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Inteligent Desing do you belive it

Jereath

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Report this Jul. 08 2007, 9:20 pm

I know I do
but what's your opinion

GrandLunar2007

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Report this Jul. 08 2007, 11:05 pm

I don't.
It's not a scientific, or testable theory. It also disregards what is known about nature already. We don't need to include an unknown designer with implausible orgins to explain what just as easily can occur on it's own.
It also downgrades the need for searching for answers. It's no different than ancients saying that Zeus creates lightning.

K_tigress

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 12:32 am

Yeah I do. Everything has a path and a direction. But you can't always know , or see it or read it in some book, sometimes you have to judge for your self. We have to remember if you really want to be a good scientist or a scientist wantabe we have to remember that every thing a human says, is all theory and speculation.

Did any one get to look at a bacteria up really close. Its really amazing not to mention amusing. There was once this show I think on the Discovery channel a long time ago. They were showing bacteria up really close. So close you could see all the different parts and functions est. It was just wow, it was a simple bacteria but the thing looked like a little mechanical machine. You would have to see the thing your self and the way it moved up really close. No, it wasn't a nanobot, it was an actual up close bac.

international_space_agenc
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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 1:47 am

YES!

Tannagra

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 2:36 am

Quote (GrandLunar2007 @ July 08 2007, 11:05 pm)
I don't.
It's not a scientific, or testable theory. It also disregards what is known about nature already. We don't need to include an unknown designer with implausible orgins to explain what just as easily can occur on it's own.
It also downgrades the need for searching for answers. It's no different than ancients saying that Zeus creates lightning.

Well said GL.

Also, for all those postulating ID, can you explain how the 'Creator' came into existence? or doesnt he/she/it need an explanation, and if so why does the universe.

:logical:

Rap_Ture

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 2:39 am

Yes and why is it always labelled intelligent design...?:grr:

Tannagra

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 2:41 am

Quote (Ture @ July 09 2007, 2:39 am)
Yes and why is it always labelled intelligent design...?:grr:

Maybe its some kind of Oxymoron?

:logical:

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 2:48 am

Quote (Tannagra @ July 08 2007, 3:36 am)
Quote (GrandLunar2007 @ July 08 2007, 11:05 pm)
I don't.
It's not a scientific, or testable theory. It also disregards what is known about nature already. We don't need to include an unknown designer with implausible orgins to explain what just as easily can occur on it's own.
It also downgrades the need for searching for answers. It's no different than ancients saying that Zeus creates lightning.

Well said GL.

Also, for all those postulating ID, can you explain how the 'Creator' came into existence? or doesnt he/she/it need an explanation, and if so why does the universe.

:logical:

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Rap_Ture

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 2:50 am

Quote (Tannagra @ July 09 2007, 2:41 am)
Quote (Ture @ July 09 2007, 2:39 am)
Yes and why is it always labelled intelligent design...?:grr:

Maybe its some kind of Oxymoron?

:logical:

It could be..? :D

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 3:12 am

Quote (Ture @ July 08 2007, 3:50 am)
Quote (Tannagra @ July 09 2007, 2:41 am)
Quote (Ture @ July 09 2007, 2:39 am)
Yes and why is it always labelled intelligent design...?:grr:

Maybe its some kind of Oxymoron?

:logical:

It could be..? :D

Who? You mean you!

GrandLunar2007

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 8:44 am

Quote (Tannagra @ July 09 2007, 2:36 am)
Quote (GrandLunar2007 @ July 08 2007, 11:05 pm)
I don't.
It's not a scientific, or testable theory. It also disregards what is known about nature already. We don't need to include an unknown designer with implausible orgins to explain what just as easily can occur on it's own.
It also downgrades the need for searching for answers. It's no different than ancients saying that Zeus creates lightning.

Well said GL.

Also, for all those postulating ID, can you explain how the 'Creator' came into existence? or doesnt he/she/it need an explanation, and if so why does the universe.

:logical:

Thank you.  :cool:

I read of ID that it's basically Creationism, with the name "god" removed. The rest remains the same, more or less.

vgrbabe

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 8:56 am

I don't. Show me proof and I might believe in it. I know evolution is the correct answer because we have actual facts and artifacts that you can see and touch.

And there is nothing intelligent about intelligent design. Look at the human body, it is put together in the most back@$$wards way that could only come from evolution.

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 12:21 pm

Quote (Jereath @ July 07 2007, 10:20 pm)
I know I do
but what's your opinion

No!! It nothing more than a poor attempted to try to make bibical creation myth seem scientific.. :cool:

It just creationism repackage...

Kirky333

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 2:16 pm

Quote (lanceromega @ July 09 2007, 5:21 pm)
Quote (Jereath @ July 07 2007, 10:20 pm)
I know I do
but what's your opinion

No!! It nothing more than a poor attempted to try to make bibical creation myth seem scientific.. :cool:

It just creationism repackage...

I agree with lanceromega...

Intelligent design is based on conjecture and therefore isn't science.

It's not a question of belief. You can't choose to believe of disbelieve in gravity, it's a fact. The same with evolution.  :logical:

Technically it could be true, I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just saying it's not science.

Tannagra

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Report this Jul. 09 2007, 2:36 pm

Quote (international_space_agency @ July 09 2007, 2:48 am)
Quote (Tannagra @ July 08 2007, 3:36 am)
Quote (GrandLunar2007 @ July 08 2007, 11:05 pm)
I don't.
It's not a scientific, or testable theory. It also disregards what is known about nature already. We don't need to include an unknown designer with implausible orgins to explain what just as easily can occur on it's own.
It also downgrades the need for searching for answers. It's no different than ancients saying that Zeus creates lightning.

Well said GL.

Also, for all those postulating ID, can you explain how the 'Creator' came into existence? or doesnt he/she/it need an explanation, and if so why does the universe.

:logical:

Alpha & Omega!
Beginning & End!

Greek/Roman Symbol: Snake Eating Tail or Figure 8
Egyptian Symbol: ?Onch

I'm sure you were trying to be very eloquent there, but really however you embroider it, 'God' is just primitive man's reason for things being like they are.

Also, if you believe in a God Creator, then what about Zeus, Jupiter, Odin, Ra and the others, theyre just as real as the Christian God.

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