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plasma torpedo question

Korban

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Report this Nov. 04 2007, 1:52 am

Quote (USS_Lexington_NCC_56952 @ Oct. 30 2007, 1:53 pm)
Its like this. Metaphasic shielding, which was developed by the Ferengi completely put the plasma torpedo into obsolesence. That is why later the Romulans quit using them.

Do you have any facts to back this up?

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Report this Nov. 05 2007, 6:08 pm

Quote (tribblenator999 @ Oct. 31 2007, 1:35 pm)
In that episode where Kirk first encounters the romulans the enterprise should've been able to warp away from the torpedo or they could've fired photon torpedoes to destroy the plasma torpedo fired at them. When the entrprise was facing the bird of prey one on one Kirk could've unloaded torpedoes on the romulans but no he had to use phasers. Just my opinion.

Uh not quite, the plasma torpedo was outrunning them at full emergency warp speed. As for detonating it with a phaser that was at least a theoretical option.

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Report this Nov. 05 2007, 6:09 pm

Quote (USS_Lexington_NCC_56952 @ Oct. 30 2007, 1:53 pm)
Its like this. Metaphasic shielding, which was developed by the Ferengi completely put the plasma torpedo into obsolesence. That is why later the Romulans quit using them.

As to warp power. The plasma torpedo requires huge amounts of energy to fully charge it. Their warp power has to be poured into the torpedo to form the torpedo, thereby preventing it from travelling at warp.

for you second point... Only while your charging up. that wouldn prevent a strike force moving in.

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Report this Nov. 06 2007, 12:51 pm

I looked up metaphasic shielding. All it does is partly put an object in subspace, and given how a plasma torpedo traveling at high warp would need a warp shield, I would think the intense subspace distortion being thrown off by the torpedo would smash the shield on impact allowing the plasma to incinerate the target anyway.

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Report this Nov. 10 2007, 10:08 pm

Quote (tribblenator999 @ Oct. 31 2007, 10:35 am)
In that episode where Kirk first encounters the romulans the enterprise should've been able to warp away from the torpedo

The "torpedo" traveled at warp speed as well.

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When the entrprise was facing the bird of prey one on one Kirk could've unloaded torpedoes on the romulans but no he had to use phasers.


They used phasers because they couldn't get an exact weapons lock due to the Romulan cloak, and the phasers could be used in a way similar to a depth charge.

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Report this Nov. 10 2007, 10:12 pm

Quote (Venicius @ Nov. 06 2007, 9:51 am)
I looked up metaphasic shielding. All it does is partly put an object in subspace, and given how a plasma torpedo traveling at high warp would need a warp shield, I would think the intense subspace distortion being thrown off by the torpedo would smash the shield on impact allowing the plasma to incinerate the target anyway.

Where did you get that from? (I'm not trying to be condescending, I'm actually curious.)

According to Memory Alpha, metaphasic shields are "capable of withstanding the pressure, radiation and energy of a star's corona." Nothing about subspace distortions. Since that's basically what the show said, that's accurate. MemAlpha: Metaphasic Shields.

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Report this Nov. 12 2007, 3:11 am

Quote (Venicius @ Nov. 06 2007, 12:51 pm)
I looked up metaphasic shielding. All it does is partly put an object in subspace, and given how a plasma torpedo traveling at high warp would need a warp shield, I would think the intense subspace distortion being thrown off by the torpedo would smash the shield on impact allowing the plasma to incinerate the target anyway.

If the subspace barrier theory is true, then subspace warheads would be MORE effective. But then, if the Federation could stop using such vunerable technologies.....
My Lord, they'd be unstoppable. Even the vaulted Borg would learn to cower in fear. But, it would take truely ruthless tyrant to wield that kind of power.....

So, what is your next step, Venicius (in your mad scheme to conquer the Galaxy).

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Report this Nov. 14 2007, 5:47 pm

What if the plasma liquified atomic state was regulated in some way to force the trejectory of the energy through the ground, then again a KM is a long way through rock and that type of plasma regulation may not be possible for them, meaning brut energy discharge was required.  Tank rounds work this way dont they?

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Report this Nov. 16 2007, 8:20 pm

Quote (WishfireAlpha @ Nov. 10 2007, 10:12 pm)
Quote (Venicius @ Nov. 06 2007, 9:51 am)
I looked up metaphasic shielding. All it does is partly put an object in subspace, and given how a plasma torpedo traveling at high warp would need a warp shield, I would think the intense subspace distortion being thrown off by the torpedo would smash the shield on impact allowing the plasma to incinerate the target anyway.

Where did you get that from? (I'm not trying to be condescending, I'm actually curious.)

According to Memory Alpha, metaphasic shields are "capable of withstanding the pressure, radiation and energy of a star's corona." Nothing about subspace distortions. Since that's basically what the show said, that's accurate. MemAlpha: Metaphasic Shields.

I looked it up in the star trek encyclopedia.

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Report this Dec. 07 2007, 3:28 pm

Putting part of the sheild into subspace would make that part of the shield untouchable by anything in real space.  If this industructable component was used as a base to support the part of the sheild in real space then the subspace component would protect the real space shield and the real space component would protect the ship.
Like splitting the sheild into two multiphasic layers that protect one another to make a shield stronger than the initial combined stregnth of the two on their own, but done with real space and subspace.

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