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Do you believe there is life on other planets?

titanicwreck

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Report this Mar. 11 2007, 2:54 pm

Do you think there are other worlds in the universe, that have intelligent lifeforms capible of space flight- or is humanity the only intelligent lifeform in the universe?
Is earth the only world with any form of life?

I think other worlds know about us- and alien astronauts have visited earth-but they have a prime directive, and have not made thier presense known to all of humanity- We are still waring with ourselves over land and religion- no doubt humanity is seen as too hostile to welcome into any real Federation of planets....

Tannagra

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Report this Mar. 11 2007, 2:56 pm

Quote (titanicwreck @ Mar. 11 2007, 2:54 pm)
Do you think there are other worlds in the universe, that have intelligent lifeforms capible of space flight- or is humanity the only intelligent lifeform in the universe?
Is earth the only world with any form of life?

I think other worlds know about us- and alien astronauts have visited earth-but they have a prime directive, and have not made thier presense known to all of humanity- We are still waring with ourselves over land and religion- no doubt humanity is seen as too hostile to welcome into any real Federation of planets....

In short, Yes other Planets have intelligent life. Some planets will support intelligent life which have developed space flight.

In our Galaxy alone there is at least 400billion, possibly as high as 800billion, star systems.

:logical:

HisRoyalHighnessTheKing

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Report this Mar. 16 2007, 3:26 am

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Do you believe there is life on other planets?


Yes.

Hopefully they will be wise and stay far away from this beautiful planet and it's piss-poor human population.

ssmukhi

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Report this Mar. 16 2007, 4:00 am

It's possible. I won't discount it. It would be a huge waste of the universe if we were it's only living inhabitants.

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Report this Mar. 16 2007, 11:35 am

Yes, I do believe that there COULD be life on other planets or worlds. However, the possibility of INTELLIGENT life existing is perhaps very remote. So far, based on our knowledge, the universe has shown us that its pretty much a barren, isolated, and unbelievingly lonely place. And if there are intelligent lifeforms out there, I seriously doubt that they will look like us, that is, bi-pedal humanoid aliens like in Star Trek or most of the Hollywood sci-fi flicks out there. Different planets with different environments and climates will breed entirely different lifeforms. You only need to look at our own planet to have that fact verified, particularly where the sea creature lifeforms are concerned. I recommend checking out photos of these sea creatures at your local book store or better yet, check out the following link and you'll be quite amaze at how bizarre some of these lifeforms appearances:

http://www.teachers.ash.org.au/jmresources/deep/creatures.html

Plus, the possibility of life existing elsewhere in the universe will not be dependent of our strong innate belief in such a prospect, either they exist or they don't. If it's the latter, then its our obligation to expand our seeds of life throughout the universe and by thriving on different planets, we will eventually perhaps BECOME the aliens! ;)

Tannagra

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Report this Mar. 16 2007, 11:40 am

Quote (Whitestar7 @ Mar. 16 2007, 11:35 am)
Yes, I do believe that there COULD be life on other planets or worlds. However, the possibility of INTELLIGENT life existing is perhaps very remote. So far, based on our knowledge, the universe has shown us that its pretty much a barren, isolated, and unbelievingly lonely place. And if there are intelligent lifeforms out there, I seriously doubt that they will look like us, that is, bi-pedal humanoid aliens like in Star Trek or most of the Hollywood sci-fi flicks out there. Different planets with different environments and climates will breed entirely different lifeforms. You only need to look at our own planet to have that fact verified, particularly where the sea creature lifeforms are concerned. I recommend checking out photos of these sea creatures at your local book store or better yet, check out the following link and you'll be quite amaze at how bizarre some of these lifeforms appearances:

http://www.teachers.ash.org.au/jmresources/deep/creatures.html

Plus, the possibility of life existing elsewhere in the universe will not be dependent of our strong innate belief in such a prospect, either they exist or they don't. If it's the latter, then its our obligation to expand our seeds of life throughout the universe and by thriving on different planets, we will eventually perhaps BECOME the aliens! ;)

Whitestar, i know your an intelligent chap so how can you even remotely think that there may not be any intelligent life on other planets?

How do you come by this snippet?

I agree with you that it will look nothing like us, but to say that its extremely remote is just a tad daft really.

Whitestar7

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Report this Mar. 16 2007, 12:37 pm

Quote (Tannagra @ Mar. 15 2007, 12:40 pm)
Quote (Whitestar7 @ Mar. 16 2007, 11:35 am)
Yes, I do believe that there COULD be life on other planets or worlds. However, the possibility of INTELLIGENT life existing is perhaps very remote. So far, based on our knowledge, the universe has shown us that its pretty much a barren, isolated, and unbelievingly lonely place. And if there are intelligent lifeforms out there, I seriously doubt that they will look like us, that is, bi-pedal humanoid aliens like in Star Trek or most of the Hollywood sci-fi flicks out there. Different planets with different environments and climates will breed entirely different lifeforms. You only need to look at our own planet to have that fact verified, particularly where the sea creature lifeforms are concerned. I recommend checking out photos of these sea creatures at your local book store or better yet, check out the following link and you'll be quite amaze at how bizarre some of these lifeforms appearances:

http://www.teachers.ash.org.au/jmresources/deep/creatures.html

Plus, the possibility of life existing elsewhere in the universe will not be dependent of our strong innate belief in such a prospect, either they exist or they don't. If it's the latter, then its our obligation to expand our seeds of life throughout the universe and by thriving on different planets, we will eventually perhaps BECOME the aliens! ;)

Whitestar, i know your an intelligent chap so how can you even remotely think that there may not be any intelligent life on other planets?

How do you come by this snippet?

I agree with you that it will look nothing like us, but to say that its extremely remote is just a tad daft really.

Well, I said that it was a remote chance, but not an impossible one. There is a part of me that believes in the possibility of other intelligent lifeforms out there, but consider this: the conditions needed for life or at least complex life to evolve are rare or even unique to Earth. Although complex life may evolve through other mechanisms than those found specifically here on Earth, the fact that in the extremely long history of life on the Earth, only one species has developed a civilization to the point of being capable of space flight and radio technology, which seems to lend more credence to the idea of technologically advanced civilization being a rare commodity in the universe.

Another possibility is that life can and does arise elsewhere, but events such as ice ages, impact events, or other catastrophes prevent complex life forms from evolving.

There is also the likeihood that technological civilizations may usually or invariably destroy themselves before or shortly after developing radio or space flight technology. Possible means of annihilation include nuclear war, biological warfare or accidental contamination, nanotechnological catastrophe, or a Malthusian catastrophe after the deterioration of a planet's ecosphere.

And there is the other possibility is that intelligent species beyond a certain point of technological capability will destroy other intelligence as it appears.

And lastly, there is a possibility that we are perhaps the very first intelligent lifeforms in the universe and eventually, many different kinds of intelligent life in the universe will soon follow suit. So, while I'm open to the prospect of other intelligent life in the universe, my cynical side thinks differently. However, if it makes you feel any better, I seriously hope I'm wrong, I have been before! :)

Tannagra

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Report this Mar. 16 2007, 12:45 pm

Well i'll put it like this, show me irrefutable proof that life doesnt exist and i'll happily agree with it, until then intelligent life does exist on other planets. Im not into religion, so this isnt faith based, its based on the mathematical certainty due to the near infinite numbers involved.

:logical:

Whitestar7

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Report this Mar. 16 2007, 1:20 pm

Quote (Tannagra @ Mar. 15 2007, 1:45 pm)
Well i'll put it like this, show me irrefutable proof that life doesnt exist and i'll happily agree with it, until then intelligent life does exist on other planets. Im not into religion, so this isnt faith based, its based on the mathematical certainty due to the near infinite numbers involved.

:logical:

And for what's its worth, I sincerely hope you're right. :)

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Report this Mar. 17 2007, 8:28 pm

Quote (Tannagra @ Mar. 11 2007, 4:56 pm)
In our Galaxy alone there is at least 400billion, possibly as high as 800billion, star systems.

Actually, it's more like 200-400 billion stars, depending how you count it. I believe 200 is the "official" count. Not every one of them has planets.
But there are galaxies out there that have 50 times more stars than our galaxy. And who knows, maybe even more.

Anyway, it's mathematically impossible that there's no life out there. And everything you can find on Earth is out there, water, oxygen etc that makes life here on Earth possible. And who is to say our way of life is the only one. Some lifeforms may not need anything we need to exist. For example, oxygen was a polutant when it first appeared on this planet, but when there was more and more of it, different lifeforms adapted to it.

voyagerdude1million7

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Report this Mar. 17 2007, 8:35 pm

yes i do.

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Report this Mar. 18 2007, 11:09 pm

Quote (DarthJester @ Mar. 18 2007, 8:28 am)
Anyway, it's mathematically impossible that there's no life out there. And everything you can find on Earth is out there, water, oxygen etc that makes life here on Earth possible. And who is to say our way of life is the only one. Some lifeforms may not need anything we need to exist. For example, oxygen was a polutant when it first appeared on this planet, but when there was more and more of it, different lifeforms adapted to it.

So you mean if we do have a nuclear war, 100 million years from now a lifeform would have evolved that breathes fallout?

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Report this Mar. 19 2007, 2:35 am

Yes, however the odds that it's going to be like Star Trek; With a new species every system or so, are about zero.  We'll probably find life every few systems, and intelligent life a handful of times in the entire galaxy

Remember that because we think of ourselves as intelligent (though, perhaps without much ground), we seem to think of inteligence as the inevitable consiquence of evolution.  Fact is, inteligence doesn't have alot of survival value.  Bacteria do very well without inteligence and will survive long after our inteligence wipes us out in a nuclear war

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Report this Mar. 19 2007, 7:03 am

The answer is tribbles! Triblles will dominate the universe! :laugh:

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Report this Mar. 19 2007, 12:16 pm

Quote (ssmukhi @ Mar. 19 2007, 1:09 am)
Quote (DarthJester @ Mar. 18 2007, 8:28 am)
Anyway, it's mathematically impossible that there's no life out there. And everything you can find on Earth is out there, water, oxygen etc that makes life here on Earth possible. And who is to say our way of life is the only one. Some lifeforms may not need anything we need to exist. For example, oxygen was a polutant when it first appeared on this planet, but when there was more and more of it, different lifeforms adapted to it.

So you mean if we do have a nuclear war, 100 million years from now a lifeform would have evolved that breathes fallout?

Simply, no.
Besides, fallout is going to be gone in 50-100 years, there's no time or need to adapt to it.

Quote (SLagonia @ Mar. 19 2007, 4:35 am)
Yes, however the odds that it's going to be like Star Trek; With a new species every system or so, are about zero.

Think about how many different lifeforms you can find on this planet...

We really don't know how nature works with these things. Are all the species a result of a specific evolution that took place on a single planet, having all the species unique for one planet or is there a "big plan" that all planets follow.

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