CaptainJaneway74656 GROUP: Members POSTS: 64  |
Report this
Apr. 27 2007, 11:12 am
I'm not sure what would happen if First Contact happened in this century, however if it did I think that the best people to make First Contact would be us Trekkies, the rest of the world could misconstrue it as an attatck or some other fragment of their paranoid imagination. I always hope that an alien species makes First Contact with Earth in this century, I like to imagine that NASA shall change into Starfleet, but thats just me ¿  |
guideX GROUP: Members POSTS: 2402 |
Report this
Apr. 27 2007, 4:50 pm
I have no proof but I've heard that it's every American's duity to kill alien life immediatly, or call some government agency to do so, as they may be a threat
Terrible huh
|
Garak_is_my_hero GROUP: Members POSTS: 978 |
Report this
Apr. 27 2007, 6:28 pm
No we are not ready, we can't even stop blowing ourselves up let alone be responsible enough to make first contact. It is human nature to fear what we do not know. We would try to capture the alien and then examine it to death probably.  |
kirkkid7 GROUP: Members POSTS: 10164 |
Report this
Apr. 27 2007, 6:32 pm
| Quote (MPVorkosigan @ Mar. 04 2007, 12:30 pm) | | Quote (Tannagra @ Mar. 04 2007, 4:43 am) | | And it would definitely throw a spanner in the works where some religion is concerned, specifically the 'man was created in god's image' thing. |
Oh, you know it. Somebody, somewhere, would blow a gasket. Christian Fundamentalist, Islamic, Buddhist, South'n Babtist... if it's anything that looks human coming out of a ship, no matter where it lands but especially in the US, somebody is going to wig.
If you've noticed, though, in the last twenty years, we've seen a lot of little gray aliens on tv and in film. With the exception of ID4, we've generally been told that these are good guys, don't be afraid. I've wondered for some time if we're being indoctrinated.
V. The aliens look like us, but are really nasty reptilians.
Stargate. The aliens look like us, but are really nasty little snake critters. The good guy aliens are little gray dudes with big eyes and the names of Norse gods, which I thought was weird...
X-Files. Some of the aliens are good, some are bad, there's a war going on between them and we're in the middle...
Not meaning to get my pair of noids up, but how likely is all this to be true?
Read Genesis. If you think of the creation of man in scientific terms, how likely is it that we are the result of a controlled genetic engineering experiment, released into the wild?
Consider. A ship lands here. A protohuman male is captured. Biopsy samples are taken. A clone is produced, modified to accelerate the evolutionary process. The end result is Cro-Magnon man. Adam.
According to the Apocrypha, Adam's first mate was Lilith, a female demon, who got bored with him and rose into the air. Isn't it equally likely that Lilith was part of the research team, who compromised the results because she was fascinated by her new lab monkey?
After Lilith was reassigned, the team created a female clone, Eve. Once mature, they released the pair into a controlled environment with but one caveat: don't touch the tree in the middle of the dome.
With a little nudging from another crewmember, they did just that. The biochemical structure of the fruit changed the clones, activated neural clusters that had been shut down, and the clones developed full awareness. This ruins the experiment.
The clones are cast out. They are now at least endowed with the knowledge they would have had if they had been left alone. They set up house, have kids. The elder kills the younger.
Meanwhile, the aliens have been observing all this... and are probably still observing it.
Miles |
wow. i never thought of it that way. |
Captan_jean_luc_picard GROUP: Members POSTS: 1060 |
Report this
May. 03 2007, 12:08 am
Earth is not ready for First contact. We are at war with ourselves. We do not think as one unit. we are still violent, erational.... Wait another 50 years and ask me again...
|
Dr_Phlox05 GROUP: Members POSTS: 686 |
Report this
May. 20 2007, 11:34 am
| Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard @ May 03 2007, 12:08 am) | | Earth is not ready for First contact. We are at war with ourselves. We do not think as one unit. we are still violent, erational.... Wait another 50 years and ask me again... |
50 years? More like a couple hundred. Look at our history. |
Tannagra GROUP: Members POSTS: 15354 |
Report this
May. 20 2007, 11:35 am
| Quote (Dr_Phlox05 @ May 20 2007, 11:34 am) | | Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard @ May 03 2007, 12:08 am) | | Earth is not ready for First contact. ?We are at war with ourselves. ?We do not think as one unit. ?we are still violent, erational.... Wait another 50 years and ask me again... |
50 years? More like a couple hundred. Look at our history. |
200Years absolute minimum i would say. |
Zantrix GROUP: Members POSTS: 1580 |
Report this
May. 20 2007, 11:47 am
I think we are ready. I think that contact with aliens would end the stupid little fueds we have with our fellow countries.
If the aliens come to be good and be our friends then we would learn that by worknig together we could acheive what they have.
If they come to try and kill us all we would unite to defend our planet.
Of course there would be those that hated and feared them and probably tried to kill them. But on a whole I have a positive look on it!
I wonder what they'll look like. Would they be similar to us? Or would they be so different that we cannot even imagine what they would be like?
|
|
Tannagra GROUP: Members POSTS: 15354 |
Report this
May. 20 2007, 11:49 am
| Quote (Zantrix @ May 20 2007, 11:47 am) | I think we are ready. I think that contact with aliens would end the stupid little fueds we have with our fellow countries.
If the aliens come to be good and be our friends then we would learn that by worknig together we could acheive what they have.
If they come to try and kill us all we would unite to defend our planet.
Of course there would be those that hated and feared them and probably tried to kill them. But on a whole I have a positive look on it!
I wonder what they'll look like. Would they be similar to us? Or would they be so different that we cannot even imagine what they would be like? |
I think thats much too optimistic really. Youre also forgetting the religious angle here too. |
|
Zantrix GROUP: Members POSTS: 1580 |
Report this
May. 20 2007, 11:57 am
| Quote (Tannagra @ May 20 2007, 11:49 am) | | Quote (Zantrix @ May 20 2007, 11:47 am) | I think we are ready. I think that contact with aliens would end the stupid little fueds we have with our fellow countries.
If the aliens come to be good and be our friends then we would learn that by worknig together we could acheive what they have.
If they come to try and kill us all we would unite to defend our planet.
Of course there would be those that hated and feared them and probably tried to kill them. But on a whole I have a positive look on it!
I wonder what they'll look like. Would they be similar to us? Or would they be so different that we cannot even imagine what they would be like? |
I think thats much too optimistic really. Youre also forgetting the religious angle here too. |
Maybe we'd just say - hey... religions must be wrong! Lets all unite and throw away religions altogether!  Maybe I am been too optimistic. Who knows? I wonder if we'll ever find out? Personally I'd be really excited if we made first contact! Anyone here that wouldn't be? |
|
Tannagra GROUP: Members POSTS: 15354 |
Report this
May. 20 2007, 12:02 pm
| Quote (Zantrix @ May 20 2007, 11:57 am) | | Quote (Tannagra @ May 20 2007, 11:49 am) | | Quote (Zantrix @ May 20 2007, 11:47 am) | I think we are ready. I think that contact with aliens would end the stupid little fueds we have with our fellow countries.
If the aliens come to be good and be our friends then we would learn that by worknig together we could acheive what they have.
If they come to try and kill us all we would unite to defend our planet.
Of course there would be those that hated and feared them and probably tried to kill them. But on a whole I have a positive look on it!
I wonder what they'll look like. Would they be similar to us? Or would they be so different that we cannot even imagine what they would be like? |
I think thats much too optimistic really. Youre also forgetting the religious angle here too. |
Maybe we'd just say - hey... religions must be wrong! Lets all unite and throw away religions altogether! ¿
Maybe I am been too optimistic. Who knows? I wonder if we'll ever find out?
Personally I'd be really excited if we made first contact! Anyone here that wouldn't be? |
Zantrix We still discriminate against people who have a different skin colour or who pray to a different god. |
international_space_agenc
y GROUP: Members POSTS: 831 |
Report this
May. 20 2007, 8:50 pm
Official Contact is likely to happen when Humanity has established a base on Luna or Mars. Any advanced alien space travelers would likely do this, as the human personnel on these space bases would be more predisposed to react in a more peaceful manner, and with more understanding. (Not to say that the Humans on these facilities would be soiling their pants if a real alien ship landed on the landing zone, and asked to come in and say hi!  Also, such contact could be micro-managed and the main populations on Earth could be told when and if needed or required.  |
PrimalNarcisissm GROUP: Members POSTS: 30 |
Report this
May. 24 2007, 3:40 pm
| Quote (international_space_agency @ May 20 2007, 8:50 pm) | Official Contact is likely to happen when Humanity has established a base on Luna or Mars.
Any advanced alien space travelers would likely do this, as the human personnel on these space bases would be more predisposed to react in a more peaceful manner, and with more understanding. (Not to say that the Humans on these facilities would be soiling their pants if a real alien ship landed on the landing zone, and asked to come in and say hi!
Also, such contact could be micro-managed and the main populations on Earth could be told when and if needed or required.
|
You have some points there. It is strategicly unsound to land a ship in an alienenvrioment and culture unless you are going to attack it of course(but then again you'd probably want to bomb them from your ship). Therefor it would as you say more logical to conduct a peaceful first contact beyond the reach of the majority of the aliens and their potential weaponary. Considering that i don't think first contact is very likely on earth. Back to the topic... I think that the world is as ready for it as ever. I don't think we will start living in perfect harmony ever and it's not likely that any of the aliens we might possibly encounter does either. But the observation that the great masses will be threaten by the unknown is sound. But i doubt that would change alot even if we were in contact with alot of species and actively interacted whith them. I mean if we knew alot of species and suddenly an unkown race deployed on the surface of earth. Even in Star Trek, first contact is treated with great precaution (shields are raised etc). I think the speculations about the army killing the aliens on sight are very doubtful. Sure an alien is a potential threat but risking an armed conflict whith a technologicaly superior race is not an adviceable first precaution to alien life. |
|
PrimalNarcisissm GROUP: Members POSTS: 30 |
Report this
May. 24 2007, 5:58 pm
A parallel question to the topic: If an alien spaceship would land were would it land? A lot of you seem to take for granted that it will land somewhere in the USA, preferebly in downtown new york.
I think they would either go for the most technologicaly advanced place, which could be hard to determine from outerspace. Perhaps they'd go for the one with the most production, polutions and emissions of various sorts could be seen as a sign of that. In that case i rhink they would land somewhere in asia, most likely china. Another way of determine technological advancement could be the use of nuclear technology. Even in this case polution could be considered a sign. Then Russia might be favored or Ukraine etc.
It could perhaps be measured in effective propulsion. The amount of cars vs the emissions and the efficiency of the highways etc. I think Germany might win this one.
Population could definetly be a factor when they decide to land. I don't remember what city is the mist densely populated but i'm guessing they'd set down some where in Asia if they wanted a high population count. If they wanted a secluded area i dont know perhaps some where in Russia.
Enviromental aspects. Some of earths enviroments might be inhospitable to them. The only significantly populated areas in which first contact could be made where the enviroment could be considered extreme are (im guessing) Greenland, Alaska, Siberia and some places in sahara. Perhaps Nevada qualifies?
Alltogether, everyting added up, i guess New York is not such a bad guess. Perhaps Detroit or Montreal would suffice for our alien visitors. Tokyo also seems like a place fairly likely
What do you think?
|
|
international_space_agenc
y GROUP: Members POSTS: 831 |
Report this
May. 25 2007, 11:39 am
| Quote (PrimalNarcisissm @ May 24 2007, 5:58 pm) | A parallel question to the topic: If an alien spaceship would land were would it land? A lot of you seem to take for granted that it will land somewhere in the USA, preferebly in downtown new york.
I think they would either go for the most technologicaly advanced place, which could be hard to determine from outerspace. Perhaps they'd go for the one with the most production, polutions and emissions of various sorts could be seen as a sign of that. In that case i rhink they would land somewhere in asia, most likely china. Another way of determine technological advancement could be the use of nuclear technology. Even in this case polution could be considered a sign. Then Russia might be favored or Ukraine etc.
It could perhaps be measured in effective propulsion. The amount of cars vs the emissions and the efficiency of the highways etc. I think Germany might win this one.
Population could definetly be a factor when they decide to land. I don't remember what city is the mist densely populated but i'm guessing they'd set down some where in Asia if they wanted a high population count. If they wanted a secluded area i dont know perhaps some where in Russia.
Enviromental aspects. Some of earths enviroments might be inhospitable to them. The only significantly populated areas in which first contact could be made where the enviroment could be considered extreme are (im guessing) Greenland, Alaska, Siberia and some places in sahara. Perhaps Nevada qualifies?
Alltogether, everyting added up, i guess New York is not such a bad guess. Perhaps Detroit or Montreal would suffice for our alien visitors. Tokyo also seems like a place fairly likely
What do you think? |
A location that is near a major technology center that presents advance knowledge and technology would likely be good candidates for any alien vistors, if they had good intentions. If bad intentions, it would be remote and away from technology centers. Also, our oceans are a massive cover for E.T. operations, as it is out of sight, out of sound, and has vast expances that humans do not go. |
![Star Trek Into Darkness Enterprise Falling Movie Poster [11x17]](http://shop.startrek.com/img/product/resized/672/00452345-948672_catl_125.jpg?k=eda57382&pid=452345&s=catl&sn=startrek "Star Trek Into Darkness Enterprise Falling Movie Poster [11x17]")
