am

Another question is who's going to be on the cover of any new TOS books?  Will it be the original TOS or the remake cast?  I read an FAQ on an official Trek authors page or something like that and the answer to that question is apparently still up in the air.

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Report this Jan. 19 2008, 2:01 am

Is the Abrams movie an actual reboot of everything? I thought it was a reimagining of the Original Star Trek. A sort of companion piece to the rest of Star Trek. Much like the Ultimate Spider-Man comic is to the Amazing Spider-Man comic. But I didn't know it was actually gonna change everything. That kinda sucks...

-Nate-

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Report this Jan. 19 2008, 4:34 am

Quote (EmeraldWarrior @ Jan. 19 2008, 2:01 am)
Is the Abrams movie an actual reboot of everything?

No official statement has been released on the 'canon vs. reboot' issue, so we don't really know.

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Report this Jan. 19 2008, 4:46 am

Quote (Vice_Adm_Baxter @ Jan. 18 2008, 3:59 pm)
Quote (Captain_Storma @ Jan. 18 2008, 3:26 pm)
Hey people

With the advent of the teaser for the new film, it is obvious that Abrams' Trek won't be original TREK but rather a remake.

My question is, will the books also completely abandon the known, much beloved timeline, once the movie is out? Or will they continue the original STAR TREK universe?

I know exactly how Paramount sucks for money. I fear that what is left from the real TREK universe might get lost, with the release of the movie.

Thanks for your answers in advance.

No the books will cover everything. as they always do. there will be the NEW TREK and the TREK we love.

since trekwriter is dayton ward, I think i follow what he says on this issue.

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Report this Jan. 28 2008, 5:18 pm

It IS a reboot... check this one out:

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Dr. Image: To all Trek Purists out there, understand this: What we are getting with this movie is obviously meant to REPLACE the ¿66-'68 version of Trek, including the Cage and WNMHGB, in style and substance. In other words, IT NEVER HAPPENED THAT WAY- anymore, that is. And unlike with bumpy-headed Klingons, where there was an ATTEMPT to explain the condition in ENT, it ain't gonna happen here. What we have seen very obviously bridges the gap from ENT to TMP in ship design, production design, etc. and NOT from the 60's aesthetic! Why they won't call it a re-imagining or rebooting of the show is beyond me, because the evidence shows otherwise. My guess is that this approach was decided on by the the studio. That's FINE with me, but in the words of James Cawley, it's not what I would have done. So, JJ, Roberto, am I not correct in this conclusion?

Roberto Orci: The approach was NOT decided by the studio. It was APPROVED by the studio when we pitched them our collective vision of Trek. We have been careful not to put too much stock in terms like re-boot or re-imagining because these terms do not sufficiently describe, in my opinion, the way in which Star Trek (Zero) will fit into the continuum.

Brian: I'm not sure if the (zero) really means anything, but I'm really hoping that this isnt going to be the title. I would be fine with not going Star Trek XI, even if it's just called Star Trek (no bloody numbers or colon), I feel that the Zero would give it too much of the "Star Wars" feel when they did the prequels.

Roberto Orci: Agreed. As we've said before, it will simply be Star Trek. We've used the term Star Trek Zero a few times to remind new audiences who have felt that Trek has passed them by that they can tune in and be introduced to the world anew.



Rusty McCoy: Now that you have finished filming on the bridge set, what are the plans for them? Is Paramount planning on storing them for sequels or will they get tossed in file 13(the dumpster)? And again thanks for the interaction - its been great.

Roberto Orci: The bridge will be boxed or crated, but not destroyed... just in case we need it...

RoobyDoo: Which of the characters was most difficult to write?

Roberto Orci: The two characters that were the most difficult to write were the villain and Kirk himself. Kirk in particular can de deceptive because you can fall into the trap of making him 2 dimensional because you think you know him so well or because you think his behavior in any given situation is a foregone conclusion - rather than treating him as a true character who has free will and has to make decisions. Easy to get lazy when writing known characters.

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Report this Feb. 01 2008, 12:16 pm

Well Nemesis decided to ignore canon, and the authors created the "A Time To.." series to fix that.

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Report this Feb. 01 2008, 12:57 pm

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Report this Feb. 02 2008, 6:19 pm

Quote (NuclearWessels @ Feb. 01 2008, 9:16 pm)
Well Nemesis decided to ignore canon, and the authors created the "A Time To.." series to fix that.

And how did it ignore canon?  :eyesroll:

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Report this Feb. 02 2008, 7:14 pm

Quote (Captain_Storma @ Feb. 02 2008, 10:19 pm)
Quote (NuclearWessels @ Feb. 01 2008, 9:16 pm)
Well Nemesis decided to ignore canon, and the authors created the "A Time To.." series to fix that.

And how did it ignore canon?  :eyesroll:

I don't think they so much "ignored" canon, rather the movie took place a few years ahead, and they didn't explain what happened in between.
Thankfully, that's what the A Time to... series does.

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Report this Feb. 03 2008, 2:12 am

Quote (Captain_Storma @ Feb. 02 2008, 4:19 pm)
Quote (NuclearWessels @ Feb. 01 2008, 9:16 pm)
Well Nemesis decided to ignore canon, and the authors created the "A Time To.." series to fix that.

And how did it ignore canon?  :eyesroll:

-wesley crusher and worf back in starfleet
-data's emotion chip

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Report this Feb. 04 2008, 4:11 am

Quote (NuclearWessels @ Feb. 03 2008, 2:12 am)
Quote (Captain_Storma @ Feb. 02 2008, 4:19 pm)
Quote (NuclearWessels @ Feb. 01 2008, 9:16 pm)
Well Nemesis decided to ignore canon, and the authors created the "A Time To.." series to fix that.

And how did it ignore canon?  :eyesroll:

-wesley crusher and worf back in starfleet
-data's emotion chip

I wouldn't call that *ignoring* canon.  It's bending it at the very most.  Remember, a bit of time passed between 'Insurrection' and 'Nemesis' and I don't think it's that wildly improbable for Worf or even Wesley (who may have returned to Starfleet to defend his friends during the Dominion War) to return.  As far as Data's emotion chip goes, in 'First Contact' it was established that he had the ability to turn it off and on, so it's implied that he simply had it off for all of 'Nemesis'.

If suddenly Tasha Yar was back on the bridge, I'd consider that ignoring canon.  If Picard was suddenly commanding the Enterprise D again, I'd consider that ignoring canon.  If Data had actually stated that he had never encountered another Soong-type android before, that would be ignoring canon.

The problem with 'Nemesis' had nothing to do with canon errors.  It had to do with the fact that it's awful.

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