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Why is Picard treated so bad..

DammitJim6200

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Report this Jan. 04 2008, 10:06 am

Let's face it..Maybe it's just me but if any of you read the William Shatner Star Trek novels and listen to the audio tapes, you'll find Picard is portrayed as a much much lesser being than Kirk, I mean for example
In "The Return" Kirk wants to KILL Picard, He Knokes Picard out so HE can save the day
In "Avenger" Picard gets stricken with a disease and put in quarentine while Kirk does all the work.
in other books Picard gets swallowed by a huge fish, Picard gets SLAP..BY GEORDI La FORGE !!
Is it me or does Bill Shatner subconsciously hates Captain Picard..Any opinions ? :logical:

Captain_Kayzek_Juno_TGCO

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Report this Jan. 04 2008, 10:49 am

Shatner hates anyone who steals his glory...Why do you think he and Leonard Nimoy don't get along?

Trekwolf164

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Report this Jan. 04 2008, 11:11 am

Quote (Captain_Kayzek_Juno_TGCO @ Jan. 04 2008, 10:49 am)
Shatner hates anyone who steals his glory...Why do you think he and Leonard Nimoy don't get along?

Not according to Nimoy he describes Bill as a friend.

And Bill says the same of Leonard.
Bill on Trek XI

Josh_Lyman

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Report this Jan. 04 2008, 12:59 pm

I imagine that it is because the Reeves', who are the real authors of the books, consider Picard a secondary character.

Captain_Storma

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Report this Jan. 06 2008, 9:39 am

Quote (Josh_Lyman @ Jan. 04 2008, 9:59 pm)
I imagine that it is because the Reeves', who are the real authors of the books, consider Picard a secondary character.

Basically because the Shatner books are "self-glorification".

He should already get a life and stop whining about not being in the new movie...  :p

Trekwolf164

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Report this Jan. 06 2008, 9:46 am

Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

Captain_Storma

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Report this Jan. 06 2008, 10:51 am

Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 06 2008, 6:46 pm)
Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

So Kirk is God, and needs no help whatsoever... ;)

Trekwolf164

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Report this Jan. 06 2008, 10:53 am

Quote (Captain_Storma @ Jan. 06 2008, 10:51 am)
Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 06 2008, 6:46 pm)
Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

So Kirk is God, and needs no help whatsoever... ;)

A captain needs a crew. Picard needs the wheelchair from X-Men ;)

DammitJim6200

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Report this Jan. 06 2008, 7:19 pm

Quote (Captain_Storma @ Jan. 05 2008, 11:51 am)
Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 06 2008, 6:46 pm)
Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

So Kirk is God, and needs no help whatsoever... ;)

Wrong !  Kirk is no God without Spock Kirk was just a self-glorified sex hound. ;)

DammitJim6200

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Report this Jan. 06 2008, 7:21 pm

Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 05 2008, 10:46 am)
Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

He didn't need help when he defeated the Borg In "First Contact " now did he ? :eyesroll:

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Report this Jan. 06 2008, 8:10 pm

He wannts to be THE ONE

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Report this Jan. 06 2008, 8:12 pm

Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 06 2008, 7:21 pm)
Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 05 2008, 10:46 am)
Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

He didn't need help when he defeated the Borg In "First Contact " now did he ? :eyesroll:

And with a little help from Mr. Data.

Trekwolf164

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Report this Jan. 07 2008, 8:29 am

Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 06 2008, 7:21 pm)
Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 05 2008, 10:46 am)
Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

He didn't need help when he defeated the Borg In "First Contact " now did he ? :eyesroll:

He botched that .According to the Enterprise episode "Regeneration" He left Borg drones in Earth's past .
So he is inept . :laugh:

DammitJim6200

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Report this Jan. 07 2008, 9:02 am

Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 06 2008, 9:29 am)
Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 06 2008, 7:21 pm)
Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 05 2008, 10:46 am)
Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

He didn't need help when he defeated the Borg In "First Contact " now did he ? :eyesroll:

He botched that .According to the Enterprise episode "Regeneration" He left Borg drones in Earth's past .
So he is inept . :laugh:

What do you mean he "Botched That" He Stop the Borg the Queen didn't he ?
He stop the entire Earth from being assimulated didn't he ?
I'd say saving Billions of lives is worth more than a few half-dead Borg drones.
:logical:

Trekwolf164

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Report this Jan. 07 2008, 9:34 am

Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 07 2008, 9:02 am)
Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 06 2008, 9:29 am)
Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Jan. 06 2008, 7:21 pm)
Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Jan. 05 2008, 10:46 am)
Picard proved by his actions in "Generations" that he needed help to save the universe. Kirk needs no such assistance so Picard is the spare nacelle on the good ship Enterprise.

He didn't need help when he defeated the Borg In "First Contact " now did he ? :eyesroll:

He botched that .According to the Enterprise episode "Regeneration" He left Borg drones in Earth's past .
So he is inept . :laugh:

What do you mean he "Botched That" He Stop the Borg the Queen didn't he ?
He stop the entire Earth from being assimulated didn't he ?
I'd say saving Billions of lives is worth more than a few half-dead Borg drones.
:logical:

Picard was old and forget to scan Earth for Borg remains.
Kirk would have never committed such an error.

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